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Has anyone seen how over the top woke kaldheim(magic the gathering) is
posted 5 years ago by Familiarwobble17 5 years ago by Familiarwobble17 +27 / -0

Basically the title. I love various ccg and may just move back to some other like yugioh or something

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– Adamrises 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

bet Yugioh doesn't get too bad since the Japanese seem to resist this

Yugioh is bad in a lot of its own ways, mostly related to power creep and Meta/ban lists. Which will be a problem if you seek people to play with who aren't friends for jolly good times.

Fortunately, Yugioh has games dating back decades now that you can pick the era you like and have a fun time. Whether with straight cards or the setting/characters (Falsebound Kingdom, Reshef of Destruction, etc.). I've played a shit ton in the pre-GX era and there are many solid titles in their own right.

In fact the "old school" Yugioh was so good and beloved the mobile game Duel Links was marketed as literally just that and made insane money from it, until they progressed into newer and lost most of the audience the exact same way.

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– Familiarwobble17 [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

This is exactly what I noticed from the forefront. I'm okay with it though and learning the newer stuff like pendulums etc may be fun. (Maybe I'm wrong)

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– Adamrises 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

The problem, IMO, with the newer stuff is it over pushes complete deck synergy and absurdly long turns/short duels. The joke is that going over turn 3 is unheard of because you are going to mill half your deck per turn (or all of it) to get the perfect combo to insta win, or your opponent will.

This pushes down using cards you like, and especially older cards that haven't been given "updated support" to be made viable. You are meta or you lose, basically. No strategy, just pre-game and a touch of luck.

That's why I prefer the old stuff, you could just enjoy beatsticks and slow grinding down your opponent and that was viable. I used to run a Legendary Ocean/Gravity Bind deck for that purpose.

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– Familiarwobble17 [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

You have basically articulated what I just learned from varying sources to be the case. I may play some form of goat format so I can enjoy long drawn out games(I was a control player in mtg). The new yugioh seems a bit fast relative to how I want to enjoy my game

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– Adamrises 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

If you want to try out a few games before trying to track down physical cards to play with I'd recommend "Yu-Gi-Oh! Worldwide Edition: Stairway to the Destined Duel" or "Yu-Gi-Oh! The Eternal Duelist Soul" for a GBA emulator. Both are no nonsense straight dueling back from the original years. There are a bunch more but those two I physically owned and know the value of.

Alternatively "The Sacred Cards" and "Reshef of Destruction" also exist, and have their own unique rule set that is extremely fun and much more strategic. Never used the ruleset again sadly.

Regardless, there is a reason why despite most people having quit over a decade ago, we still have a fondness for the game and play around with games that bring back that oldness. It was a genuinely good card game that was far easier to get into than MTG.

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