What I don’t get is the fandom. It’s turning grown men into something more unrecognizable than fucking kpop fans.

Ehh? From hearing about things before the termination of Selen Tatsuki to now being an avid follower of vtubers since, it's weird, as I'd moreso classify the fandom of vtubers as more akin to sports teams, but even then, I don't see the vtuber fandom as being any more different to being a fan of any other streamer, like Ludwig, Moist Critikal, etc.

And it’s not even like “oh we’re getting a real glimpse at who this girl is, she’s 100% genuine and the anime avatar is just for personal reasons” - I guaran-fucking-tee these chicks, “corporate” or not, are not being honest about themselves and their lives. For the corporate ones, it’s probably written into their contracts that they can’t been seen in public with their boyfriend/husband, much less discuss their existence on stream.

If 4chan and the girls' various previous accounts didn't exist, then I'd get this point, but because the Internet never forgets, it's actually very easy to discover who many vtubers used to be (assuming they were/are previously content creators), and digging into this rabbit hole has allowed me to see that a vast majority of vtubers are genuine, or at the very least the most amount of 'faking' they're doing is simply acting as their character.

With the boyfriend/significant other point, there are vtubers, such as Nyanners, formerly of VShojo, were the entire point of her channel was that her boyfriend was also a vtuber and that a bunch of her content was with her boyfriend, but since she left VShojo, I honestly haven't seen that much of her, but that's probably because she's always done a lot of IRL/facecam streams ever since she did her face reveal.

Regardless of that, like I said to someone else earlier, it's honestly not that hard to not just find out information about who vtubers were, but to tell whether or not someone's being genuine, but a lot of that has to do with how hard people like /vt/ on 4chan investigate vtubers to begin with, and the information that comes up. Then again, 4chan's always been somewhat unhinged, there are people who track streamers' periods.

From watching the content of vtubers on and off their other accounts, more vtubers are genuine than aren't, especially in Hololive, which it was discovered (and honestly makes sense with who've they have hired over the years and their own history) that Cover filters for agreeableness/vibes when it comes to their talents, and if you don't fit, you won't even make it past the first phase of auditions. Cover doesn't want 'cat fights' and it shows.

What I don’t get is the fandom. It’s turning grown men into something more unrecognizable than fucking kpop fans.

Ehh? From hearing about things before the termination of Selen Tatsuki to now being an avid follower of vtubers since, it's weird, as I'd moreso classify the fandom of vtubers as more akin to sports teams, but even then, I don't see the vtuber fandom as being any more different to being a fan of any other streamer, like Ludwig, Moist Critikal, etc.

And it’s not even like “oh we’re getting a real glimpse at who this girl is, she’s 100% genuine and the anime avatar is just for personal reasons” - I guaran-fucking-tee these chicks, “corporate” or not, are not being honest about themselves and their lives. For the corporate ones, it’s probably written into their contracts that they can’t been seen in public with their boyfriend/husband, much less discuss their existence on stream.

If 4chan and the girls' various previous accounts didn't exist, then I'd get this point, but because the Internet never forgets, it's actually very easy to discover who many vtubers used to be (assuming they were/are previously content creators), and digging into this rabbit hole has allowed me to see that a vast majority of vtubers are genuine, or at the very least the most amount of 'faking' they're doing is simply acting as their character.

With the boyfriend/significant other point, there are vtubers, such as Nyanners, formerly of VShojo, were the entire point of her channel was that her boyfriend was also a vtuber and that a bunch of her content was with her boyfriend, but since she left VShojo, I honestly haven't seen that much of her, but that's probably because she's always done a lot of IRL/facecam streams ever since she did her face reveal.

Regardless of that, like I said to someone else earlier, it's honestly not that hard to not just find out information about who vtubers were, but to tell whether or not someone's being genuine, but a lot of that has to do with how hard people like /vt/ on 4chan investigate vtubers to begin with, and the information that comes up. Then again, 4chan's always been somewhat unhinged, there are people who track streamers' periods.

From watching the content of vtubers on and off their other accounts, more vtubers are genuine than aren't, especially in Hololive, which it was discovered (and honestly makes sense with who've they have hired over the years and their own history) that Cover filters *for agreeableness/vibes when it comes to their talents, and if you don't fit, you won't even make it past the first phase of auditions. Cover doesn't want 'cat fights' and it shows.