Yes. It's still not 'genocide'.

Still part of genocide and eradication of those they deemed "undesirables". Seethe more, commie.

I'm not the one who can't produce any sources of information, because he hasn't read any. That would be you. In fact, 'samizdat' is basically the only thing you know about Russian history, and you've been repeating it because no one called you out on your BS. Not happening here.

Cope and seethe. No one's called me out because there's nothing for them to disagree on. You were simply upset that someone stood up against your lies.

The only thing you've done so far is destroy your own arguments and throw insults, commie. You didn't call anything out - but you did demonstrate your own ignorance of world history. Congratulations, you dim-witted dumbfuck.

Basically no one tries to eradicate the people he rules over...

Another lie.

You have no idea how communist regimes following the writings of Marx and Engels do things, then.

OK, so you can't cite any 'praise'. Which shows that you were lying.

I don't have to cite your own words. They're damning enough as it is.

Shocker. No one in his right mind would say that "the mass murders that the communists committed were not aimed at eradicating the Russian people, and therefore were not genocide against Russians" is praise, or even anything other than eminently sensible.

You're trying pretty hard to divert from the fact that you've been desperately repeating bolshevik talking points when it came to covering up the genocide of the russian people.

Commie simp.

Unfortunately, I think it was very long time ago that you were in your right mind, if ever.

You're repeating the post-WWII soviet 'our genocide is not genocide' lie, commie. But hey, your kind cannot think.

No defense of your troon-like claim to be 'invalidated' when someone disagrees with you.

You're a terminally-retarded imbecile if your reading comprehension is this low.

LOL. I see there are some very unpleasant truths you will have to confront at some point.

Yeah, I bet your uncle works at nintendo. Go beg him to ban my game boy color or something. Oh wait, you can't. Because you're a fraud, a liar and a commie.

You wish you ran this joint though, although you never will. Cry about it, commie.

Imagine that, someone claims to know a Great Deal about Russia, and you ask him... where he got all that knowledge. Apparently, it was an Ouija Board. Questioning your Ouija Board makes someone a Predditor.

You're just mad because all your dirty commie tricks are being ignored. Seethe and cope, predditor filth.

Well-documented, you say? Produce the documents then.

So you can burn them? Hahahaha, no.

Yes, you said that mentioning books here would result in them getting banned. So on the one hand, your claims are "well-documented" and believed by everyone except communists, but on the other hand, as much as mentioning those great sources of yours (blog posts) will result in them getting banned.

You deny that, but that's how you communists have always silenced your critics.

What counts as 'ignorance of world history'? Here's another question you'll not be able to answer. Quick, talk about Reddit again to try to save face!

Clever bait, but you've already demonstrated an ignorance of world history. As expected of an ignorant communist shill.

I said that in the very post you were quoting. Obviously, not all Ukrainians are Nazis. Or even most. But it has a serious Nazi problem, and specifically the people who brand the Holodomor as a genocide are Ukrainian nationalists with... spicy ideologies. Of course, that does not automatically make them wrong, but it does explain why they would make such claims. Many of them to cover their own misdeeds.

That's a lot of words to try and avoid the fact you brought up Ukraine out of nowhere to try and insult me. Backpedal even harder, commie.

OK, so you can't name a single thing that was made up.

Sure I can. I just don't need to because you're the one making things up.

You're still keeping secret where you got this great wisdom of yours.

Of course. You're an ignorant commie's useful idiot. You cannot comprehend what life is like under communist rule.

THEY'RE ON TO ME! SHUT IT DOWN!

You can't shut down this site either, commie. Although yes, it fits the behavior patterns of your kind - communists always seek to shut down anything and anyone that questions their narrative.

Stay mad.

Say, what is the definition of genocide? NO DEFINITIONS ARE A COMMIE CONSPIRACY. Alright.

You commies changed the definition of genocide after the end of world war 2 to exclude yourselves. A dirty trick, but it's one often used by communists since then.

Providing a more nuanced understanding of murderous regime is not 'doing PR'. I can refer you to books, which you of course will not read

I guess these books dont exist either, commie.

that paint Hitler and the Nazis in a more favorable light. It is not difficult, considering that the popular image of Nazis is "pure evil". Because history is complex and nuanced. Everyone in history did good things and bad things. It's just that for the Nazis and the Bolsheviks, the bad grossly outweighed such good as they did.

"muh context!" Of course, when your side commits genocide, its 'muh context and nuance!', predditor scum.

Hahahaha no, no one's falling for that lie.

Yes, cause you don't have any.

I have plenty. I'm just not going to share it with you.

Apparently, you'll not stop flattering yourself either.

Stay mad. I respect myself enough not to cooperate with a communist worm like you. That's the sort of human spirit you communist scumbags seek to stomp out of your victims.

There are intelligent anti-communists. Robert Conquest is one. You are not one.

You're just mad because I refuse to break my sources. Your pathetic peer pressure tactics only make me laugh.

Observing is not dictating.

Ha, you were the one who claimed I was an American. Your observation skills suck, you inbred dreg in the gene pool of all humanity.

The entire historical enterprise rests on sources. Of course everyone expects you to back up your claims. Otherwise, it's just a cripple fight (which this is).

I don't need to share sources with you historical revisionists.

What better way to SMASH THE BAD COMMIE than by presenting those very intelligent sources that you definitely have. Grandma, you sure are merciful in not SMASHING THE BAD COMMIE

I see you haven't witnessed (or perhaps you have, and are trying to memoryhole that) the communist speedrun of 2020, you dishonest shitwad. I don't really need to smash anyone - communists tend to destroy themselves once they run out of funding.

Nice attempt at trying to get me to commit violence, though, glowfag. You suck at that too. You will never get anyone in this community to commit a mass shooting. Cry about it.

You've got to tell yourself that, to try to salvage at least some face.

Oh look, communist interrogation tactic #に: social shaming of the imaginary kind. Hahaha, you are a fool if you think that will work on me.

Funny how you cite the non-argument most cited by defenders of the US empire.

Nice whataboutism, commie. But there is no US empire; just another country slowly succumbing to communist occupation.

All I said was that not all ukrainians are nazis and this is where you end up.

OK, and water is wet.

Which goes against your original claim that me saying that not all ukrainians are nazis somehow makes me pro-ukraine.

But you're too much of a cretin to even admit that.

It's part of genocide

There you go.

but it certainly isn't sufficient for genocide.

Unfortunately for you, the soviet authorities demanded a change in the definition of genocide to exclude their own actions. That's the reason why you desperately claim that the bolsheviks did not commit genocide; you know that they did, and must hide that fact. If it became widespread knowledge that you commies managed to commit genocide on a greater scale than nazi germany, then yes - your ideology would be decimated and shunned to death.

It's your neck on the line when that lie finally collapses, commie.

White people. That is the claim you're defending.

You're trying pretty hard to deny the ethnic identity of the russian peoples, you dishonest communist shill.

No one here is like me. There are no men like me, only me. I meant in the so called real world.

Of course, no one here is a disgusting, dishonest communist like you. You're a pathetic shill that's STILL mad about how the communist genocides simply wont stay buried, no matter how hard you claim that the ideology is 'dead' and scream down any sort of discussion of bolsheviks and their genocides.

OK, so Mr. Genius is now arguing that the goal of Marx and Engels was 'exterminating white people'.

Your ignorance of the baseline behavior of all communist regimes is fascinating. Truly, you are a useful idiot.

What's "to go against"? Use retarded labels that have nothing to do with censorship? Yes.

Another lie. Now you're claiming that samizdat emerged for no reason.

Name ten. Or is that a secret as well?

And have your kind haul them off to the gulags? Hah, you're a single-digit IQ subhuman retard if you think I'll tell you even one.

I said 'can be disputed', not has been disputed.

Nice backpedal, commie. But I know your kind has been doing PR facelifts for the Khmer Rouge too.

You're the Paul Revere of non-existent genocides.

It is beautiful to see how your kind still seethe against the one nation that managed to hold out against communist occupation this long, though.

Ukraine?

You're pretty desperate to twist everything I say to Ukraine, aren't you?

Two things wrong with your idiotic reply, though.

1. Paul Revere isn't Ukrainian.

2. Ukraine isn't occupied.

Of course, your obsession marks your desperation to mark all conversation of communist-run genocides as 'autistic screeching' by 'ukrainian ultranationalists'.

Too bad, commie. It won't work.

You clearly have none. How could you have any? Your sperging all rests on "MY SOURCES ARE SUPER DUPER SECRET", which is because you know that you have nothing with which to back up your BS. That is why you invent hilarious excuses like... posting your sources here will get those books banned.

Another lie. My response to you has been 'hahaha communist, I won't tell you what my sources are' and you've tried every struggle session tactic you've been taught, only to fail hilariously each and every time.

I revel in your desperate screeching.

Basically. Not you though. They accuse them of 'genocide against Ukrainians'. You accuse them of genocide against Russians. That's just stupid.

Typical communist lies. I wasn't talking about Ukraine in the first place. You brought that up to try and shame me into silence. Too bad, that didn't work either.

Your argument is what's stupid. After all, you ignore the fact the bolsheviks committed the holomodor because it's an inconvenient fact for you commies, and I've seen the convoluted levels of mental gymnastics you go to try and PR facelift that. Of course, it's what I'd expect from an ignorant moron such as yourself.

Remember Year Zero, commie.

Yes. It's still not 'genocide'.

Still part of genocide and eradication of those they deemed "undesirables". Seethe more, commie.

I'm not the one who can't produce any sources of information, because he hasn't read any. That would be you. In fact, 'samizdat' is basically the only thing you know about Russian history, and you've been repeating it because no one called you out on your BS. Not happening here.

The only thing you've done so far is destroy your own arguments and throw insults, commie. You didn't call anything out - but you did demonstrate your own ignorance of world history. Congratulations, you dim-witted dumbfuck.

Basically no one tries to eradicate the people he rules over...

Another lie.

You have no idea how communist regimes following the writings of Marx and Engels do things, then.

OK, so you can't cite any 'praise'. Which shows that you were lying.

I don't have to cite your own words. They're damning enough as it is.

Shocker. No one in his right mind would say that "the mass murders that the communists committed were not aimed at eradicating the Russian people, and therefore were not genocide against Russians" is praise, or even anything other than eminently sensible.

You're trying pretty hard to divert from the fact that you've been desperately repeating bolshevik talking points when it came to covering up the genocide of the russian people.

Commie simp.

Unfortunately, I think it was very long time ago that you were in your right mind, if ever.

You're repeating the post-WWII soviet 'our genocide is not genocide' lie, commie. But hey, your kind cannot think.

No defense of your troon-like claim to be 'invalidated' when someone disagrees with you.

You're a terminally-retarded imbecile if your reading comprehension is this low.

LOL. I see there are some very unpleasant truths you will have to confront at some point.

Yeah, I bet your uncle works at nintendo. Go beg him to ban my game boy color or something. Oh wait, you can't. Because you're a fraud, a liar and a commie.

You wish you ran this joint though, although you never will. Cry about it, commie.

Imagine that, someone claims to know a Great Deal about Russia, and you ask him... where he got all that knowledge. Apparently, it was an Ouija Board. Questioning your Ouija Board makes someone a Predditor.

You're just mad because all your dirty commie tricks are being ignored. Seethe and cope, predditor filth.

Well-documented, you say? Produce the documents then.

So you can burn them? Hahahaha, no.

Yes, you said that mentioning books here would result in them getting banned. So on the one hand, your claims are "well-documented" and believed by everyone except communists, but on the other hand, as much as mentioning those great sources of yours (blog posts) will result in them getting banned.

You deny that, but that's how you communists have always silenced your critics.

What counts as 'ignorance of world history'? Here's another question you'll not be able to answer. Quick, talk about Reddit again to try to save face!

Clever bait, but you've already demonstrated an ignorance of world history. As expected of an ignorant communist shill.

I said that in the very post you were quoting. Obviously, not all Ukrainians are Nazis. Or even most. But it has a serious Nazi problem, and specifically the people who brand the Holodomor as a genocide are Ukrainian nationalists with... spicy ideologies. Of course, that does not automatically make them wrong, but it does explain why they would make such claims. Many of them to cover their own misdeeds.

That's a lot of words to try and avoid the fact you brought up Ukraine out of nowhere to try and insult me. Backpedal even harder, commie.

OK, so you can't name a single thing that was made up.

Sure I can. I just don't need to because you're the one making things up.

You're still keeping secret where you got this great wisdom of yours.

Of course. You're an ignorant commie's useful idiot. You cannot comprehend what life is like under communist rule.

THEY'RE ON TO ME! SHUT IT DOWN!

You can't shut down this site either, commie. Although yes, it fits the behavior patterns of your kind - communists always seek to shut down anything and anyone that questions their narrative.

Stay mad.

Say, what is the definition of genocide? NO DEFINITIONS ARE A COMMIE CONSPIRACY. Alright.

You commies changed the definition of genocide after the end of world war 2 to exclude yourselves. A dirty trick, but it's one often used by communists since then.

Providing a more nuanced understanding of murderous regime is not 'doing PR'. I can refer you to books, which you of course will not read

I guess these books dont exist either, commie.

that paint Hitler and the Nazis in a more favorable light. It is not difficult, considering that the popular image of Nazis is "pure evil". Because history is complex and nuanced. Everyone in history did good things and bad things. It's just that for the Nazis and the Bolsheviks, the bad grossly outweighed such good as they did.

"muh context!" Of course, when your side commits genocide, its 'muh context and nuance!', predditor scum.

Hahahaha no, no one's falling for that lie.

Yes, cause you don't have any.

I have plenty. I'm just not going to share it with you.

Apparently, you'll not stop flattering yourself either.

Stay mad. I respect myself enough not to cooperate with a communist worm like you. That's the sort of human spirit you communist scumbags seek to stomp out of your victims.

There are intelligent anti-communists. Robert Conquest is one. You are not one.

You're just mad because I refuse to break my sources. Your pathetic peer pressure tactics only make me laugh.

Observing is not dictating.

Ha, you were the one who claimed I was an American. Your observation skills suck, you inbred dreg in the gene pool of all humanity.

The entire historical enterprise rests on sources. Of course everyone expects you to back up your claims. Otherwise, it's just a cripple fight (which this is).

I don't need to share sources with you historical revisionists.

What better way to SMASH THE BAD COMMIE than by presenting those very intelligent sources that you definitely have. Grandma, you sure are merciful in not SMASHING THE BAD COMMIE

I see you haven't witnessed (or perhaps you have, and are trying to memoryhole that) the communist speedrun of 2020, you dishonest shitwad. I don't really need to smash anyone - communists tend to destroy themselves once they run out of funding.

Nice attempt at trying to get me to commit violence, though, glowfag. You suck at that too. You will never get anyone in this community to commit a mass shooting. Cry about it.

You've got to tell yourself that, to try to salvage at least some face.

Oh look, communist interrogation tactic #に: social shaming of the imaginary kind. Hahaha, you are a fool if you think that will work on me.

Funny how you cite the non-argument most cited by defenders of the US empire.

Nice whataboutism, commie. But there is no US empire; just another country slowly succumbing to communist occupation.

All I said was that not all ukrainians are nazis and this is where you end up.

OK, and water is wet.

Which goes against your original claim that me saying that not all ukrainians are nazis somehow makes me pro-ukraine.

But you're too much of a cretin to even admit that.

It's part of genocide

There you go.

but it certainly isn't sufficient for genocide.

Unfortunately for you, the soviet authorities demanded a change in the definition of genocide to exclude their own actions. That's the reason why you desperately claim that the bolsheviks did not commit genocide; you know that they did, and must hide that fact. If it became widespread knowledge that you commies managed to commit genocide on a greater scale than nazi germany, then yes - your ideology would be decimated and shunned to death.

It's your neck on the line when that lie finally collapses, commie.

White people. That is the claim you're defending.

You're trying pretty hard to deny the ethnic identity of the russian peoples, you dishonest communist shill.

No one here is like me. There are no men like me, only me. I meant in the so called real world.

Of course, no one here is a disgusting, dishonest communist like you. You're a pathetic shill that's STILL mad about how the communist genocides simply wont stay buried, no matter how hard you claim that the ideology is 'dead' and scream down any sort of discussion of bolsheviks and their genocides.

OK, so Mr. Genius is now arguing that the goal of Marx and Engels was 'exterminating white people'.

Your ignorance of the baseline behavior of all communist regimes is fascinating. Truly, you are a useful idiot.

What's "to go against"? Use retarded labels that have nothing to do with censorship? Yes.

Another lie. Now you're claiming that samizdat emerged for no reason.

Name ten. Or is that a secret as well?

And have your kind haul them off to the gulags? Hah, you're a single-digit IQ subhuman retard if you think I'll tell you even one.

I said 'can be disputed', not has been disputed.

Nice backpedal, commie. But I know your kind has been doing PR facelifts for the Khmer Rouge too.

You're the Paul Revere of non-existent genocides.

It is beautiful to see how your kind still seethe against the one nation that managed to hold out against communist occupation this long, though.

Ukraine?

You're pretty desperate to twist everything I say to Ukraine, aren't you?

Two things wrong with your idiotic reply, though.

1. Paul Revere isn't Ukrainian.

2. Ukraine isn't occupied.

Of course, your obsession marks your desperation to mark all conversation of communist-run genocides as 'autistic screeching' by 'ukrainian ultranationalists'.

Too bad, commie. It won't work.

You clearly have none. How could you have any? Your sperging all rests on "MY SOURCES ARE SUPER DUPER SECRET", which is because you know that you have nothing with which to back up your BS. That is why you invent hilarious excuses like... posting your sources here will get those books banned.

Another lie. My response to you has been 'hahaha communist, I won't tell you what my sources are' and you've tried every struggle session tactic you've been taught, only to fail hilariously each and every time.

I revel in your desperate screeching.

Basically. Not you though. They accuse them of 'genocide against Ukrainians'. You accuse them of genocide against Russians. That's just stupid.

Typical communist lies. I wasn't talking about Ukraine in the first place. You brought that up to try and shame me into silence. Too bad, that didn't work either.

Your argument is what's stupid. After all, you ignore the fact the bolsheviks committed the holomodor because it's an inconvenient fact for you commies, and I've seen the convoluted levels of mental gymnastics you go to try and PR facelift that. Of course, it's what I'd expect from an ignorant moron such as yourself.

Remember Year Zero, commie.