The only reason Turkey is useful to NATO is the Bosporus strait(but we saw how useful that was, when they let Russian ships willy nilly until they closed it days after the war began). Frankly? They should have been kicked when they invaded Cyprus, and double kicked during the F-35 and S400 fiasco. Which Trump successfully kicked them out of the F-35 program.
I will have to respectfully disagree on the f-35. It is a more open program, using different costing method(full life cycle) and the technology on that plane is astounding. See through the fuselage, stealth, high speed with load(while other planes can't achieve the same speed with loads). Sure there are problems, and there were many more on many planes. Including the lawn dart.... Yep, the venerable F-16.
It had issues upon issues upon issues, until it became the incredible weapon we see today. The f-35 seems to be following that footstep. Not even the f-22 seems to have the same sensor suite the F-35 has.
Turkey is quite butthurt over it, not only due to loss of revenue from manufacturing some parts, but from all the technology they lost.
Give the f-35 a chance, it will surprise you like the f-16.
If we abandoned something overpriced and with many issues, the F-16 would have been stopped at less than 50 models made. Yet, it is over 4,000. The F-16 had massive issues. One of the best, the joystick did not move, it used force sensing. The pilots did not like it, to the point they would break the joystick of the F--16 away with the force applied. The solution was to allow a small lee-way to confuse the brain into thinking it is moving.
The only reason Turkey is useful to NATO is the Bosporus strait(but we saw how useful that was, when they let Russian ships willy nilly until they closed it days after the war began). Frankly? They should have been kicked when they invaded Cyprus, and double kicked during the F-35 and S400 fiasco. Which Trump successfully kicked them out of the F-35 program.
The occupation of Cyprus, they were in the right in the invasion itself.
The F-35 program is a disaster and I wish Poland never touched it.
I will have to respectfully disagree on the f-35. It is a more open program, using different costing method(full life cycle) and the technology on that plane is astounding. See through the fuselage, stealth, high speed with load(while other planes can't achieve the same speed with loads). Sure there are problems, and there were many more on many planes. Including the lawn dart.... Yep, the venerable F-16.
It had issues upon issues upon issues, until it became the incredible weapon we see today. The f-35 seems to be following that footstep. Not even the f-22 seems to have the same sensor suite the F-35 has.
Turkey is quite butthurt over it, not only due to loss of revenue from manufacturing some parts, but from all the technology they lost.
Give the f-35 a chance, it will surprise you like the f-16.
Technology that doesnt work - is not better than no technology at all. -Abe lincoln.
But if we design an overpriced airborne tesla, who cares if theres a 50 inch iPad display, if its a shitty car to start.
If we abandoned something overpriced and with many issues, the F-16 would have been stopped at less than 50 models made. Yet, it is over 4,000. The F-16 had massive issues. One of the best, the joystick did not move, it used force sensing. The pilots did not like it, to the point they would break the joystick of the F--16 away with the force applied. The solution was to allow a small lee-way to confuse the brain into thinking it is moving.
And pilots are loving the plane
http://milforum.net/showthread.php/50077-Forsvaret-kjøper-F-35-kampfly-fra-Lockheed-Martin/page110?p=1235285&viewfull=1#post1235285
https://theaviationist.com/2019/04/02/heres-what-three-italian-f-35-instructor-pilots-with-62nd-fs-have-to-say-about-their-first-red-flag-with-the-lightning-ii/
https://theaviationist.com/2017/05/31/red-flag-memories-combat-pilot-explains-how-rf-has-evolved-and-why-the-f-35-is-a-real-game-changer-in-future-wars/
https://theaviationist.com/2019/06/23/dutch-f-35s-perform-9000-km-long-surprise-attack-on-dutch-range-as-part-of-a-rapid-reaction-test/