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When will people get it through their head that this isn't about being logically consistent on a philosophical position? It's about defeating an enemy

Likely never for most. One thing I've noticed is that 95%+ of people are only capable of seeing and evaluating the world through the lens of their own experience and position. Cognitive empathy, the ability to truly see and understand the thought process of another and how/why they arrived at their position is exceptionally rare among people, and that includes the Right. One result of that is that the extreme majority of the Right will never be able to break themselves from searching for the next "gotcha! You defended X yesterday and you're attacking it today! You're a hypocrite!" moment. Because being logically and morally consistent is important to, or at very least something worth seriously considering, most on the Right, and since they can only evaluate things through their own lens, they believe it to be an appropriate attack vector on the left. Because it would be for them.

Imagine trying to fight a ghost by shooting at it with a shotgun. The pellets keep harmlessly passing through with no effect. Now imagine being unable to wrap your head around the idea that it's having no effect because you know that if someone shot you with a shotgun, it would be devastating. Your brain can't make the next leap to understand that just because it works on you, doesn't mean it works on the ghost. You just keep trying and trying and trying and trying and every time nothing happens you pause for a confused second waiting for the ghost to be destroyed, and when it doesn't happen, you shoot it again. Nothing happens, rinse repeat.

That's the Right attacking the Left with standards that are important to the Right. Standards like being logically or morally consistent. Since it matters to us, it must matter period. When it doesn't work, and the Left doesn't give a shit about being exposed as a hypocrite, we pause for a confused second not understanding why, and the just try for the next hypocrite gotcha. Rinse repeat. Most humans don't have brains capable of making that next leap of understanding others on any real level. They can only evaluate through their own lens.

And like you said, the real important factor is that it's about beating the enemy. That's what it is for them against us, and that's what it should be for us against them. It's a major handicap of the Right and one of the reasons I personally think we're going to ultimately lose this side of the Collapse. The Right cares too much about fighting "the right way" because they think how you win is important. Since it's important to the Right, back to only being able to see the world through your own lens, most think that means that it's important. It's not. It's only important to you. No one else actually cares. History doesn't remember how the winners win, the winners get to tell history what to remember and believe. It only matters that you win. The left does understand this, the Right refuses to.

15 days ago
1 score
Reason: Original

When will people get it through their head that this isn't about being logically consistent on a philosophical position? It's about defeating an enemy

Likely never for most. One thing I've noticed is that 95%+ of people are only capable of seeing and evaluating the world through the lens of their own experience and position. Cognitive empathy, the ability to truly see and understand the thought process of another and how/why they arrived at their position is exceptionally rare among people, and that includes the Right. One result of that is that the extreme majority of the Right will never be able to break themselves from searching for the next "gotcha! You defended X yesterday and you're attacking it today! You're a hypocrite!" moment. Because being logically and morally consistent is important to, or at very least something worth seriously considering, most on the Right, and since they can only evaluate things through their own lens, they believe it to be an appropriate attack vector on the left. Because it would be for them.

Imagine trying to fight a ghost by shooting at it with a shotgun. The pellets keep harmlessly passing through with no effect. Now imagine being unable to wrap your head around the idea that it's having no effect because you know that if someone shot you with a shotgun, it would be devastating. Your brain can't make the next leap to understand that just because it works on you, doesn't mean it works on the ghost. You just keep trying and trying and trying and trying and every time nothing happens you pause for a confused second waiting for the ghost to be destroyed, and when it doesn't happen, you shoot it again. Nothing happens, rinse repeat.

That's the Right attacking the Left with standards that are important to the Right. Standards like being logically or morally consistent. Since it matters to us, it must matter period. When it doesn't work, and the Left doesn't give a shit about being exposed as a hypocrite, we pause for a confused second not understanding why, and the just try for the next hypocrite gotcha. Rinse repeat. Most humans don't have brains capable of making that next leap of understanding others on any real level. They can only evaluate through their own lens.

15 days ago
1 score