can i not already project my morals unto people already?

Yes, but the result will never be more than kratocracy.

Its a distinction between:

• "The utter certainty that there will never be an end to violence because it's all against all."
• "The unlikely but theoretically possible future where there could be an end to violence because one moral (one divine) has prevailed and all (who remain) abide by it."

As long as it's literally just you versus me, the victor will only be you or me, and there will always be more of us to continue that fight.

While I doubt Islam's ability to deliver peace (given that they couldn't go one generation without finding a reason to fight amongst themselves), they do at least have the problem framed correctly: that there can only be peace when all are united around one consistent morality.

To be blunt with you Blue, I don't believe you're grasping the nuance of the point I'm making. You're a caveman; you see a problem, you hit the problem with a stick until it's no longer a problem; and that will work for you as long as the problem doesn't have a bigger stick. You don't care what history will say about your stick swinging and how it ended; and you certainly don't care about putting an end to all the stick swinging.

can i not already project my morals unto people already?

Yes, but the result will never be more than kratocracy.

Its a distinction between:

• "The utter certainty that there will never be an end to violence because it's all against all."
• "The unlikely but theoretically possible future where there could be an end to violence because one moral (one divine) has prevailed and all (who remain) abide by it."

As long as it's literally just you versus me, the victor will only be you or me, and there will always be more of us to continue that fight.

While I doubt Islam's ability to deliver peace (given that they couldn't go one generation without finding a reason to fight amongst themselves), they do at least have the problem framed correctly: that there can only be peace when all are united around one consistent morality.

To be blunt with you Blue, I don't believe you're grasping the nuance of the point I'm making. You're a caveman; you see a problem, you hit the problem with a stick until it's no longer a problem; and that will work for you as long as the problem doesn't have a bigger stick. And you don't care what history will say about your stick swinging and how it ended.

can i not already project my morals unto people already?

Yes, but the result will never be more than kratocracy.

Its a distinction between:

• "The utter certainty that there will never be an end to violence because it's all against all."
• "The unlikely but theoretically possible future where there could be an end to violence because one moral (one divine) has prevailed and all (who remain) abide by it."

As long as it's literally just you versus me, the victor will only be you or me, and there will always be more of us to continue that fight.

While I doubt Islam's ability to deliver peace (given that they couldn't go one generation without finding a reason to fight amongst themselves), they do at least have the problem framed correctly: that there can only be peace when all are united around one consistent morality.

To be blunt with you Blue, I don't believe you're grasping the nuance of the point I'm making. You're a caveman, you see a problem, you hit the problem with a stick until it's no longer a problem; and that will work for you as long as the problem doesn't have a bigger stick. And you don't care what history will say about your stick swinging and how it ended.

can i not already project my morals unto people already?

Yes, but the result will never be more than kratocracy.

Its a distinction between:

• "The utter certainty that there will never be an end to violence because it's all against all."
• "The unlikely but theoretically possible future where there could be an end to violence because one moral (one divine) has prevailed and all (who remain) abide by it."

As long as it's literally just you versus me, the victor will only be you or me, and there will always be more of us to continue that fight.

While I doubt Islam's ability to deliver peace (given that they couldn't go one generation without finding a reason to fight amongst themselves), they do at least have the problem framed correctly: that there can only be peace when all are united around one consistent morality.

To be blunt with you Blue, I don't believe you're grasping the nuance of the point I'm making. You're a caveman, you see a problem, you hit the problem with a stick until it's no longer a problem; and that will work for you as long as the problem doesn't have a bigger stick.

can i not already project my morals unto people already?

Yes, but the result will never be more than kratocracy.

Its a distinction between:

• "The utter certainty that there will never be an end to violence because it's all against all."
• "The unlikely but theoretically possible future where there could be an end to violence because one moral (one divine) has prevailed and all (who remain) abide by it."

As long as it's literally just you versus me, the victor will only be you or me, and there will always be more of us to continue that fight.

While I doubt Islam's ability to deliver peace (given that they couldn't go one generation without finding a reason to fight amongst themselves), they do at least have the problem framed correctly: that there can only be peace when all are united around one consistent morality.

To be blunt with you Blue, I don't believe you're grasping the nuance of the point I'm making. You're a simpler person who doesn't seem concerned with the fine details of an argument being internally consistent. You're a caveman, you see a problem, you hit the problem with a stick until it's no longer a problem; and that will work for you as long as the problem doesn't have a bigger stick.

can i not already project my morals unto people already?

Yes, but the result will never be more than kratocracy.

Its a distinction between:

• "The utter certainty that there will never be an end to violence because it's all against all."
• "The unlikely but theoretically possible future where there could be an end to violence because one moral (one divine) has prevailed and all (who remain) abide by it."

As long as it's literally just you versus me, the victor will only be you or me, and there will always be more of us to continue that fight.

While I doubt Islam's ability to deliver peace (given that they couldn't go one generation without finding a reason to fight amongst themselves), they do at least have the problem framed correctly: that there can only be peace when all are united around one consistent morality.

To be blunt with you Blue, I don't believe you're grasping the nuance of the point I'm making. You're a simpler person who doesn't seem concerned with the fine details of an argument being internally consistent. You're a caveman, you see a problem, you hit the problem with a stick until it's no longer a problem; and that will work for you as long as the problem doesn't have a bigger stick.

There's really not much more point continuing this conversation because you clearly have neither the interest nor the capacity to reason with the problem.

can i not already project my morals unto people already?

Yes, but the result will never be more than kratocracy.

Its a distinction between:

• "The utter certainty that there will never be an end to violence because it's all against all."
• "The unlikely but theoretically possible future where there could be an end to violence because one moral (one divine) has prevailed and all (who remain) abide by it."

As long as it's literally just you versus me, the victor will only be you or me, and there will always be more of us to continue that fight.

While I doubt Islam's ability to deliver peace (given that they couldn't go one generation without finding a reason to fight amongst themselves), they do at least have the problem framed correctly: that there can only be peace when all are united around one consistent morality.

can i not already project my morals unto people already?

Yes, but the result will never be more than kratocracy.

Its a distinction between:

• "The utter certainty that there will never be an end to violence because it's all against all."
• "The unlikely but theoretically possible future where there could be an end to violence because one moral (one divine) has prevailed and all (who remain) abide by it."

As long as it's literally just you versus me, the victor will only be you or me, and there will always be more of us to continue that fight.

Much as I dislike the Muslims, I freely admit that their CHARACTERIZATION OF THE PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED is entirely correct. I doubt their ability to deliver peace (given that they couldn't go one generation without finding a reason to fight amongst themselves), they do at least have the problem framed correctly: that there can only be peace when all are united around one consistent morality.

can i not already project my morals unto people already?

Yes, but the result will never be more than kratocracy.

Its a distinction between:

• "The utter certainty that there will never be an end to violence because it's all against all."
• "The unlikely but theoretically possible future where there could be an end to violence because one moral (one divine) has prevailed and all (who remain) abide by it."

As long as it's literally just you versus me, the victor will only be you or me, and there will always be more of us to continue that fight.

Much as I dislike the Muslims, I freely admit that their CHARACTERIZATION OF THE PROBLEM TO BE SOLVED is entirely correct. Dubious though I am of their ability to deliver peace (given that they couldn't go one generation without finding a reason to fight amongst themselves), they do at least have the problem framed correctly: that there can only be peace when all are united around one consistent morality.

can i not already project my morals unto people already?

Yes, but the result will never be more than kratocracy.

Its a distinction between:

• "The utter certainty that there will never be an end to violence because it's all against all."
• "The unlikely but theoretically possible future where there could be an end to violence because one moral (one divine) has prevailed."

As long as it's literally just you versus me, the victor will only be you or me, and there will always be more of us to continue that fight.