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Listen to this BBC documentary gas light anime and manga between 1:25 and 1:40 when tackling the subject of teen idols in Japan. (youtu.be)
posted 5 years ago by davidverner 5 years ago by davidverner +25 / -0
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– smashyawaro 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

Japan actually does have a huge problem with the sexualization of children.

Children or teens? Lolicon is still a derogatory term among the general population.

Kasumi has been 15 forever and it doesn't do anything for the story

Everyone in DOA is minimum 18 ever since Dimensions ran into release issues.

Read GTO, Initial D, and some others. Also watch crime J-Dramas. It is a big part of the culture over there.

The US used to have tons of movies with nudity in high school settings. One of Johnny Depp's first breakout roles had him giving drugs to his friend to get a prudish girl horny enough to sleep with.

For all this, Japan still has a very low incidence of rape and nowhere near the levels of human trafficking we have in the US.

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– davidverner [S] 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Ahhh yes the old 80s and 70s classic R movies. Porky's was a funny one that still gives me laughs to this day.

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– smashyawaro 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Even American Pie had "high school" nudity. I don't think anyone went out and raped girls because of these movies. His attitude is how you start getting moral censorship based on spurious claims with no data.

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– jubyeonin 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Both, and being derogatory doesn't necessarily mean it's not accepted to some extent.

Kasumi being under 18 is a real issue. The game was directed with this in mind. Subsequent games didn't change anything until problems with localization, i.e. clashing with other cultures and laws.

The US still does that and also treats college like a never-ending frat party, but that's not what this is about.

Japan is mostly homogenous, is a small country, and doesn't deal with "migrants" and blackmail trading as much as the US. Human trafficking and the kind of rape we have here are very different because we are very different countries in many ways.

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– smashyawaro 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

My point is that I would be more concerned if the culture was borne out in the statistics.

We all know Muslims have a very conservative culture but have actual rape issues involving women and children. I'm not going to act like I know what causes harm without evidence first.

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– jubyeonin 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

The Muslim "conservative culture" has the rape issues ingrained in it. The evidence there is the religion and the culture itself. You keep bringing up unrelated issues.

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– smashyawaro 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Are Muslim women sexualized in Pakistan/Iranian/etc media? I mean, we can bring this discussion to violence in the media as well. You need to provide some numbers if you do. Otherwise we get into the "guns in video games encourage gun violence" argument.

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