I've been saying they were trying to get them from the beginning. You're hyperfocusing on one line and ignoring the adjacent lines for a socal media "W."
That's not what you said.
The Ukraine kept threatening to point nukes at Moscow,
Remember this? This is what you said.
The Ukraine is a puppet state run by their enemies, and now NATO's trying to make their relationship official. T
Ukraine is a puppet state of Russia?! That is new!
The puppet state says they're going to get nukes, threatens Russia with what they'll do when they get them
Do you have any source for that?
has existed long after its original purpose has become irrelevant,
Irrelevant? Remember, Russia has been invading countries for years. And the invasion of Moldova, Georgia and now Ukraine proves that NATO is more relevant than ever.
ou literally quoted me saying what I just said they threatened.
Cool, with what nukes?
. I notice you've ignored my many quotes saying they were demanding nukes once they officially joined NATO
Source?
You're going to move the goalposts, I think.
Noine that involves government control.
. Once it ended, trying to surround them with hostile vassal states shouldn't have happened.
Cool. Explain Georgia, Moldova(who didn't even apply to NATO before), and Ukraine(predating their current NATO application by 8 years). You also must explain why should Russia control these countries, choosing what they can and can not do.
Read his speech, found nothing. This is the closest it comes with the use of the word "nuclear" and does not even say anything you claimed.
Otherwise - who's next? Will NATO countries have to defend each other? I want to believe that the North Atlantic Treaty and Article 5 will be more effective than the Budapest Memorandum.
Ukraine has received security guarantees for abandoning the world's third nuclear capability. We don't have that weapon. We also have no security. We also do not have part of the territory of our state that is larger in area than Switzerland, the Netherlands or Belgium. And most importantly - we don’t have millions of our citizens. We don’t have all this.
So I ask again for evidence. He even mentioned the Budapest Memorandum, which I already mentioned before.
That's not what you said.
Remember this? This is what you said.
Ukraine is a puppet state of Russia?! That is new!
Do you have any source for that?
Irrelevant? Remember, Russia has been invading countries for years. And the invasion of Moldova, Georgia and now Ukraine proves that NATO is more relevant than ever.
Cool, with what nukes?
Source?
Noine that involves government control.
Cool. Explain Georgia, Moldova(who didn't even apply to NATO before), and Ukraine(predating their current NATO application by 8 years). You also must explain why should Russia control these countries, choosing what they can and can not do.
Read his speech, found nothing. This is the closest it comes with the use of the word "nuclear" and does not even say anything you claimed.
So I ask again for evidence. He even mentioned the Budapest Memorandum, which I already mentioned before.