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In case anyone thought the Game of Thrones spinoffs were going to be anything but woke garbage (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
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– willy-willis 25 points 5 years ago +25 / -0

Eh, I wouldn't go that far. Yeah, Daenaerys fully devolved into a psychopathic tyrant (in a manner much more rushed & less organic than the buildup to that in the books, which will never be finished...) and was killed for it, but the show's other feminist superwhamen got off just fine.

  • Sansa, the queen bitch whose idea of being a good leader includes talking down to the (male) help and her uncle (who's sacrificed everything & became a Lannister prisoner for their family) on the regular, betraying Jon's secret immediately and antagonizing Dany the dragon-rider who has obliterated entire armies on the occasion that she and her dragons actually participate: becomes Queen of the North with no apparent repercussions and despite having done nothing to deserve that crown.

  • Arya, the show's most obvious female Mary Sue to such an extreme that even the defenders of the later seasons have conceded there's no defending the bullshit she gets up to before whacking the Night King, like that time she swam in an open sewer after being gut-stabbed half a dozen times and was just peachy: lives to the end and sails into the sunset, at peace with her family after not having to choose between them or her revenge at all (unlike what has been foreshadowed in the books).

  • Brienne, who the show turned into a totally un-feminine brutish thug shorn of all the kindness & self-doubts she had in the books and allowed to also get her revenge on Stannis without any moral conflict or consequence: lives to the end, becomes a Kingsguard and writes positively about Jaime in the White Book despite his own complete betrayal of his eight-season character arc.

And so on. Other than Dany, I think the only major female characters to get screwed over were Ellaria and the Sand Snakes, and that was because they had become way too hated by the audience for even D&D and the late-season GoT writing staff to get away with giving them anything resembling a happy ending.

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– willy-willis 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

My guess is that they invested too much & saw themselves in Dany, whose show version was an unironic 'enlightened white progressive female savior of the world's oppressed' type until literally the second-to-last episode. A lot of her shadier actions and blatant atrocities, like having a little girl tortured to compel a confession from her (almost certainly innocent) parents in Book 5, are downplayed or simply don't happen at all on the show, so her progression to Girl Hitler felt way less organic and more 'unfair' on-screen.

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– willy-willis 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Fair. I would have thought the same myself, had the show not gone out of its way to either change the circumstances around Dany's atrocities so that she's the one in the right (to be fair this isn't exclusive to her, Tyrion has a pivotal scene changed from him murdering someone in a fit of rage to killing them in self-defense for example) or to outright delete those atrocities. If the intention was to portray her as the villain all along, they've got to give her actual villainous stuff to do instead of just the occasional ominous remark & chords; the latter is just poor storytelling (or in other words 'show, don't tell').

That organic buildup over five books is why I can believe Book Dany would turn out to be a psychotic warlord in the end, but why Show Dany's turn weirded even me out despite my not liking the character or the show by then: she's just overall far more arrogant, ruthless and entitled in the books, and does a lot more that makes her less likable. The way she was set up on the show, however, left me with the impression that D&D were trying to make her into an unironic progressive messiah until the very end - and when that end came, how the heel turn was done was 'subverting expectations' bullshit that was also a total anticlimax for the character's arc until that point, as was the case with pretty much every other major and middling character on the show.

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