After an incident where anti-loli false flaggots got an account wrongfully banned for cp, ottman decided to ban loli by making false arguments similar to what 8chan owner jim watkins and gab owner andrew torba made.
Minds userbase is having none of it, and are actively calling ottman out for lying while demanding this decision be reversed.
new edit: ottman is having a meltdown, calling people bots and deleting posts.
edit: the mods need to consider banning the anti-loli spergs on this site for pointless infighting.
I disagree though my second paragraph covers your point
How is it a separate point? I said even if you think they are pedo, cartoon art would still be a better alternative to keep them away from irl
But it's my opinion that I just disagree that they are pedo .( It also downplays the word pedo) Seeing as they are not in to actual things. And are majority against actual pedo
It downplays the word in the sense that if you use it like that now I don't know if you mean it's someone who is going after actual kids or someone who just likes anime. One hurts actual kids and is a actual detestable disgusting crime and the other is doing nothing to anyone. It's like asking how calling playing video games as "actual murder " is downplaying the word murder. Lolicon already describes it by itself which is purely anime but you try to mix it with pedophile to try to bring real kids in the conversation which is disingenuous
I like the argument you're building here, and crayet seems unable to participate. So how about me? I deny the notion that there exists a thing without reason.
Before I start, could I get a stricter guideline than "loli porn"? I will not ask you to provide an example for me to explain, as I assume you'd find that unpleasant (and potentially illegal, depending on your country). I could volunteer my own examples, but I'd potentially be wasting breath explaining a work that turns out to not fit the (currently unstated) criteria. We may as well disregard any image that holds no narrative context, because it would basically comes down to illustrative style or craftsmanship.
Even without more data, I can make some guesses based on my own experience with manga that isn't on porn sites. Broadly: metaphorical value, asthetic value, crude tonal display, and expression of incentive from another character's point of view. There's a lot of times where it's simply a bore or a symptom of a floundering artist.
Cause someone just likes loli? It's like asking why people like horror movies or violent video games do they want to murder someone? . And lolicons hate actual pedos
What is my argument? I already said my argument. I don't believe in censorship especially when people are using emotional arguments and this is to me the same thing as 1980s scare mongering over fiction being satanic or violent video games and leftists have taken to calling everything in anime pedo , so I don't want to give an inch to censorship of fiction that has done nothing.