I've created a list of rules as below, they will likely change later, but they are here for the purposes of establishing a base level of social order:
ONE: Do not post Illegal Activity. Also, do not post any manifesto's done by terrorists, active shooters, serial felons rationalizing such things, or promoting such things, even if your content does not endorse the message.
TWO: Do not engage in speech that promotes, advocates, glorifies, or endorses violence.
THREE: Do not threaten, harass, or bully users; and do not encourage others to do so on or off-line; nor make per se defamatory states at users.
FOUR: Do not post ISM. Involuntary Salacious Material means NSFW material of a manner that was not intentionally made public. This is the "upskirt", "revenge porn", and "private intimate photos" rule.
FIVE: Do not post Porn
SIX: Content that contains nudity, pornography, or profanity, which a reasonable viewer may not want to be seen accessing in a public or formal setting such as in a workplace should be tagged as NSFW. Any material of a titillating nature must be marked NSFW.
SEVEN: Do not post Facebook accounts, individuals who's twitters are less than 500 followers, private/personal information that is not publicly available, addresses, or participate, encourage, or engage in any doxxing campaign.
EIGHT: Do not intentionally deceive others by impersonating another. This does not apply to satire.
NINE: No person shall use communities.win sites (including kotakuinaction2.win) to solicit, facilitate any transaction, or gift including: ... ATF defined firearms or ammo as defined by the ATF, Bump-stock type devices, Explosives, 3D printing files to produce the aforementioned, controlled substances, Drugs, Alcohol, Tobacco, Stolen goods, Paid services involving physical sexual contact, Personal Information, Falsified Official Documents, Falsified Currency, Fraudulent Services, Pharmaceuticals
TEN: No vote manipulation. Do not break communities.win's features.
ELEVEN: Do not post spam. If you are self-advertising, you must have sufficiently engaged in the sub prior to your post, and you must engage with the users when they comment in your post. Spam will also include repeated messages and comments that are done with no effort to add to the conversation.
TWELVE: Do not post intentional falsehoods or hoaxes. Yes, the Elders of Zion and other such intentionally fabricated documents fall into this. If your POST is arguably false by the user-base, it may be marked as either misleading or unfounded based on it's factual assertions, particularly in the title.
THIRTEEN: If you have reposted something, it will be removed
FOURTEEN: Do not post more than 5 posts a day to this sub.
FIFTEEN: Do not direct particularly egregious identity based slurs at users. A list will be provided
SIXTEEN: Do not attack entire identity groups as inferior, subhuman, inherently morally deficient, biologically/evolutionary mongrel, or participating in a vast conspiracy to take over the world, ala ZOG-NWO / The Patriarchy.
Rule 12 is bad because it's incredibly subjective and biased. Please just get rid of it and let the userbase decide without a heavy-handed ban excuse built in. We're smart enough to downvote virgin flat earthers and upvote chad hollow earthers.
Rule 16 is incredibly bad and shuts down discussion. Without needing to care about cucked Reddit admins we don't need it.
Rule 4, 5, and six are the same thing.
Rule 2 is dumb when it kills memes like giving commies helicopter rides, or real discussion on advising people of their legal right to shoot looters.
The part of Rule 1 forbidding discussion on the manifestos/posts of notorious shooters isn't needed now we're off Reddit. Some of them contain very interesting discussion topics, like Ted Kaczynski's.
Rule 15 should just be a part of Rule 3.
I think a line needs to exist somewhere because if I don't draw one there will be a serious problem with people spreading open disinformation, even without them knowing it. Frankly, when there are concerted propaganda efforts, dissent is downvoted to oblivion in order to stifle it.
I do not intend for this place to be a foothold for Stormfront. When you mix this with rule 12, repealing both exists for the purposes of advancing propaganda offensives.
No they're not.
I'm using the real definition of those words, not the reddit definitions of those words. Meme away
Seriously, where's my Ken & Karen memes. Those were great.
It's reasonable to discuss historical documents, but I'm more worried about people posting "hot off the presses" shooter manifestos because we've seen major international action taken against sites that allow for it.
Rule 15 & 3 are different things, though.
I get that you need to have the ability to shut down crazy shit if it for some reason starts to pop up, due to astroturfing or some campaign.
That's fine.
My big issue is the rule as stated can directly be used to shut down conversations. I mean the example given is the Protocols, which can be a great platform for discussion going in many different ways. I've never met anyone who thinks it's 100% factual telling of an exact event that went down. It's a work of fiction meant to shed light on some of the shadowy parts of global geopolitics, and it applies to more groups than just Jews.
As a side example, anti-vaxxers. Most of them are either crazy or stupid. That doesn't mean there aren't arguments to be made about vaccine safety, usefulness, or Bill Gates conspiracies. Just that some people are fucking crazy and/or stupid.
I don't think anyone wants that lol.
My big issue is that it should be part of a general harrassment type rule instead of its own big thing.
We should always be allowed to criticize whatever person or group, but it shouldn't just be boring and lazy attacks.
"Blacks are dumb and they smell." is bad. "The average IQ of American blacks is very low." is good as part of a greater discussion, however if that's the entire post it's still just a lazy attack.
They all fall under the "No porn/sexually explicit content." rule, don't they?
I'm just wondering why they're needed past that.
Cool.
On that note, is advocating for people to arm and get weapons training considered advocating for violence?
Yeah like I said to AoV I understand there's been issues with that specifically. As long as discussion and quotes are allowed, maybe without directly hosting/top-level linking the content it'd be fine?
Same thing as 16, it just seems like it'd be better off as part of a more general harassment rule.
I'll always argue that the fewer the rules, the better. Much of what it is above can be consolidated and instead of 16, maybe 7-9.
I agree. Let people make use of the downvote button if they don't like something. We don't need to be coddled.