I mean having a value doesn't do anything if it doesn't make a palpable effect on reality.
This is kind of a tautology, but I see your point. "Values" which are are defined by ones external circumstances aren't of consequence. To expand on your example slightly, an incel that adopts/professes the traditional value of "No sex outside wedlock" without attempting anything that might move them toward marriage is merely dressing themselves in an irrelevant ideological robe.
[...] Most [trads] only focus on the small picture and have no real plan, or even philosophical understanding, of the big web that creates the world they are trying to reject. [...] Its not the ideology that fails, its the people who adopt it being unable to actually commit to it. [...] "trads" cannot let go of the trappings of society enough to actually revolutionize it.
I think these theses are generally correct. Without any attempt to work with others and either take over the existing, broken system, or to build a parallel system with which to replace it, traditionalism cannot succeed. And particularly if they intend to build a parallel system, they have to be willing to sacrifice (some of) the comforts of the existing society in order to achieve their goals.
This is kind of a tautology, but I see your point. "Values" which are are defined by ones external circumstances aren't of consequence. To expand on your example slightly, an incel that adopts/professes the traditional value of "No sex outside wedlock" without attempting anything that might move them toward marriage is merely dressing themselves in an irrelevant ideological robe.
I think these theses are generally correct. Without any attempt to work with others and either take over the existing, broken system, or to build a parallel system with which to replace it, traditionalism cannot succeed. And particularly if they intend to build a parallel system, they have to be willing to sacrifice (some of) the comforts of the existing society in order to achieve their goals.