I ran out of danged damn characters. Part deus ahead-
"recent', this is a two month old study that still hasnt been peer reviewed LMAO. THIS GUY is a MEDICAL "EXPERT" HAHAHAHAHAHA
Currently, limited evidence concerning the protection afforded by vaccination against reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 is available
Among Kentucky residents infec
Among Kentucky residents infected with SARS-CoV-2 in 2020, vaccination status of those reinfected during May–June 2021 was compared with that of residents who were not reinfected. In this case-control study, being unvaccinated was associated with 2.34 times the odds of reinfection compared with being fully vaccinated.
aka they only looked at one state. and it says among those infected, but we wont have a list of EVERYONE INFECTED in 2020. we would also only likely be looking at THE WORST CASES because those who had few or no symptoms for the first wave WOULDNA have been tested. so the people who were in 2020 skewed to the weaker side towards coronavirus.
and there were only 246 case patients, and 400 something controls. 600 people is NOT enough to say theres a countrywide 2.34 chance to get reinfected by corona vs vacced people.
FALSE SCIENCE
cumented, but the scientific understanding of natural infection-derived immunity is still emerging (5). The duration of immunity resulting from natural infection, although not well understood, is suspected to persist for ≥90 days in most persons.** The emergence of new variants might affect the duration of infection-acquired immunity, and laboratory studies have shown that sera from previously infected persons might offer weak or inconsistent responses against several variants of concern (2,6). For example, a recent laboratory study found that sera collected from previously infected persons before they were vaccinated provided a relatively weaker, and in some cases absent, neutralization response to the B.1.351 (Beta) variant when compared with the original Wuhan-Hu-1 strain (1).
I like how this niggar is using a study from months before the israeli studies of antibodies came out to make it seem like it isnt a good study
I told Joe that even in the study from Israel, the authors concluded with the recommendation that people who had recovered from Covid still get a vaccine.
And there it is. LITERLLY in the next line hes acting like thise months old study proves the israeli one wrong. this guy should be disbarred from the medical profession for this chincanery.
And when Joe pushed hard on the risk of myocarditis in kids who receive the vaccine, especially young boys, I countered back equally hard that the risk of myocarditis has been shown to be much higher for infected children under 16 years old compared to their uninfected peers.
0- DOUBT
ok so hes being a fucking propogandist faggot again here- hes comparing infected kids to uninfected, not infected to VACCD. nigger
After adjusting for patient and hospital characteristics, patients with COVID-19 during March 2020–January 2021 had, on average, 15.7 times the risk for myocarditis compared with those without COVID-19 (95% confidence interval [CI] = 14.1–17.2); by age, risk ratios ranged from approximately 7.0 for patients aged 16–39 years to >30.0 for patients aged <16 years or ≥75 years. Overall, myocarditis was uncommon among persons with and without COVID-19; however, COVID-19 was significantly associated with an increased risk for myocarditis, with risk varying by age group. These findings underscore the importance of implementing evidence-based COVID-19 prevention strategies, including vaccination, to reduce the public health impact of COVID-19 and its associated complications.
Its unclear how much they adjusted it by, or in which direction.
During March 2020–January 2021, the period that coincided with the COVID-19 pandemic, the risk for myocarditis was 0.146% among patients diagnosed with COVID-19 during an inpatient or hospital-based outpatient encounter and 0.009% among patients who were not diagnosed with COVID-19.
14 tenths of a percent.
0.14 to 0.01 I love how his other study where he says "DWARFED THE RISK OY MYOCARD IN KIDS" literally says in the first paragraph:
An elevated risk for myocarditis among mRNA COVID-19 vaccinees has been observed, particularly in males aged 12–29 years.
lmao. This guy is a faggot propogandist.
The median age of the 323 patients meeting CDC’s case definitions was 19 years (range = 12−29 years); 291 were male, and 32 were female. The median interval from vaccination to symptom onset was 2 days (range = 0−40 days); 92% of patients experienced onset of symptoms within 7 days of vaccination.
(OF THE PEOPLE WHO NOTICED IT!!!!!!!)
As of June 11, 2021, approximately 296 million doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines had been administered in the United States, with 52 million administered to persons aged 12–29 years; of these, 30 million were first and 22 million were second doses. Within the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) (4), the national vaccine safety passive monitoring system, 1,226 reports of myocarditis after mRNA vaccination were received during December 29, 2020–June 11, 2021. Among persons with reported myocarditis after mRNA vaccination, the median age was 26 years (range = 12–94 years), with median symptom onset interval of 3 days after vaccination
so they used vaers to definitively say how many myo cases there are... obv no problems with that that anyone with a brain could see in like 2 seconds, nopeo none
The median interval from vaccination to symptom onset was 2 days (range = 0−40 days); 92% of patients experienced onset of symptoms within 7 days of vaccination. Of the 323 persons meeting CDC’s case definitions, 309 (96%) were hospitalized. Acute clinical courses were generally mild; among 304 hospitalized patients with known clinical outcomes, 95% had been discharged at time of review, and none had died.
There is NO LONG TERM FOLLOW UP ON THIS DATA . YET THEY SAID THERE IS NO HARM OR WHATVER. DANGEROUS 9ANTI-SCIENCE**!!
Using myocarditis cases reported to VAERS with onset within 7 days after dose 2 of an mRNA vaccine, crude reporting rates (i.e., using confirmed and unconfirmed cases) per million second dose recipients were calculated using national COVID-19 vaccine administration data as of June 11, 2021. Myocarditis reporting rates were 40.6 cases per million second doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines administered to males aged 12−29 years and 2.4 per million second doses administered to males aged ≥30 years; reporting rates among females in these age groups were 4.2 and 1.0 per million second doses, respectively.***
someone else can compare the math and put it next to the digits from his last claim, if you will.
The highest reporting rates were among males aged 12−17 years and those aged 18−24 years
So its literally HIGHEST in this group and comey, sanjay is saying its worth the risks.
62.8 and 50.5 reported myocarditis cases per million second doses
or in other words, the case rate of myocard for CHILDREN IS 25% HIGHER THAN FOR 18+!!!!!!!! that is cause FOR ALARM!!!!!! FUCK SANJAY IN HIS EVIL INDIAN ASSCUNT
Myocarditis rates from Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD), based on electronic health records, were also evaluated. Although numbers were too small to show rates in all subgroups by age, VSD data indicated increased risk of myocarditis in the 7 days after receipt of dose 1 or dose 2 of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine compared with the risk 22–42 days after the second dose, particularly among younger males after dose 2
The benefit-risk assessment was stratified by age group and sex. The analysis assumed 95% vaccine effectiveness§§§§ of 2 doses of a mRNA COVID-19 vaccine in preventing COVID-19 cases and hospitalization
already out of date, nice citation gupta
and assessed outcomes for a 120-day period.
THEY ONLY LOOKED AT THE OUTCOME FOR 4 months. LoL
inputs regarding community transmission have high uncertainty beyond this period, particularly in the context of circulating variants.
Double lol .
The benefits (prevention of COVID-19 disease and associated hospitalizations, ICU admissions, and deaths) outweighed the risks (expected myocarditis cases after vaccination) in all populations for which vaccination has been recommended. However, the balance of benefits and risks varied by age and sex because cases of myocarditis were primarily identified
(for 120 days....) not even a full year
However, the balance of benefits and risks varied by age and sex because cases of myocarditis were primarily identified among males aged <30 years, and the risks of poor outcomes related to COVID-19 increase with age
aka fucking over the kiddos
Per million second doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccine administered to males aged 12–29 years, 11,000 COVID-19 cases, 560 hospitalizations, 138 ICU admissions, and six deaths due to COVID-19 could be prevented
smoking gupta, sanday vajoina just owned the hwole vaccs are better shit unintentionally
compared with 39–47 expected myocarditis cases
the rate is literallt 6-+x more than the deaths that were prevented.
im starting to really dislike this lil cucklet.
ACIP also reviewed population-level considerations regarding vaccination. No alternatives to mRNA COVID-19 vaccines for adolescents will be available for the foreseeable future, and vaccination of adolescents offers protection against COVID-19 that can be important for returning to educational, social, and extracurricular activities.
f . u .
Higher levels of vaccination coverage can reduce community transmission, which can protect against development and circulation of emerging variants.
False. did Vanjay even read this??
Regarding health equity considerations, racial and ethnic minority groups have higher rates of COVID-19 and severe disease*****; potential changes in vaccine policy, or anything that would affect vaccination coverage for adolescents or young adults, might disproportionately affect those groups with the highest rates of poor COVID-19 outcomes.
Woke vaccination policy
The ACIP discussion concluded that 1) the benefits of vaccinating all recommended age groups with mRNA COVID-19 vaccine clearly outweigh the risks of vaccination, including the risk of myocard
Lol, no
continuing to monitor outcomes of myocarditis cases after COVID-19 vaccination is important; and 3) providers and the public should be informed about these myocarditis cases and the use of COVID-19 vaccines.
Uh oh mr sanjay vajoina isnt doing number 3, is he? tsk tsk tsk mr liar propogandist
Based on ACIP’s conclusion regarding the benefit-risk assessment on June 23, 2021, COVID-19 vaccination continues to be recommended for all persons aged ≥12 years
Truly Disgusting.
CDC has updated patient education and communication materials reflecting this information for the Pfizer-BioNTech¶¶¶¶¶ and Moderna****** COVID-19 vaccines; these are important to ensure that vaccine recipients, especially males aged 12–29 years, are aware of increased risk for myocarditis and to seek care if they develop symptoms of myocarditis.
Sanjay is a fucking niggar for ignoring this.
The vaccine product-specific EUA fact sheet should be provided to all vaccine recipients and their caregivers before vaccination with any authorized COVID-19 vaccine.
triple oof
CDC and FDA will continue to closely monitor reports of myocarditis after receipt of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines and will bring any additional data to ACIP for consideration.
LOL, RITE
The ACIP recommendation for use of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines under an EUA is interim and will be updated as additional information becomes available.
FDA requires that vaccine providers report to VAERS vaccination administration errors, serious adverse events,†††††† cases of multisystem inflammatory syndrome, and cases of COVID-19 that result in h
I just had to rebutt this cuck fully, last part is ahead- he is entirely rekt
LOL, RITE
The ACIP recommendation for use of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines under an EUA is interim and will be updated as additional information becomes available.
FDA requires that vaccine providers report to VAERS vaccination administration errors, serious adverse events,†††††† cases of multisystem inflammatory syndrome, and cases of COVID-19 that result in hospitalization or death after administration of a COVID-19 vaccine under an EUA.
CDC also encourages reporting of any additional clinically significant adverse event, even if it is not clear whether a vaccination caused the event.
LOL. THATS A GOOD ONE. ITS EVEN BETTER THAN SOMEONE TELLING A PUNCH LINE THAT ENDS WITH THEM CLAIMING SANJAY IS A REAL DOC 😂😂
Antibody testingexternal icon is not currently recommended to assess the need for vaccination in an unvaccinated person or to assess for immunity to SARS-CoV-2 following COVID-19 vaccination.
Triple oof
For me, the risk-benefit analysis is clear: Vaccination is safer than infection.
Because youre not a child, faggot
a small part of me thought I might change Joe Rogan's mind about vaccines. After this last exchange, I realized it was probably futile.
Well yeah, seeing as basically most of your oped is propoganda and I dont think you even read what was in those papers you shared, you wont be able to convince anbody but the sheep over at cnn who keep you hired for some reason even though your clear lack of any ability to understand contempory medicinal research. I doubt your abilities as a doctor are voracious.
His mind was made up, and there would always be plenty of misinformation out there neatly packaged to support his convictions.
Ironic, go read your own papers some time, you pompous retard.
Truth is though, I am still glad I did it.
Wow the first sentence in here that isnt a lie (I think)
If just a few of his listeners were convinced, it will have been well worth it.
There's no way anyone listened to that podcast and came away with any conclusion other than this guy got fucking annihilated on basically everything.
Like, Joe had him sitting there, forced to concede in front of MILLIONS of people, that CNN, HIS EMPLOYER, are broadcasting complete fucking lies as news about something as simple as Joe Rogan's medical treatment.
As Joe pointed out: If they're willing to knowingly lie to people about this, then they also lie even more about Russia and god knows what else. They can't be trusted on ANYTHING.
I ran out of danged damn characters. Part deus ahead-
"recent', this is a two month old study that still hasnt been peer reviewed LMAO. THIS GUY is a MEDICAL "EXPERT" HAHAHAHAHAHA
aka they only looked at one state. and it says among those infected, but we wont have a list of EVERYONE INFECTED in 2020. we would also only likely be looking at THE WORST CASES because those who had few or no symptoms for the first wave WOULDNA have been tested. so the people who were in 2020 skewed to the weaker side towards coronavirus.
and there were only 246 case patients, and 400 something controls. 600 people is NOT enough to say theres a countrywide 2.34 chance to get reinfected by corona vs vacced people.
FALSE SCIENCE
I like how this niggar is using a study from months before the israeli studies of antibodies came out to make it seem like it isnt a good study
And there it is. LITERLLY in the next line hes acting like thise months old study proves the israeli one wrong. this guy should be disbarred from the medical profession for this chincanery.
0- DOUBT
ok so hes being a fucking propogandist faggot again here- hes comparing infected kids to uninfected, not infected to VACCD. nigger
Its unclear how much they adjusted it by, or in which direction.
14 tenths of a percent.
0.14 to 0.01 I love how his other study where he says "DWARFED THE RISK OY MYOCARD IN KIDS" literally says in the first paragraph:
lmao. This guy is a faggot propogandist.
(OF THE PEOPLE WHO NOTICED IT!!!!!!!)
so they used vaers to definitively say how many myo cases there are... obv no problems with that that anyone with a brain could see in like 2 seconds, nopeo none
There is NO LONG TERM FOLLOW UP ON THIS DATA . YET THEY SAID THERE IS NO HARM OR WHATVER. DANGEROUS 9ANTI-SCIENCE**!!
someone else can compare the math and put it next to the digits from his last claim, if you will.
So its literally HIGHEST in this group and comey, sanjay is saying its worth the risks.
or in other words, the case rate of myocard for CHILDREN IS 25% HIGHER THAN FOR 18+!!!!!!!! that is cause FOR ALARM!!!!!! FUCK SANJAY IN HIS EVIL INDIAN ASSCUNT
already out of date, nice citation gupta
THEY ONLY LOOKED AT THE OUTCOME FOR 4 months. LoL
Double lol .
(for 120 days....) not even a full year
aka fucking over the kiddos
smoking gupta, sanday vajoina just owned the hwole vaccs are better shit unintentionally
the rate is literallt 6-+x more than the deaths that were prevented.
im starting to really dislike this lil cucklet.
ACIP also reviewed population-level considerations regarding vaccination. No alternatives to mRNA COVID-19 vaccines for adolescents will be available for the foreseeable future, and vaccination of adolescents offers protection against COVID-19 that can be important for returning to educational, social, and extracurricular activities.
f . u .
False. did Vanjay even read this??
Woke vaccination policy
Lol, no
Uh oh mr sanjay vajoina isnt doing number 3, is he? tsk tsk tsk mr liar propogandist
Truly Disgusting.
Sanjay is a fucking niggar for ignoring this.
triple oof
LOL, RITE
I just had to rebutt this cuck fully, last part is ahead- he is entirely rekt
LOL, RITE
LOL. THATS A GOOD ONE. ITS EVEN BETTER THAN SOMEONE TELLING A PUNCH LINE THAT ENDS WITH THEM CLAIMING SANJAY IS A REAL DOC 😂😂
Antibody testingexternal icon is not currently recommended to assess the need for vaccination in an unvaccinated person or to assess for immunity to SARS-CoV-2 following COVID-19 vaccination.
Triple oof
Because youre not a child, faggot
Well yeah, seeing as basically most of your oped is propoganda and I dont think you even read what was in those papers you shared, you wont be able to convince anbody but the sheep over at cnn who keep you hired for some reason even though your clear lack of any ability to understand contempory medicinal research. I doubt your abilities as a doctor are voracious.
Ironic, go read your own papers some time, you pompous retard.
Wow the first sentence in here that isnt a lie (I think)
Dont count on it, faggo.
There's no way anyone listened to that podcast and came away with any conclusion other than this guy got fucking annihilated on basically everything.
Like, Joe had him sitting there, forced to concede in front of MILLIONS of people, that CNN, HIS EMPLOYER, are broadcasting complete fucking lies as news about something as simple as Joe Rogan's medical treatment.
As Joe pointed out: If they're willing to knowingly lie to people about this, then they also lie even more about Russia and god knows what else. They can't be trusted on ANYTHING.