The Americans literally fled from the biggest base in the night, like thieves, without telling the Afghans they're leaving, leaving all do their vehicles behind. Now they're sending these incredibly ridiculous fucking tweets. They will be tweeting about how surrendering Taiwanese being executed "can be considered a war crime and shows no respect for hashtag HumanRights", too, and asking the Chicom soldiers not to reverse "democratic progress in Taiwan" or some other shit like you'd expect from The Duffel Blog but now it's real.
You have no idea how dismayed I am. I have put my trust entirely in America for 3 decades. Now it's all gone. Worse still, American government today actively exports fucking degeneracy to my country and subverts our values. This is where there their priorities are. The fucking Biden called us "thugs of the world", then went to what they've been accusing Trump of: appeased Putin (while destroying American economy and society and military and everything). You're fucked, but we're fucked to, China and satellites (like Russia) won. It's over and it's done.
POLITICS IN THE PHILIPPINES: Duterte sees it too. This is why he so completely surrendered, now is a chief of a Chinese colony because he accepted the new reality.
I agree in some sense is just that I did not see an end in Afghanistan, it sucks over all but what was the solution to let US police the area until the end of time?
It is a mess I'm glad I do not have a personal stake in. If you live or have family there I am sorry. I would have preferred the Taliban lost.
As I am uneducated on the subject, what is the actual situation over there? How come the Taliban have apparently a greater armed force then the Afghanistan army? Would it not have been better and cheaper for US to just arm the local armed forces? Or there is to much corruption?
Also my solution, retrospectively: Americans should have go in relatively hard in December 2001 with all special forces units available (also from allied nations) plus the entire 10th Mountain and kill Osama at Tora Bora then immediately get out with the unironic aircraft carrier banner "Mission Accomplished" and leave it to anyone who wanted to be involved in this business from there on (with Pakistan, Russia, Iran, China being aligned but not quite on this issue - I guess Russia and Iran would ask China to pressure the Pakis to stop aiding the Taliban remnants). Instead the "fallacy" of the Graveyard of Empires turned out to be true. The American empire, if you can call it so, really died there in long turn.
I guess the Afghans really don't give a fuck about warlords and Taliban.
Imposing your will and a national government was impossible on tribes who really couldn't give a shit about anything and any authority outside their little area.
In a way, the Afghans are more freedom-minded and resilient than Americans.
Do not hate me, or hate me, I do not care but removing US troops from Afghanistan was a good thing.
US should have left them resolve their own problems to begin with. I even forgot why US was there in the first place.
The Americans literally fled from the biggest base in the night, like thieves, without telling the Afghans they're leaving, leaving all do their vehicles behind. Now they're sending these incredibly ridiculous fucking tweets. They will be tweeting about how surrendering Taiwanese being executed "can be considered a war crime and shows no respect for hashtag HumanRights", too, and asking the Chicom soldiers not to reverse "democratic progress in Taiwan" or some other shit like you'd expect from The Duffel Blog but now it's real.
You have no idea how dismayed I am. I have put my trust entirely in America for 3 decades. Now it's all gone. Worse still, American government today actively exports fucking degeneracy to my country and subverts our values. This is where there their priorities are. The fucking Biden called us "thugs of the world", then went to what they've been accusing Trump of: appeased Putin (while destroying American economy and society and military and everything). You're fucked, but we're fucked to, China and satellites (like Russia) won. It's over and it's done.
POLITICS IN THE PHILIPPINES: Duterte sees it too. This is why he so completely surrendered, now is a chief of a Chinese colony because he accepted the new reality.
I agree in some sense is just that I did not see an end in Afghanistan, it sucks over all but what was the solution to let US police the area until the end of time?
It is a mess I'm glad I do not have a personal stake in. If you live or have family there I am sorry. I would have preferred the Taliban lost.
As I am uneducated on the subject, what is the actual situation over there? How come the Taliban have apparently a greater armed force then the Afghanistan army? Would it not have been better and cheaper for US to just arm the local armed forces? Or there is to much corruption?
Also my solution, retrospectively: Americans should have go in relatively hard in December 2001 with all special forces units available (also from allied nations) plus the entire 10th Mountain and kill Osama at Tora Bora then immediately get out with the unironic aircraft carrier banner "Mission Accomplished" and leave it to anyone who wanted to be involved in this business from there on (with Pakistan, Russia, Iran, China being aligned but not quite on this issue - I guess Russia and Iran would ask China to pressure the Pakis to stop aiding the Taliban remnants). Instead the "fallacy" of the Graveyard of Empires turned out to be true. The American empire, if you can call it so, really died there in long turn.
I guess the Afghans really don't give a fuck about warlords and Taliban.
Imposing your will and a national government was impossible on tribes who really couldn't give a shit about anything and any authority outside their little area.
In a way, the Afghans are more freedom-minded and resilient than Americans.