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Reason: None provided.

Look, Im pro 2A as much as anyone. I have my CCW here in MI as well as apparently this couple does. This is not the proper use of force here.

The gun should be drawn only when/if you actually need to fire it. And the lady smacking/punching her car is not enough of a threat to warrant deadly force. A good summary I took from elsewhere:

Regarding deadly force, this section establishes that a person is legally justified in using deadly force to protect themselves or another person, with no duty to retreat, provided:

They are not engaged in a crime

They are in a place they have a right to be (in other words, they are not trespassing)

They honestly and reasonably believe that deadly force is necessary

They are preventing imminent death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault to self or others

While this lady may have been in the right at every point up until then, her firearm should not have been drawn unless she feared bullet point 5, and that is inconceivable here.

As a CCW permit holder, this is a no-no.

Felony assault is probably excessive, but this could be brandishing in michigan, which is a misdemeanor.

3 years ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

Look, Im pro 2A as much as anyone. I have my CCW here in MI as well as apparently this couple does. This is not the proper use of force here.

The gun should be drawn only when/if you actually need to fire it. And the lady smacking/punching her car is not enough of a threat to warrant deadly force. A good summary I took from elsewhere:

Regarding deadly force, this section establishes that a person is legally justified in using deadly force to protect themselves or another person, with no duty to retreat, provided:

They are not engaged in a crime

They are in a place they have a right to be (in other words, they are not trespassing)

They honestly and reasonably believe that deadly force is necessary

They are preventing imminent death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault to self or others

While this lady may have been in the right at every point up until then, her firearm should not have been drawn unless she feared bullet point 5, and that is inconceivable here. Now if the lady had a bat and was bashing the car here, smashing windows, that could change things. The gun escalation was just excessive.

As a CCW permit holder, this is a no-no.

3 years ago
1 score
Reason: Original

Look, Im pro 2A as much as anyone. I have my CCW here in MI as well as apparently this couple does. This is not the proper use of force here.

The gun should be drawn only when/if you actually need to fire it. And the lady smacking/punching her car is not enough of a threat to warrant deadly force. A good summary I took from elsewhere:

Regarding deadly force, this section establishes that a person is legally justified in using deadly force to protect themselves or another person, with no duty to retreat, provided:

They are not engaged in a crime

They are in a place they have a right to be (in other words, they are not trespassing)

They honestly and reasonably believe that deadly force is necessary

They are preventing imminent death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault to self or others

While this lady may have been in the right at every point up until then, her firearm should not have been drawn unless she feared bullet point 5, and that is inconceivable here.

As a CCW permit holder, this is a no-no.

3 years ago
1 score