I'm phoneposting and it's inconvenient to copy/paste the little parts I'm replying to, but I'll go in order at least, kind of.

I agree that the word communism is a boogeyman buzzword. It's lazy to say it has no meaning at all imo tho. Each such word has its core buzzword meaning even stripped down to its bone. For instance in another comment I said that democracy implies "votes are cast". These words get raped, but rape is le real and the taint is forever a part of the lexicon. If "votes are cast" were all you knew whatsoever about democracy you could still understand and blend into a huge % of the overall discussion about it.

I like to take my best stab at what a person means when they misuse a word, rather than argue the word itself. I draw a hard line at tranny stuff and maybe that makes me a hypocrite, but generally I don't want to argue definitions, I want to defend or attack some established or proposed idea. If you had the purity of mind (which I doubt I have personally) you could give me a corrected list of appropriate words and we could just start over with the same argument dressed in all the smoothest trappings.

I think using comparison to old ways of life to try and gatekeep the definition of modern day communism is some form of fallacy, but I can't name it so I won't be cocksure about it. For the sake of giving you an actual counterargument I will say my core rationale in saying so is that it does not scale effectively. I don't have any high and might logical support to whip out for that though. It just seems apparent looking at where/when/why/how that rationale has flourished and w/w/w/h it has failed and caused untold starvation death, for instance.

The same could be said for liberal capitalism (more raped buzzwords) and I'm not exactly trying to offer those concepts as the "solution"or "answer" to the ebil boogeyman of communism. I wanted to bitch because you, or someone, said real democracy cannot exist in a society dominated by money, I am simply defending my bitching and I've not lost sight on that.

I reject how you view "the populace" there is no depoliticalization of the populace, the populace itself fills the spaces in between with its own natural order, which is inherently political. You can have politics engaged in through a lens of religion, of resource management, of merit, or of poop... but you will have it, one way or another.

I agree with your sentiment, that you don't prefer any system, but I don't trust you worth a damn there lol. I have my preferences too but my cope is that these things are determined first and foremost by nature on an astounding scale and that my preferences for x or y grand scale idea mean jack diddly. I believe we would both eat dirt if we got just a little bit of dark wish fulfillment.

Thanks for reading my needlessly long comment and turning it into a justifiably long reply. My vocabulary is failing me a bit here but I really appreciate that.

I'm phoneposting and it's inconvenient to copy/paste the little parts I'm replying to, but I'll go in order at least, kind of.

I agree that the word communism is a boogeyman buzzword. It's lazy to say it has no meaning at all imo tho. Each such word has its core buzzword meaning even stripped down to its bone. For instance in another comment I said that democracy implies "votes are cast". These words get raped, but rape is le real and the taint is forever a part of the lexicon. If "votes are cast" were all you knew whatsoever about democracy you could still understand and blend into a huge % of the overall discussion about it.

I like to take my best stab at what a person means when they misuse a word, rather than argue the word itself. I draw a hard line at tranny stuff and maybe that makes me a hypocrite, but generally I don't want to argue definitions, I want to defend or attack some established or proposed idea. If you had the purity of mind (which I doubt I have personally) you could give me a corrected list of appropriate words and we could just start over with the same argument dressed in all the smoothest trappings.

I think using comparison to old ways of life to try and gatekeep the definition of modern day communism is some form of fallacy, but I can't name it so I won't be cocksure about it. For the sake of giving you an actual counterargument I will say my core rationale in saying so is that it does not scale effectively. I don't have any high and might logical support to whip out for that though. It just seems apparent looking at where/when/why/how that rationale has flourished and w/w/w/h it has failed and caused untold starvation death, for instance.

The same could be said for liberal capitalism (more raped buzzwords) and I'm not exactly trying to offer those concepts as the "solution"or "answer" to the ebil boogeyman of communism. I wanted to bitch because you, or someone, said real democracy cannot exist in a society dominated by money, I am simply defending my bitching and I've not lost sight on that.

I reject how you view "the populace" there is no depoliticalization of the populace, the populace itself fills the spaces in between with its own natural order, which is inherently political. You can have politics engaged in through a lens of religion, of resource management, of merit, or of poop... but you will have it, one way or another.

I agree with your sentiment, that you don't prefer any system, but I don't trust you worth a damn there lol. I have my preferences too but my cope is that these things are determined first and foremost by nature on an astounding scale and that my preferences for x or y grand scale idea mean jack diddly. I believe we would both eat dirt if we got just a little bit of dark wish fulfillment.

Thanks for reading my needlessly long comment My vocabulary is failing me a bit here but I really appreciate that.

I'm phoneposting and it's inconvenient to copy/paste the little parts I' replying to, but I'll go in order and try to be like 20%more brief than usual.

I agree that the word communism is a boogeyman buzzword. It's lazy to say it has no meaning at all imo tho. Each such word has its core buzzword meaning even stripped down to its bone. For instance in another comment I said that democracy implies "votes are cast". These words get raped, but rape is le real and the taint is forever a part of the lexicon. If "votes are cast" were all you knew whatsoever about democracy you could still understand and blend into a huge % of the overall discussion about it.

I like to take my best stab at what a person means when they misuse a word, rather than argue the word itself. I draw a hard line at tranny stuff and maybe that makes me a hypocrite, but generally I don't want to argue definitions, I want to defend or attack some established or proposed idea. If you had the purity of mind (which I doubt I have personally) you could give me a corrected list of appropriate words and we could just start over with the same argument dressed in all the smoothest trappings.

I think using comparison to old ways of life to try and gatekeep the definition of modern day communism is some form of fallacy, but I can't name it so I won't be cocksure about it. For the sake of giving you an actual counterargument I will say my core rationale in saying so is that it does not scale effectively. I don't have any high and might logical support to whip out for that though. It just seems apparent looking at where/when/why/how that rationale has flourished and w/w/w/h it has failed and caused untold starvation death, for instance.

The same could be said for liberal capitalism (more raped buzzwords) and I'm not exactly trying to offer those concepts as the "solution"or "answer" to the ebil boogeyman of communism. I wanted to bitch because you, or someone, said real democracy cannot exist in a society dominated by money, I am simply defending my bitching and I've not lost sight on that.

I reject how you view "the populace" there is no depoliticalization of the populace, the populace itself fills the spaces in between with its own natural order, which is inherently political. You can have politics engaged in through a lens of religion, of resource management, of merit, or of poop... but you will have it, one way or another.

I agree with your sentiment, that you don't prefer any system, but I don't trust you worth a damn there lol. I have my preferences too but my cope is that these things are determined first and foremost by nature on an astounding scale and that my preferences for x or y grand scale idea mean jack diddly. I believe we would both eat dirt if we got just a little bit of dark wish fulfillment.

Thanks for reading my needlessly long comment My vocabulary is failing me a bit here but I really appreciate that.