I get that this sub is anti-vax, but arguments like this are simply wrong:

• every study on the subject proves that vaccination makes a massive difference on the mortality rate if you're old and haven't been infected before.[1] trying to claim that "the difference is so small it is ridiculous" is just flatly a lie. For people 85+ there is a world of difference, a 28% chance of death drops to below 1%.

• The fact that most deaths are among vaxxed does not prove that vaccination does not offer very strong protection

• nearly all deaths are in old people

• old people are vaxxed at much higher rates for the obvious reason that they have more to fear from an unvaxxed infection

• young people are vaxxed at much lower rates for the obvious reason that they have very little to fear from COVID

• when virtually the entire high risk population is vaxxed, obviously most deaths will come from vaxxed people. a vaxxed 90 year old is still much more likely to die than a typical healthy unvaxxed 20 year old.

For high risk people, vaccination is very important, and encouraging high risk people to not get vaxxed by lying to claim it is not effective, is supremely shitty behavior, and stupid to the point of flat eartherism.

[1] quick google search: 1 Vaccines lower risk of death by 34%, data show 2 Vaccinations Cut U.S. COVID Deaths by 58%: Study 3 vaccination reduces the risk of death by over 70%.

I get that this sub is anti-vax, but arguments like this are simply wrong:

• every study on the subject proves that vaccination makes a massive difference on the mortality rate if you're old and haven't been infected before. trying to claim that "the difference is so small it is ridiculous" is just flatly a lie. For people 85+ there is a world of difference, a 28% chance of death drops to below 1%.

• The fact that most deaths are among vaxxed does not prove that vaccination does not offer very strong protection

• nearly all deaths are in old people

• old people are vaxxed at much higher rates for the obvious reason that they have more to fear from an unvaxxed infection

• young people are vaxxed at much lower rates for the obvious reason that they have very little to fear from COVID

• when virtually the entire high risk population is vaxxed, obviously most deaths will come from vaxxed people. a vaxxed 90 year old is still much more likely to die than a typical healthy unvaxxed 20 year old.

For high risk people, vaccination is very important, and encouraging high risk people to not get vaxxed by lying to claim it is not effective, is supremely shitty behavior, and stupid to the point of flat eartherism.

I get that this sub is anti-vax, but arguments like this are simply wrong:

• every study on the subject proves that vaccination makes a massive difference on the mortality rate if you're old and haven't been infected before. trying to claim that "the difference is so small it is ridiculous" is just flatly a lie. For people 85+ there is a world of difference, a 28% chance of death drops to below 1%.

• The fact that most deaths are among vaxxed does not prove that vaccination does not offer very strong protection

• nearly all deaths are in old people

• old people are vaxxed at much higher rates for the obvious reason that they have more to fear from an unvaxxed infection

• young people are vaxxed at much lower rates for the obvious reason that they have very little to fear from COVID

• when virtually the entire high risk population is vaxxed, obviously most deaths will come from vaxxed people. a vaxxed 90 year old is still much more likely to die than a typical healthy unvaxxed 20 year old.

For high risk people, vaccination is very important, and encouraging high risk people to not get vaxxed by lying to claim it is not effective, is supremely shitty behavior, and stupid to the point of flat eartherism.