They're mostly 'old fashioned' (in a good way) 2nd-wave feminists, more focused on equality than 'equity', and most honest, self-consistent, and likeable than many of those who followed (and went on to lash out at gaming culture...) Yes, there's still elements of man-hate, but it tends to come from genuine experiences of violence. And they seem much more focused on serious real-world issues than policing the fictional worlds of movies, books, and games.
You don't have to agree with everything they say. You might be at opposite ends of the left-right spectrum. But the TERFs should be allies of anyone who's genuinely fighting for free speech and against the woke redefinition of and policing of language.
No. Fuck them. "there's still elements of man-hate" They absolutely hate men and their reasoning for it does not matter. They may hate trannies and be "genuinely fighting for free speech" (not true, they want men silenced) but they are certainly not allies in the culture war. They can put on their big girl pants and fight their own fights but it's best to have nothing to do with them.
Spez: Giving them any credibility is exactly how we ended up in this mess. While some may stop at second wave feminism, which is still destructive to society on its own, we have seen and are living in what it ultimately becomes. As I said, they laid the groundwork for the tranny golem. TERFs don't like this outcome and are trying to put everything back in the bottle but they opened it. Let them live with it.
IMHO, give TERFs a chance.
They're mostly 'old fashioned' (in a good way) 2nd-wave feminists, more focused on equality than 'equity', and most honest, self-consistent, and likeable than many of those who followed (and went on to lash out at gaming culture...) Yes, there's still elements of man-hate, but it tends to come from genuine experiences of violence. And they seem much more focused on serious real-world issues than policing the fictional worlds of movies, books, and games.
You don't have to agree with everything they say. You might be at opposite ends of the left-right spectrum. But the TERFs should be allies of anyone who's genuinely fighting for free speech and against the woke redefinition of and policing of language.
No. Fuck them. "there's still elements of man-hate" They absolutely hate men and their reasoning for it does not matter. They may hate trannies and be "genuinely fighting for free speech" (not true, they want men silenced) but they are certainly not allies in the culture war. They can put on their big girl pants and fight their own fights but it's best to have nothing to do with them.
Spez: Giving them any credibility is exactly how we ended up in this mess. While some may stop at second wave feminism, which is still destructive to society on its own, we have seen and are living in what it ultimately becomes. As I said, they laid the groundwork for the tranny golem. TERFs don't like this outcome and are trying to put everything back in the bottle but they opened it. Let them live with it.