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– Arkana [S] 39 points 3 years ago +39 / -0

Unfortunately we know that the progressive side will never compromise. If you give them anything it will never be enough. We just wanted to be left alone and enjoy our hobbies, but they had to infect it and obsessively grab for power like everything else.

If your enemy will not compromise, and will lie and slander you at every opportunity, you cannot give any ground. Especially not when something is true like the stolen US election. Trump may have to be "given up" simply for the fact that he was not able to do anything about it though.

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– APDSmith 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

Time and time again, the left has shown that even if individuals know how to compromise - normally when the ideology rams up against something they personally are unable to give up - the ideology simply unpersons that activists and carries on, if anything more shrill than before.

Put simply, as a cult-like phenomena, I'm not sure the SocJus left is capable of giving up anything, much less wants to - particularly not foundational elements of their little cult like the equity talk.

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– tobeornotto 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Exactly.

Giving up on your most sacred beliefs can't be part of a compromise. The proposition makes no sense.

With this Peterson assumes that leftism is good, rational, practical - except these silly fringe things that they can get rid of, and then we can get along.

But the things that are wrong with leftism are at the heart of it. No I'm not talking about calls for more empathy, equality, or solidarity. Look beyond the surface, before the rhetoric, at the motivational levels, at the points of origins. Look at the code the NPCs are running on.

They are not going to compromise with their core assumptions. They're not going to give up on blank slate theory, or consequentialism, or their absolute relativism, or stop reducing everything into foucauldian power struggles.

This is not about what they say they want. No one anywhere is against empathy. It's about what they actually want, which is power.

I'm not against leftism because I can't accept a welfare state. That's a compromise I would be willing to make. There are many functioning social democracies. But social democracies aren't built on postmodern ideas, they don't strive for equity, they don't try to redistribute power at all costs, or sacrifice their futures with hopeless attempts at rectifying their pasts, they aren't socialist, or globalist.

They're generally open, free market economies rooted in national traditions with a moderate amount of regulation - often less than the US. Ideologically they're not majority leftists, they're traditionalists and christians with a welfare state. They're fairly rational, and while I can dissagree with them on many points or believe it's a system that only really works in smaller and more homogenous populations, I don't think they're outright insane.

I'm aginst leftism after realizing that leftists have impossible goals and that they are willing to go to any lenght, no matter how authoritarian and dystopan, to try to achieve them - and since the goals are impossible there is no chance of them stopping before they've created hell on earth, as they've done each and every time before. I'm against it because unchecked liberalism promotes social climbers, sociopaths, bullies, grifters, charlatans, and worse over everyone else.

Leftism is a brain virus that makes the infected angry, miserable, hateful, sadistic, irrational, and turns them into slaves who will say or do anything to further the virus' agenda. How do you compromise with that? You can't.

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– w-duranty6489 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

With this Peterson assumes that leftism is good, rational, practical - except these silly fringe things that they can get rid of,

Leftism is evil.

https://archive.ph/8B9ve https:// www. firstthings. com/article/2020/10/suicide-of-the-liberals

SUICIDE OF THE LIBERALS

by Gary Saul Morson October 2020

Anyone wearing a uniform was a candidate for a bullet to the head or sulfuric acid to the face. Country estates were burnt down (“rural illuminations”) and businesses were extorted or blown up. Bombs were tossed at random into railroad carriages, restaurants, and theaters. Far from regretting the death and maiming of innocent bystanders, terrorists boasted of killing as many as possible, either because the victims were likely bourgeois or because any murder helped bring down the old order. A group of anarcho-communists threw bombs laced with nails into a café bustling with two hundred customers in order “to see how the foul bourgeois will squirm in death agony.”

...One group threw “traitors” into vats of boiling water. Others were still more inventive. Women torturers were especially admired.

How did educated, liberal society respond to such terrorism? What was the position of the Constitutional Democratic (Kadet) Party and its deputies in the Duma (the parliament set up in 1905)? Though Kadets advocated democratic, constitutional procedures, and did not themselves engage in terrorism, they aided the terrorists in any way they could. Kadets collected money for terrorists, turned their homes into safe houses, and called for total amnesty for arrested terrorists who pledged to continue the mayhem.

https://archive.ph/HQJIz https:// www. ironcurtainproject. eu/en/stories/apologies-from-a-minister-president/why-former-stasi-is-treated-with-kid-gloves/

20 Apr 2020 02:54:26 UTC

Why former Stasi is treated with kid gloves

3 minutes By Adinda Akkermans, translation Annemarie van Limpt

“Even GDR dignitaries didn’t end up too badly,” says historian and Stasi expert Willem Melching. “Although ministers and state secretaries were punished for their crimes against humanity, they usually didn’t have to go to prison (long), or were sentenced to community service.” Erick Honecker (party leader from 1970 to 1989) for example, was held responsible for the death of 192 people, but thanks to health problems he was never charged: he moved to Chili. His successor Egon Krenz was sentenced to 6.5 years in prison for giving orders to fire, a fairly lengthy sentence, but was released after three years because he had performed previous community service selling scrapped airplanes to Russia. Stasi chief Erich Mielke was released after two years because of health issues as well. Melching: “West Germany had done business with people like Honecker when the Wall was still in place, so that made more severe punishment embarrassing.”

https://archive.vn/UdIEM

Palmer Report @PalmerReport 3h

People who promote the racist propaganda hate speech on OANN are dangerous thugs. They have no place in respectable society. Mike Gundy cannot remain the OK State head coach. Too influential of a position in society. Fire him, unless he agrees to get extensive psychological help.

It’s time we acknowledge that conservatism isn’t just some political view. It means you’re the very bottom rung of society, dangerous and deranged. Some conservatives are trying to become better people. Great. But people who flaunt their conservatism are psychotic.

Conservatism means you don’t believe in equality. It means you want it all for yourself, and you’re willing to destroy other groups of people to take it all for yourself. That’s not a crime against the law. But it’s a crime against humanity – and we must acknowledge as much.

Conservatives CANNOT be teachers, police officers, doctors, lawyers, coaches, or bosses. It’s constitutionally unfair to others who are subjected to the conservative’s deranged judgment. Conservatives can do menial work, until they’re ready to join the human race.

https://archive.vn/OTWD1 https://www.projectveritas.com/news/pbs-principal-counsel-lays-out-violent-radical-agenda-says-americans-are-f/ JANUARY 12, 2021

PBS Principal Counsel Lays Out Violent Radical Agenda; Says Americans Are ‘F*cking Dumb’ … ‘Go to White House & Throw Molotovs’ … ‘Put [Children] into Re-Education Camps…Watch PBS All Day’ … ‘COVID Spiking in Red States…[Red State Voters] Are Sick & Dying’

[WASHINGTON, D.C. – Jan. 12, 2021] Project Veritas released a new video today exposing Michael Beller, Principal Counsel for The Public Broadcasting Service (PBS), for his statements defending violent attacks on the White House, re-education for the children of Trump supporters and praising the deaths of red state voters as a result of COVID-19.

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– enevold 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

no homo, but i love you for pointing out that social democracy is to the right of national-socialism.

i enjoy asking ppl who gasp at me calling hitler a leftie to provide me with a superlative to call it next to the 'right-extremist' nazis.

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