Let me guess, either raised fatherless or with a so liberal father that practically a 2nd mother so had no disciplinarian that would do this

Though truthfully I never needed that (as in punishment) growing up, usually having parents and grandparents who could use a 'tone' would tell me not to push my luck. These parents have no concept of expressing authority with nonviolent means so they can't express ANY authority.

Let me guess, either raised fatherless or with a so liberal father that practically a 2nd mother so had no disciplinarian who would do this

Though truthfully I never needed that (as in punishment) growing up, usually having parents and grandparents who could use a 'tone' would tell me not to push my luck. These parents have no concept of expressing authority with nonviolent means so they can't express ANY authority.