I found this regressive leftist propaganda thread called "15 Bad Faith Arguments made Against the Use of Puberty Blockers for Trans Adolescents", and everything said was either irrelevant or lies and this is a list of responses to every point
#1 “They are new and untested”: They’ve been used since 1988 for Trans adolescents, with follow up studies for 20 years. We've summarised over 30 academic papers: https://archive.is/GQbqI
- Claims that your enemies do not know how old the procedure is are lies, everything else is irrelevant.
#2 “Kids are too young to have Puberty Blockers”: They are only used with Trans Adolescents from the start of puberty to block puberty & give 'thinking time'. There’s no moral panic in their use for precocious puberty at a much younger age.
- Acknowledges absolutely nothing and is therefore a bad faith argument.
#3 “They are powerful cancer drugs”: They are used to stop testosterone and oestrogen. This can be useful to stop puberty, or also can be useful when certain cancers are exacerbated by testosterone or oestrogen. Calling them a "cancer drug" is bad faith & misleading scaremongering
- We do not care they are used in some cancer treatments as several other drugs are used for various purposes, claiming otherwise is a lie.
#4 “They are irreversible”: False. They're medically & physically reversible. If they're stopped, puberty continues. “What about psychology? If adolescents have blockers, they can’t turn back time to have never had them”. Well every action we take is irreversible. Bad faith.
- Blatantly lies about irreversibility as hormones have various physiological effects that cannot be legitimately fixed via surgery
#5 "They're used "off label". That means they're experimental": 75% of medicines in neonatal intensive care are "off-label". 25% of children's medicines in hospital are “off-label”, 10% medicines prescribed for children in the UK are off-label or unlicensed https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/199958/National_Service_Framework_for_Children_Young_People_and_Maternity_Services_-_Medicines_for_Children_and_Young_People.pdf
- Tons of drugs are used off label,
#6 “The existing evidence is not high quality”.: Sample sizes are small as very few trans adolescents have been treated to date. Want larger sample sizes? Then lower barriers to access. Dr's, adolescents & their families want the best standard of evidence possible.
- There is evidence now, and there are a ton of cases of wrongful transition that your shitty ideology is responsible for.
#7 “There's not been Randomised Control Trials”: A score of experts have time & again stated Randomised Control Trials are unethical & would unfeasible. Bad faith commentators 'require' a Blind RCT – as if trans adolescents wouldn’t notice progressing through puberty! Bad Faith.
- Irrelevant to discussion
#8 “Z Value Bone Density decreases when adolescents are on blockers”: "Z value Bone Density" compares bone density to expected age-based norms. Bone density rises as an effect of puberty. Those on puberty blockers will not have this rise at the same time as those not blocked, This means bone density compared to their non puberty blocked cis peers decreases (however their actual bone density continues to rise at a relatively slower rate). If puberty resumes (by stopping blockers or starting HRT), bone density increases at a higher rate.
- Lies, see 4.
#9 “We don’t know the impact on brain”: Bad faith. There are many many things we do not know about the human brain. Blockers have been studied for their impact on many different variables, kidney function (fine), well-being (it improves), mental health (it improves), Impact on gender dysphoria (stays same, HRT improves dysphoria). Blockers have even been studied for effect on Executive Functions (no negative impacts). There's much evidence of benefits & no evidence of harm. Medical decisions are made based on the current evidence.
- They're the one making the bad faith arguments as hormones are documented to affect psychology, also drugs will strain organs no mater what.
#10 “Do nothing until there is much more evidence”: Doing nothing is not a neutral decision. Puberty for trans adolescents causes significant harm. Puberty blockers are proven to be beneficial. Withholding beneficial medical care is not a value-neutral ethical decision. Bad Faith.
- Wrongful transition is worse, thus another bad faith argument by regressives.
#11 Use of Biased / fringe 'medical' sources: These include hate group designated 'American College of Pediatricians'. Former GIDS psychoanalysts (with no medical qualifications & an axe to grind). Niche studies on brain scans of sheep & blogs from Evangelical funded groups.
#12 Citing non-peer reviewed opinion pieces in "respected" journals. E.g. Employee of BMJ who also works for BBC using a BMJ blog as evidence for a BBC 'investigation'; Then hiring a colleague with no expertise in gender health to write a critical summary citing the same blog.
#13 Further signs of bad faith include: Failure to report the clear well-being benefits of timely blockers including avoidance of acute distress & pain, of adolescents not dropping out of school / failing in school, benefits to teens of learning, growing & enjoying adolescence.
#14 Yet more signs of bad faith include: Failure to state the global medical consensus which supports the use of puberty blockers for trans adolescents including the Endocrine Society, the American Academy of Paediatrics, the World Professional Association of Transgender Health.
#15 Failing to clarify if the preferred medical outcome for trans youth is denial of medical support & instead psychotherapy to "help them accept themselves as they are". This is conversion therapy. It causes immense harm. There is no place for it in modern medical practice.
11-15 is just the writer spewing propaganda about people ignoring/denying their junk science.
source: https://archive.is/cljrm
Never relent from pointing out the obvious pedos.
I remember reading that gender ideology was created a kiddy diddler who was into little boys. He had no shame about being a pedophile but denied being a faggot with every fiber of his being. His delusion ran so deep that he created an entire ideology to justify turning boys into "girls". Violently repressed homosexuality has always been just beneath the surface of the tranny problem.
You're probably thinking of John Money, who is on my pasta, but Magnus Hirschfeld predates him a bit. It's difficult to say who is the particular creator of the modern child mutilation ideology. Reaching back in time, you'll find trannies mark the decline of civilization, such as the Roman Emporer Heliogabalus. Onto the pasta...
The Father of the Sexual Revolution, Alfred Kinsey, and creator of the Kinsey Scale of sexuality, conducted infant rape and documented it in his 1946 work Sexual Behavior In The Human Male. Bill de Blasio put pedos next to elementary schools. The Tavistock Clinic was doing mass medical tranny experimentation on children, but was fortunately slapped down recently by reactionary judges. In Germany, Dr Kentler gave foster kids to pedos, and green movement founder Daniel Cohn-Bendit bragged about a child sex daycare.
Globohomo's chomopomo prophets openly talk about their love of pedos:
-Camille Paglia, Sexual Personae
-Pat Califia, The Aftermath of the Great Kiddy-Porn Panic of '77
-Allen Ginsberg, The Liberation is the Word, literary author, gay activist and founding member of NAMBLA
-Guy Hocquenghem, Sexual Morality and the Law, signer of the 1977 petition against age of consent laws
-Gayle Rubin, Thinking Sex, widely regarded as a founding text of Gay/Lesbian studies and Queer Theory
-David Thorstad, rage email, president of both the Gay Activists Alliance and Coalition for Lesbian and Gay Rights in NYC in the 1970s, founder of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), compared being a pederast in the US with being "a Jew in Nazi Germany"
-Judith Butler, Undoing Gender, most influential living gender theorist. She sees incest taboo as working towards heteronormativity and asks that prohibition on incest be rethought to prevent the "violation" that is heteronormativity.
-John Money, Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia, psychologist who forced a boy to be a girl and get humped by his twin brother after a botched circumcision. Both of the Reimer brothers committed suicide.
-Michel Foucault, The Danger of Child Sexuality, Pope of Chomopomo, most cited academic in grievance studies, signer of the 1977 petition against age of consent laws
-Wilhem Reich, The Mass Psychology of Fascism
Other notable globohomo clergy:
Judge Brett Blomme, organizer of Drag Queen Story hour, made child porn in his home.
Henry "Harry" Hay, pioneer in US Gay rights, founder of the first sustained gay rights group in the US. Supported NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association) and marched in the pride parade with a "NAMBLA walks with me" shirt.
Magnus Hirschfeld founder in 1897 of an institute deemed "the first advocacy for homosexual and transgender rights", considered homosexual "ephebophiles" as something common and nonpathological.
Simone de Beauvoir, lesbian feminist superhero second to none, of "every woman is homosexual by nature" fame, was one of the signers of the 1977 petition against age of consent laws demanding "recognition of the right of children and adolescents to maintain relationships with persons of their choice". It was in reaction to three men being taken to trial for grooming boys and girls under 15 years of age, but allegedly "without violence".
Harvey Milk, the first openly gay elected official in California, of Oscar winning biopic about his life, and has a Navy ship named after him. Milk took advantage of his work with at-risk youth to groom at least one 16yo runaway Jack Galen McKinley who had substance abuse problems and lived on the streets of NYC (where the age of consent was 17). Jack would end up comitting suicide years later.
Pedowood is just the tip of pomochomo media:
Victor Salva's rape of his 12 year old actor is defended by intelligensia allies like John Edgar Browning.
Wikipedia is more pozzed than Charlie Sheen:
Rodney Reed raped a 12 year old and wikipedia covered it up for Shaun King's BLM bullshit.
Plebbit is run by tranny pedos.
tl;dr Not fucking children is somehow child abuse.
Last updated 15 July 2021