I wonder if recent events will cause nations that normally depend on the US to distance themselves and become more nationalist. Or, worst case, they turn to China.
Obidenbama already broke a defense treaty held with the Philippines when they failed to take action against Chinese intrusion.
Biden becoming President basically just pushed all SEA government to lean further and further towards China. We already had issues with Korea, now they're going to escalate.
Man Americans are so fucking stupid, and the media is so incredibly bad it's amazing. Nobody has any idea what the hell they're doing or talking about.
It is at least fun watching the horror slowly creep into people's faces as I explain to them with things like above just how bad a Biden presidency is for America. The best is when I point out that his entire cabinet is bankers and lobbyists, and then note that Biden was also one of the major voices opposed to the single payer option in Obamacare.
I can't really give you a direct link to an article because they all either really suck or don't give a complete picture. You can Google it but I wouldn't recommend the articles. The first article is an NYT article written by a gonzo wannabe that goes on way too fucking long about shit that doesn't matter, for example.
Basically the gist is this:
The US and the Philippines signed a joint defense pact in 1951.
I'm sure you've heard of the consternation over the "South China Sea?" Basically China lays claim to their famous "nine dash" region which pretty much claims all territorial waters of other states in the region.
Starting around 2010 China began making movements into occupying those waters which they claim. It came to a standoff sometime in 2013 at a place we call "Scarborough Shoal" where Philippine and Chinese warships were both deployed.
Wasn't just Philippines, by the way. Took over islands claimed by pretty much every other state in the region.
Obama's State Department negotiates a ceasefire and a stand down agreement, where both parties would leave while negotiations were ongoing.
Philippines left, China stayed. The US just waved it off and didn't care.
Funnily enough Obama the very next year signed an updated defense pact... and almost immediately abandoned it. China continued fortifying their position on those islands and today they're all military bases with missile installations.
He basically showed to the world that the US is a paper tiger. This combined with his administration actively funding and opening up economic channels with China really, really, really fucked us.
It started under Clinton, by the way, continued under Bush, and was worsened under Obama. Generally it was all the same exact people acting as advisers saying that trade with China was good.
I'm not surprised there aren't great articles with how the media is. I know someone who is somehow a Taiwanese nationalist and has extreme TDS, and thinks things will be fine or even improve with Biden. I've asked his opinion about the rising tensions in the South China Sea, he somehow thinks Biden will turn it around. I don't know how often he's in Taiwan, but I know he's been in the US for 20+ years now. I may try bringing up this pact next time.
Sadly I think Taiwan's days are numbered, I was reading a 4chan post about how Taiwan has all of these advantages over China but it also seemed dependent on international support for Taiwan, which I increasingly doubt will be present under Biden.
I wonder if recent events will cause nations that normally depend on the US to distance themselves and become more nationalist. Or, worst case, they turn to China.
Already has.
Obidenbama already broke a defense treaty held with the Philippines when they failed to take action against Chinese intrusion.
Biden becoming President basically just pushed all SEA government to lean further and further towards China. We already had issues with Korea, now they're going to escalate.
Man Americans are so fucking stupid, and the media is so incredibly bad it's amazing. Nobody has any idea what the hell they're doing or talking about.
It is at least fun watching the horror slowly creep into people's faces as I explain to them with things like above just how bad a Biden presidency is for America. The best is when I point out that his entire cabinet is bankers and lobbyists, and then note that Biden was also one of the major voices opposed to the single payer option in Obamacare.
Do you have like for them breaking the defense treaty? I'd like to send that to someone
I can't really give you a direct link to an article because they all either really suck or don't give a complete picture. You can Google it but I wouldn't recommend the articles. The first article is an NYT article written by a gonzo wannabe that goes on way too fucking long about shit that doesn't matter, for example.
Basically the gist is this:
The US and the Philippines signed a joint defense pact in 1951.
I'm sure you've heard of the consternation over the "South China Sea?" Basically China lays claim to their famous "nine dash" region which pretty much claims all territorial waters of other states in the region.
Starting around 2010 China began making movements into occupying those waters which they claim. It came to a standoff sometime in 2013 at a place we call "Scarborough Shoal" where Philippine and Chinese warships were both deployed.
Wasn't just Philippines, by the way. Took over islands claimed by pretty much every other state in the region.
Obama's State Department negotiates a ceasefire and a stand down agreement, where both parties would leave while negotiations were ongoing.
Philippines left, China stayed. The US just waved it off and didn't care.
Funnily enough Obama the very next year signed an updated defense pact... and almost immediately abandoned it. China continued fortifying their position on those islands and today they're all military bases with missile installations.
He basically showed to the world that the US is a paper tiger. This combined with his administration actively funding and opening up economic channels with China really, really, really fucked us.
It started under Clinton, by the way, continued under Bush, and was worsened under Obama. Generally it was all the same exact people acting as advisers saying that trade with China was good.
At this point we're basically fucked.
I'm not surprised there aren't great articles with how the media is. I know someone who is somehow a Taiwanese nationalist and has extreme TDS, and thinks things will be fine or even improve with Biden. I've asked his opinion about the rising tensions in the South China Sea, he somehow thinks Biden will turn it around. I don't know how often he's in Taiwan, but I know he's been in the US for 20+ years now. I may try bringing up this pact next time. Sadly I think Taiwan's days are numbered, I was reading a 4chan post about how Taiwan has all of these advantages over China but it also seemed dependent on international support for Taiwan, which I increasingly doubt will be present under Biden.