my concern is that the american culture is getting too dilute as it is. Too many people, admittedly good people, are coming here with different cultural values and ideals for them to fully assimilate with any speed. This is leading to ghettos and balkanizing when we desperately need to unify around core beliefs and values.
I'm reminded of a dream sequence from Batman: The Animated Series(1992-1995). In the episode "The Forgotten," Bruce Wayne Dreams he is standing outside of a homeless shelter, and a homeless man comes up to him, begging for money, so Bruce takes out some money and gives it to the man, then more homeless people arrive, hands out, and the rich man begins giving them money as fast as he can. soon he is surrounded by poor, hungry people, more appearing faster than he can help them. In the end, Bruce Wayne weeps, because he cannot help them all. This is the best metaphor I can think of for the situation we're in. We can't save everyone, no matter how much we want to.
That being said, these people did come here legally, so I'm not advocating for throwing them out, but I am saying we shouldn't be paying them more than we pay American workers, nor should they be replacing American workers.
my concern is that the american culture is getting too dilute as it is. Too many people, admittedly good people, are coming here with different cultural values and ideals for them to fully assimilate with any speed. This is leading to ghettos and balkanizing when we desperately need to unify around core beliefs and values.
Is that true for South Africans? Serious question, I don't know much about their culture or beliefs.
I'm reminded of a dream sequence from Batman: The Animated Series(1992-1995). In the episode "The Forgotten," Bruce Wayne Dreams he is standing outside of a homeless shelter, and a homeless man comes up to him, begging for money, so Bruce takes out some money and gives it to the man, then more homeless people arrive, hands out, and the rich man begins giving them money as fast as he can. soon he is surrounded by poor, hungry people, more appearing faster than he can help them. In the end, Bruce Wayne weeps, because he cannot help them all. This is the best metaphor I can think of for the situation we're in. We can't save everyone, no matter how much we want to.
Sure but if they are coming as harvesters or farmers, they will end up paying their own way and maybe creating jobs. Doesn't mean we can save everyone or should have the desire to, but this may not hurt as much as you might think.
That being said, these people did come here legally, so I'm not advocating for throwing them out, but I am saying we shouldn't be paying them more than we pay American workers, nor should they be replacing American workers.
Do we know the entire story though? For example, are the people currently working the fields doing a good job or a poor one? I mean just consider the idea of importing foreign workers and paying them more than the ones you already have. How does that make any business sense?
The South Africans arrived in the region willing to work weeks that sometimes stretched to 75 hours or more, grueling schedules that might have been difficult for older local workers to maintain, industry analysts said.
Oh, that's interesting. Maybe they made them work harder than the regular workers. Also the regular works seem to be older, and perhaps not able to do the job a younger worker would do.
They must pay them an hourly wage that is set by the Labor Department and varies from state to state, as well as their transportation and housing.
That is the interesting quote from the article. It seems like they may not have had a choice in this case. Who knows? The article focused more on race than anything else, so it was light on details.
You bring up some good points, but I will say the labor department shouldn't be incentivising paying foreign workers more than Americans.
It does seem as though there may be some British influence on the country, which is promising, given our own legal and cultural system is based in English Common Law, but I'm not sure how much their values reflect that influence. I suppose I'd have to do a lot more research to be sure, but your point in this regard stands.
But seriously, I don't like American workers being replaced with white south africans anymore than I like them being replaced with white hispanics.
I’d agree normally, but these guys are being genocided, and they are European so assimilation or welfare won’t be a problem.
my concern is that the american culture is getting too dilute as it is. Too many people, admittedly good people, are coming here with different cultural values and ideals for them to fully assimilate with any speed. This is leading to ghettos and balkanizing when we desperately need to unify around core beliefs and values.
I'm reminded of a dream sequence from Batman: The Animated Series(1992-1995). In the episode "The Forgotten," Bruce Wayne Dreams he is standing outside of a homeless shelter, and a homeless man comes up to him, begging for money, so Bruce takes out some money and gives it to the man, then more homeless people arrive, hands out, and the rich man begins giving them money as fast as he can. soon he is surrounded by poor, hungry people, more appearing faster than he can help them. In the end, Bruce Wayne weeps, because he cannot help them all. This is the best metaphor I can think of for the situation we're in. We can't save everyone, no matter how much we want to.
That being said, these people did come here legally, so I'm not advocating for throwing them out, but I am saying we shouldn't be paying them more than we pay American workers, nor should they be replacing American workers.
Is that true for South Africans? Serious question, I don't know much about their culture or beliefs.
Sure but if they are coming as harvesters or farmers, they will end up paying their own way and maybe creating jobs. Doesn't mean we can save everyone or should have the desire to, but this may not hurt as much as you might think.
Do we know the entire story though? For example, are the people currently working the fields doing a good job or a poor one? I mean just consider the idea of importing foreign workers and paying them more than the ones you already have. How does that make any business sense?
Oh, that's interesting. Maybe they made them work harder than the regular workers. Also the regular works seem to be older, and perhaps not able to do the job a younger worker would do.
That is the interesting quote from the article. It seems like they may not have had a choice in this case. Who knows? The article focused more on race than anything else, so it was light on details.
You bring up some good points, but I will say the labor department shouldn't be incentivising paying foreign workers more than Americans.
It does seem as though there may be some British influence on the country, which is promising, given our own legal and cultural system is based in English Common Law, but I'm not sure how much their values reflect that influence. I suppose I'd have to do a lot more research to be sure, but your point in this regard stands.