anyone who wants a complete social collapse is a complete loser. They are a failure in the current system and cant compete. they are envious of successful people and think themselves would have a better chance if they and everyone else started over at zero. They think they could rise to the top that way. They dont understand that those who rose to the top in the current system would do the same again if starting over at zero, and that they would remain at the bottom as they are now.