I think you deserve at least a little more engagement than you've received, so I'll ask for some clarification.
This sort of attraction you've expressed here, would you say that it demands your personal acknowledgement of non-physical attributes for the character(s) involved? To be direct, I wish to confirm that you are primarily attracted to the physical attributes that you've described and -not- any other attribute like personality or mental/emotional immaturity (you already stated that legality/age are of no interest).
IF you were to confirm the above, do you think your preferred body type would have an impact on your potential real life mate selection? Ignoring the difficulty of finding such an adult woman who lacks (or has diminished) secondary sexual characteristics.
I would sum up the physical aspect of most loli as 'lacking secondary sexual characteristics'. The labelling is murky, of course, but I get the feeling we have the same functional definitions for it. However, if you were only attracted to that aspect, it sort of leads one to wonder if traps appealed to you similarly.
Okay, I'll try to clarify. First off, no, my enjoyment of lolis does not demand acknowledgement of non-physical attributes. As I said in my first comment, it's not the "idea" of lolis that appeals to me, it's the "visuals", the body type, which is often "short girl with small boobs".
Now, I'd like to add an important note; I don't actually agree with your definition of lolis being "lacking secondary sexual characteristics". I disagree because there is a large spectrum of lolis, and not every type of loli will fit that description. Some are as you define them, and some are, as I've said, short girls with small boobs. I feel that this is an important distinction.
Personally, the closer a loli is to how you define them, the less I will like it. In fact, I consider the drawings of lolis with more "realistic" body types to be a huge turn off. I like small boobs, not flat to the point that they haven't even started to develop yet. Not that there's anything morally wrong with enjoying that style of loli hentai. It's still just as fictional, and therefore harmless, as the loli hentai with clearly exaggerated, "unrealistic" body types. Though I could understand if someone thinks it's extra creepy compared to the exaggerated kind.
Regarding traps, no, traps do not appeal to me. You may have thought it would be logical to assume I like traps, since you seem to have made the assumption that traps and lolis have the same body type, but that isn't the case. I don't consider them to have the same body type, and "trap" itself is not a body type that I like. I don't like cock, and I don't like literally flat chests, so traps are a no-go for me.
However, I'm not entirely averse to the presence of traps in hentai either. Before anyone tries to call me gay for admitting that, I'd like to point out that trap hentai, like loli hentai, exists on a spectrum. Just because a trap exists in a hentai, that doesn't mean the focus of the hentai is on something gay, like yaoi, or pegging. It could be that a hentai with a trap in it is about a trap fucking a girl, which is something I might be down to read depending on the quality of the art and story.
As for whether my body type preference would affect my choice of mate in real life, I'm not sure why you'd ask this, but I would say yes. Not to the point of overriding all other characteristics though. I would definitely prefer a slim, small-breasted gf, but real life isn't hentai. You can't have it exactly the way you want it, and I think there's more important things then appearance when it comes to a mate. So, I think i'd be willing to compromise a little on appearance. If she had the right personality and interests, I'd probably be happy with a thick girl(not too thick though, I don't want a fatty) with humongous D-cups.
I'd rather not have to bring up a body type chart and argue the fine details of which stages of physical maturity should fall under loli; my proposal was already generous by including diminished secondary sexual characteristics. Maybe I should have said "secondary sexual characteristics that have not reached 100% maturity", but I suppose even that could be confused by genetics.
I could probably also say androgyny, but somehow that implies to me that there's some physical maturity, which would exclude the younger range of loli. Personally, I've started using "toddler" for the very young range, but that's loaded in itself since it seems to be the label for realistic (and often western sourced) loli, which I think most fans of common loli would rather not see.
I wish we had more specific terms for these things; spectrum terms cause problems in communicating clearly.
Anyway, your clarification did make it clear that 0% secondary sexual maturity is a no-go, so it'd make sense to exclude a wide range of traps even before you get to the genitals.
I brought up the real life mate selection mostly for curiousity, but I'll also be the guy to bring up stereotype of asians having childlike physiques. "Short, with small breasts" sounds like a relatively simple hurdle to clear in the real world, so I'd count you lucky. Imagine being into furry or goblins, or some other such fantasy niche - those people have got 0 chances of finding something like that in real life. But yes, you are right, looks don't count for everything. I didn't mean to imply that you're shallow, we're just engaged in a, um, superficial topic.
I think there's a theory to build in the mate selection realm with regards to fetishes/kinks/etc, but I'll have to get more data samples before I can really go there. The other questions I asked relate to other theories I'm working on, such as how the taboo factor is not the primary force that leads a person to pursue new/adjacent fetishes/kinks, despite contradictory claims.
I think you deserve at least a little more engagement than you've received, so I'll ask for some clarification.
This sort of attraction you've expressed here, would you say that it demands your personal acknowledgement of non-physical attributes for the character(s) involved? To be direct, I wish to confirm that you are primarily attracted to the physical attributes that you've described and -not- any other attribute like personality or mental/emotional immaturity (you already stated that legality/age are of no interest).
IF you were to confirm the above, do you think your preferred body type would have an impact on your potential real life mate selection? Ignoring the difficulty of finding such an adult woman who lacks (or has diminished) secondary sexual characteristics.
I would sum up the physical aspect of most loli as 'lacking secondary sexual characteristics'. The labelling is murky, of course, but I get the feeling we have the same functional definitions for it. However, if you were only attracted to that aspect, it sort of leads one to wonder if traps appealed to you similarly.
Okay, I'll try to clarify. First off, no, my enjoyment of lolis does not demand acknowledgement of non-physical attributes. As I said in my first comment, it's not the "idea" of lolis that appeals to me, it's the "visuals", the body type, which is often "short girl with small boobs".
Now, I'd like to add an important note; I don't actually agree with your definition of lolis being "lacking secondary sexual characteristics". I disagree because there is a large spectrum of lolis, and not every type of loli will fit that description. Some are as you define them, and some are, as I've said, short girls with small boobs. I feel that this is an important distinction.
Personally, the closer a loli is to how you define them, the less I will like it. In fact, I consider the drawings of lolis with more "realistic" body types to be a huge turn off. I like small boobs, not flat to the point that they haven't even started to develop yet. Not that there's anything morally wrong with enjoying that style of loli hentai. It's still just as fictional, and therefore harmless, as the loli hentai with clearly exaggerated, "unrealistic" body types. Though I could understand if someone thinks it's extra creepy compared to the exaggerated kind.
Regarding traps, no, traps do not appeal to me. You may have thought it would be logical to assume I like traps, since you seem to have made the assumption that traps and lolis have the same body type, but that isn't the case. I don't consider them to have the same body type, and "trap" itself is not a body type that I like. I don't like cock, and I don't like literally flat chests, so traps are a no-go for me.
However, I'm not entirely averse to the presence of traps in hentai either. Before anyone tries to call me gay for admitting that, I'd like to point out that trap hentai, like loli hentai, exists on a spectrum. Just because a trap exists in a hentai, that doesn't mean the focus of the hentai is on something gay, like yaoi, or pegging. It could be that a hentai with a trap in it is about a trap fucking a girl, which is something I might be down to read depending on the quality of the art and story.
As for whether my body type preference would affect my choice of mate in real life, I'm not sure why you'd ask this, but I would say yes. Not to the point of overriding all other characteristics though. I would definitely prefer a slim, small-breasted gf, but real life isn't hentai. You can't have it exactly the way you want it, and I think there's more important things then appearance when it comes to a mate. So, I think i'd be willing to compromise a little on appearance. If she had the right personality and interests, I'd probably be happy with a thick girl(not too thick though, I don't want a fatty) with humongous D-cups.
I'd rather not have to bring up a body type chart and argue the fine details of which stages of physical maturity should fall under loli; my proposal was already generous by including diminished secondary sexual characteristics. Maybe I should have said "secondary sexual characteristics that have not reached 100% maturity", but I suppose even that could be confused by genetics.
I could probably also say androgyny, but somehow that implies to me that there's some physical maturity, which would exclude the younger range of loli. Personally, I've started using "toddler" for the very young range, but that's loaded in itself since it seems to be the label for realistic (and often western sourced) loli, which I think most fans of common loli would rather not see.
I wish we had more specific terms for these things; spectrum terms cause problems in communicating clearly.
Anyway, your clarification did make it clear that 0% secondary sexual maturity is a no-go, so it'd make sense to exclude a wide range of traps even before you get to the genitals.
I brought up the real life mate selection mostly for curiousity, but I'll also be the guy to bring up stereotype of asians having childlike physiques. "Short, with small breasts" sounds like a relatively simple hurdle to clear in the real world, so I'd count you lucky. Imagine being into furry or goblins, or some other such fantasy niche - those people have got 0 chances of finding something like that in real life. But yes, you are right, looks don't count for everything. I didn't mean to imply that you're shallow, we're just engaged in a, um, superficial topic.
I think there's a theory to build in the mate selection realm with regards to fetishes/kinks/etc, but I'll have to get more data samples before I can really go there. The other questions I asked relate to other theories I'm working on, such as how the taboo factor is not the primary force that leads a person to pursue new/adjacent fetishes/kinks, despite contradictory claims.