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posted 1 year ago by FatalConceit 1 year ago by FatalConceit +18 / -4

The death toll from the Israeli occupation on both sides since 1970 is not easy to calculate, as different sources may have different definitions, methods, and data. However, based on the web search results that I found, I can provide some estimates and ranges for the number of fatalities.

According to B'Tselem, an Israeli human rights organization, between December 9th 1987 and April 30th 2021, the conflict claimed 13,969 lives, of which 87% were Palestinian³. The recent violence in May 2021 adds another 256 deaths, bringing the total to over 14,000³.

According to ProCon.org, a nonpartisan research organization, between September 29th 2000 and July 7th 2014, the conflict resulted in 9,480 deaths, of which 78% were Palestinian⁴.

According to Wikipedia, the War of Attrition (1967-1970) caused at least 100 Palestinian deaths². The Black September in Jordan (1970-1971) caused about 3,400 Palestinian deaths². The Lebanese Civil War (1975-1990) caused thousands of Palestinian deaths². The First Intifada (1987-1993) caused about 2,000 Palestinian deaths and 277 Israeli deaths². The Second Intifada (2000-2005) caused about 3,000 Palestinian deaths and 1,000 Israeli deaths². The Gaza War (2008-2009) caused about 1,400 Palestinian deaths and 13 Israeli deaths². The Gaza War (2014) caused about 2,200 Palestinian deaths and 73 Israeli deaths². The Gaza War (2021) caused about 250 Palestinian deaths and 13 Israeli deaths².

Based on these sources, the approximate death toll from the Israeli occupation on both sides since 1970 is:

Palestinian: between 24,000 and 28,000.
Israeli: between 1,500 and 2,000.

These numbers are only estimates and may not reflect the full extent of the human suffering and loss caused by the conflict. They also do not include the casualties from other actors involved in the conflict, such as Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and others.

Source: Conversation with Bing, 10/10/2023 (1) The Israel-Palestine conflict has claimed 14,000 lives since 1987. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/05/18/the-israel-palestine-conflict-has-claimed-14000-lives-since-1987. (2) Deaths in the Conflict - Israeli-Palestinian - ProCon.org. https://israelipalestinian.procon.org/deaths-in-the-conflict/. (3) Palestinian casualties of war - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_casualties_of_war. (4) History of the Israeli-Palestine conflict: A chronology - The .... https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/israel-palestine-conflict-timeline-history-explained/. (5) Israeli–Lebanese conflict - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Lebanese_conflict.

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– FatalConceit [S] -4 points 1 year ago +6 / -10

The jews believe they have a right to Gaza, West Bank Palestine - they've been planning the wipe out of the Arabs for ages.

There are many prophecies in the Bible that relate to the future Jewish homeland, especially regarding its geographical limits. Some of the prophecies are:

God promised to Abraham that He would give him and his descendants the land from the river of Egypt to the great river Euphrates (Genesis 15:18). This land would include parts of modern-day Egypt, Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait¹.
God also promised to Isaac and Jacob that He would give them and their descendants the same land as He promised to Abraham (Genesis 26:3-4; Genesis 28:13-14). This land would be an everlasting possession for them and their seed after them (Genesis 17:8; Genesis 48:4).
God told Moses that He would bring the Israelites out of Egypt and into the land that He swore to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Exodus 6:8). This land would flow with milk and honey (Exodus 3:8) and would have boundaries from the Red Sea to the sea of the Philistines (the Mediterranean Sea), and from the desert to the river (the Euphrates River) (Exodus 23:31).
God instructed Joshua to divide the land among the twelve tribes of Israel according to their inheritance (Joshua 13:1-33; Joshua 14:1-5; Joshua 15:1-63; Joshua 16:1-10; Joshua 17:1-18; Joshua 18:1-28; Joshua 19:1-51). The land was roughly divided into two parts by the Jordan River, with nine and a half tribes on the west side and two and a half tribes on the east side. The land included parts of modern-day Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria².
God revealed to Ezekiel that He would gather the scattered people of Israel from among the nations and bring them back to their own land in the last days (Ezekiel 37:21-22). He also showed him a vision of how the land would be divided among the twelve tribes of Israel in the future (Ezekiel 47:13-23; Ezekiel 48:1-35). The land would have boundaries from the Mediterranean Sea in the west to the Dead Sea in the east, and from Hamath in the north to Kadesh in the south. The land would also include a special portion for the sanctuary of God, the city of Jerusalem, and the prince of Israel³.
God told Zechariah that He would make Jerusalem a cup of trembling and a burdensome stone for all people who try to move it or attack it in the last days (Zechariah 12:2-3). He also said that He would make Jerusalem a praise in all the earth and that He would dwell in it as King over all the earth (Zechariah 8:3; Zechariah 14:9).
God told Amos that He would restore the tabernacle of David and rebuild it as in the days of old (Amos 9:11). He also said that He would plant His people Israel upon their land and they would never be plucked up again (Amos 9:15).

These are some of the prophecies about the future Jewish homeland, especially regarding its geographical limits. They show that God has a plan and a purpose for His chosen people and His holy land. They also show that God will fulfill His promises and His covenants with His people.

Source: Conversation with Bing, 10/10/2023 (1) War in Israel: A Fulfillment of Bible Prophecy? - Harvest. https://harvest.org/resources/gregs-blog/post/war-in-israel-a-fulfillment-of-bible-prophecy/. (2) Isaiah 40-66: Return and Restoration | My Jewish Learning. https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/isaiah-40-66-return-and-restoration/. (3) Prophecy Fulfilled: The Worldwide Dispersal of the Jewish People. https://jewishprophecies.wordpress.com/2017/03/22/prophecy-fulfilled-the-worldwide-dispersal-of-the-jewish-people/. (4) 7 Prophesies That Will Be Fulfilled Before Jesus Returns. https://www.beliefnet.com/faiths/christianity/7-prophesies-that-will-be-fulfilled-before-jesus-returns.aspx. (5) 8 Biblical Prophecies About Israel That Have Come True. https://www.beliefnet.com/faiths/8-biblical-prophecies-about-israel-that-have-come-true.aspx. (6) An Ancient Bible Prophecy: The Final Return of the Jews To Their Homeland. https://strollingthrougharosegardencalledlife.blog/2020/05/17/an-ancient-bible-prophecy-the-final-return-of-the-jews-to-their-homeland/. (7) The Borders of Israel | Future Borders according to Bible Prophecy. https://www.factsaboutisrael.uk/future-borders-of-israel-in-prophecy/. (8) Judaism - Prophecy, Cult, Reform | Britannica. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Judaism/The-period-of-classical-prophecy-and-cult-reform. (9) Gathering of Israel - Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gathering_of_Israel.

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– novanleon 2 points 1 year ago +3 / -1

I don't see how any of this is relevant. The current conflict was started by Hamas and the Palestinians. Whatever happens to them afterwards is their own fault.

I feel very bad for the few innocent Palestinians (mostly the children) who may be collateral damage, but war is brutal and a nation can't allow a tiger to sleep next to the crib... especially not one that just ate one of your children.

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