I enjoyed the Panderverse episode but I think they got the cause and effect wrong. Blaming Kathleen Kennedy whilst ignoring ESG seems to miss the point completely.
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Trey and Matt are getting old. While they still keep a finger on the pulse of current events, they aren't going to be as in the know as they used to be. The weight of the world eventually makes a person less attentive to more minute details. As time goes on their views will get more and more surface level. I can't really blame them.. the crushing wheel of life is in constant motion.
I also get the feeling that both of them aren't working together on episodes.
I think Trey checked out long ago - he's more the business guy anyway