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wotfan 9 points ago +9 / -0

One more thing: about the characters being Asians: the first time Jordan uses the expression 'slanted eyes' is in Book 2, ch. 18., so ...

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wotfan 13 points ago +13 / -0

I bet Amazon will say that WOT is breaking records in the whole Solar System (just any show in these days), but Amazon, Netflix etc never release any exact data about their shows. Never. And their woke shows (do they make anything else?) always fail/flop.

It will be a bad memory/dream by 2025, and it will be completely forgotten by 2030.

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wotfan 11 points ago +11 / -0

Exactly!

I don't know, I see a PATTERN in Robert Jordan's casting choices, and I see an identical PATTERN in the text: the main cast is WHITE.

Many readers do not understand that Elaida was wrong when she said what she said in TEOTW. There's a similar mistake in 'black-eyed Aielmen', many characters in the books really believe this statement (which is untrue), but many readers do not care the description of the characters, according to them everybody is black, except in Andor, but many readers say nowadays that even that's not true, because there are maybe a dozen (or rather a half-dozen) white people in Randland, and everybody else is black. I think Robert Jordan (and Tolkien, and GRRM etc) himself will be described as a black lesbian (what is the latest fashion, nonbinary or what?) in a few months/years.

(By the way, see the case of Rowling vs HP fansites from last year: 'Two of the biggest Harry Potter fan sites remove photos of JK Rowling and links to her website because of her 'harmful and disproven beliefs' amid 'transphobia' row. The Leaky Cauldron and Mugglenet, who have 1 million followers, have issued a joint statement distancing themselves from the Harry Potter author')

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wotfan 22 points ago +22 / -0

Hear, hear!

The showrunner stated many times that the 'books are dated' [???], so it is a must to rewrite them to the irrecognizability, because the 'modern audience' wants to watch a modernised version. They will not use Robert Jordan's story (???), his descriptions (???), his dialogues (???) etc., it will be WOT in name only.

'They will walk away with their pay, far above the pay rate of the average Walmart greeter who, frankly, could have done a better job of it. And they will find another property to destroy, to continue earning their keep, rewarded for their efforts even as failure dogs their every decision, every action, every choice.'

Perfect conclusion. Sadly.

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wotfan 20 points ago +20 / -0

A great comment by Pavelov:

'Well, this kind of comment makes me recognize how really really poor the average persons reading comprehension is. I'll spare all the more difficult to grasp, and arguably ambiguous parts, and quote a line most people should be able to follow.

"She [Egwene] wore red wildroses twined in her hair, flowing about her shoulders. She held her cloak close, dark blue and embroidered along the edge with a thin line of white flowers in the Shienaran fashion, and the blossoms made a line straight up to her face. They were no paler than her cheeks; her eyes seemed so large and dark."'

And there are many more really subtle remark in the books just like this one above.

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wotfan 1 point ago +1 / -0

Spoilers!

Sanderson has NDA until 2023, but he lied so many times between 2008/9-2021...

Sanderson: 'A lot of these are fragments of scenes, a paragraph here and there, or a page of material that he expected to be expanded to a full chapter.'

Sanderson: 'Harriet handed me full creative control for the first draft. But going into it, nothing was off-limits. So I wrote them like I write any novel. Nothing is taken for granted, nothing is sacrosanct.'

Sanderson: 'But if it was Perrin it was me. He had nothing on him except leaving Malden and being in the Last Battle, so I had to fill in everything in between. We had a major issue that I was just doing too much Perrin stuff, because I’d just come off a Perrin book and I love Perrin, and Harriet’s like, 'We’re just doing too much Perrin. Let’s scale back the Perrin.'

Sanderson: 'The thing about the notes is that a lot of the notes were to him, and so he would say things like 'I'm going to do this or this' and they're polar opposites. And so there are sequences like that, where I decide what we're going to do, and stuff like that. And this all is what became the trilogy.'

Sanderson: 'Sometimes Jordan's notes have said two contradictory things 'maybe I'll do this, or maybe I'll do this other completely opposite thing'. He often had to choose between them, or sometimes choose a third thing entirely.'

Dragonmount: 'Hey Terez any thoughts on Jason's statement in a recent interview that the outline was done by Harriet not RJ? That was the first I'd heard of that and was curious if you knew how it worked?

Terez: We've been told several times by Brandon that Alan was the outline guy, and Maria assisted him. I think Harriet gets technical credit sometimes for what Alan and Maria do, which is not to say that Harriet's own contributions aren't essential.'

Dragonmount: 'In the interviews that were posted this week, Brandon said he wrote Egwene's death scene [Jordan was undecided about it, just as in the case of Bela, Siuan etc or in the case of Aviendha, Galad etc], came up with Lan's final scene in ToM, and that it had been his idea to reunite Rand with Tam. Now that the final book is out, I have a feeling we're going to hear more about who wrote what, and that many fans will be surprised at how much Brandon had to come up with on his own. '

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wotfan 24 points ago +24 / -0

Robert Jordan's casting choices:

Rand: a young Ben Affleck

Mat: James Garner at age 21

Perrin: a young Val Kilmer

Egwene: Audrey Hepburn at age 18

Nynaeve: a young Jacqueline Bisset

Aviendha: a young Sophia Loren

Elayne: Nicole Kidman at age 18

Min: Isabella Rossellini

Tuon: Halle Berry

Moiraine: Hedy Lamarr

Lan: Liam Neeson in one of his craggier roles

Birgitte: Lucy Lawless of Xena

Faile: Cher at age 19

Thom: Patrick Stewart with hair

Verin: a young Margaret Rutherford

Siuan (after stilling): Renee Zellweger (before appearance change)

Gareth Bryne: a combination Charlton Heston and John Wayne

Morgase: Michelle Pfeiffer

Berelain: Isabelle Adjani

Padan Fain: Alan Rickman

Semirhage: Naomi Campbell or Tyra Banks

Demandred: Omar Sharif

Lanfear: a younger Catherine Deneuve

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wotfan 24 points ago +24 / -0

'Egwene's cheeks turning pink'

'[Egwene's] face went as white as snow'

'to hide her [Egwene's] crimson face'

'For some reason, Elisa's [Egwene's sister] face turned bright red. Very bright red.'

'Her [Egwene's] face was still red, yet already it looked… Not until she was sure that her face was no longer red. There seemed a strong resemblance between her bottom and a blazing fireplace right at that moment. Yet looking into the mirror, she saw an unruffled face. Red-cheeked, but calm.'

'Now, except for her [Egwene's] big dark eyes, she could almost have passed as an Aiel woman, and not only for her tanned face and hands.'

'Elayne knew her cheeks were red', 'reddened her [Elayne's] cheeks', 'Elayne's face went crimson'

'if Elayne blushed like a sunset, Nynaeve blushed for two'

'Nynaeve said in a stiff voice. The red still colored her face.'

'Spots of color blooming in Nynaeve’s cheeks told him he had hit the mark squarely.'

'Nynaeve’s deep brown eyes stared through her. Her knuckles were white on a thick braid as dark as Birgitte’s was golden, and her face had gone beyond pale to a faint green.'

'Nynaeve's face went white.'

'Slowly Nynaeve’s face turned purple'

'Nynaeve’s face flashed pure scarlet'

'Nynaeve's face had gone white'

'Nynaeve's face was a white mask of determination'

'Nynaeve's face paled for a moment'

'Nynaeve's face went white'

'That insufferable smile slid greasily off Nynaeve's face, replaced by bright spots of color in her cheeks.'

'Nynaeve went pale'

'Faile red-cheeked', 'face went bright red'

'Berelain's face went white and red'

'Perrin blushed very red'

'Mat and Perrin, with their faces white'

'Mat's face paled', 'Mat's face reddened'

'Startled, he [Perrin] stared at her, then at his own bare chest. It was a mass of color, the newer, purple blotches overlaying older ones faded into shades of brown and yellow. The purple splotches faded to brown, and the brown and yellow paled, some disappearing altogether.'

'She said he [Perrin] looked like death on a winter morning' 'The gray-haired Cairhienin and the young Mayener [who is white] wore faces like death' [death was white in the paintings etc]

'Cenn's face went red as a beet'

'Siuan half-raised a hand to her throat; a tiny line of red on the fair skin marked where his blade had rested.'

'The redness spread to cover nearly Siuan’s whole face; with her fair skin, it made her look like a sunset.'

'A pinkness in her [Siuan's] cheeks gave her away, though.'

(Elayne blushed like a sunset, Nynaeve blushed for two; Nynaeve’s face as it reddened to shame two sunsets. Maybe three; Ten sunsets would not have done for Mat's face; Fiery sunsets paled beside Aviendha’s face; Reanne blushed a sunset [Reanne swayed, white-faced])

'Nynaeve saw faces as pale as that of any Andorman [main characters are from Andor] and as dark as that of any of the Sea Folk.'

'Swallowing, she [Aviendha] turned back more swiftly than she had turned away. She thought her cheeks must be greener than Nynaeve’s had been.'

'This far north in Altara, they were fair rather than olive-complected, and some even had blue eyes, but all stumbled along in a daze.'

Pedron Niall: 'A gray-eyed youth with reddish hair. He looked tall, but it was hard to say for certain. Aside from the hair and the eyes, he could have been set down in any town without exciting comment.'

Edorion who is described as pink-cheeked and plump (Mat's pov, Rand's pov), then he still pink-cheeked but not quite so plump as he had been (Rand's pov), then he became harder and sun-dark since coming north (Mat's pov), and according to Tuon Edorion is a dark, lean man.

porcelain in WOT: white, green, blue, yellow, red, golden, silver (+ glazed)

'Berelain spoke with a porcelain-faced'

"A sister has to trust her Warder's judgment sometimes," Nynaeve said coolly, drawing on her gloves. Her [Nynaeve's] face belonged on a porcelain doll for all the emotion it displayed.

Her [Lelaine - The most ashen faces belonged to the three who had dared sit in a rebel Hall for the now-dissolved Blue. / Lelaine’s face paled with fury. / Lelaine’s face paled differently.] face might have been cast in porcelain.

'She [Tuon] looked like a doll made of black porcelain' [Mat's POV] 'Tuon looked up at him through her eyelashes, a black porcelain doll' [Mat's POV]

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wotfan 17 points ago +17 / -0

In the books ALL OF THEM are white. WHITE.

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wotfan 2 points ago +5 / -3

Sanderson cannot write, he's basically illiterate.

According to Sanderson, Jordan did not left anything except a few paragraphs and short sentences (there was no outline, no ending scene - you could look it up old forums etc), ergo his books are fan fictions.

Finish the series with Lord of Chaos, and there's no problem for you. (You could read up to Knife of Dreams, there are many extremely good scenes and plot in book 7-11).

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