I liked alot of the early marvel movies because they didn't treat me like a fucking idiot or insult my intelligence.

Weird as that is to say.

With 99% of most hollywood movies pre-marvel, the expectation is that the person watching it is dumb as a box of rocks. (They're right, but work with me here.)

As such, there is a lack of trust that you understand what's actually going on. So the story tends to belabor the fucking point, or ham it up with voice-overs constantly and constantly explaining shit, or the movie repeatedly hitting you metaphorically over the head with 'THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING PAY ATTENTION'.

A blatant example I like to use is Dark City. If you've never watched it, I highly, highly recommend it. Excellent movie. If you like your Noir mysteries with a side of eldritch horror, buckle the fuck up. But, fair warning - watch the version that doesn't spoil the entire fucking movie in the opening voice over.

Why does it have a voice over? Because hollywood producers thought that people wouldn't understand what was going on without it.

To contrast, as stupid as Captain Marvel was, and as poorly done, it atleast just pushed me into the deep end and expected me to catch up on my lonesome during the first 30 minutes of the film.

That was one of the big warning signs in 'Thor: Love and Thunder'. They did it in a... look, alot of that movie was stupid, but the fact that they actually had a fucking re-cap to explain all the shit that's happened up until that point was a blatant display of 'things have changed alot for the worse'.

So, yeah. That's why I actually like alot of marvel stuff, pre-Endgame.

I liked alot of the early marvel movies because they didn't treat me like a fucking idiot or insult my intelligence.

Weird as that is to say.

With 99% of most hollywood movies pre-marvel, the expectation is that the person watching it is dumb as a box of rocks. (They're right, but work with me here.)

As such, there is a lack of trust that you understand what's actually going on. So the story tends to belabor the fucking point, or ham it up with voice-overs constantly and constantly explaining shit, or the movie repeatedly hitting you metaphorically over the head with 'THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING PAY ATTENTION'.

A blatant example I like to use is Dark City. If you've never watched it, I highly, highly recommend it. Excellent movie. If you like your Noir mysteries with a side of eldritch horror, buckle the fuck up. But, fair warning - *watch the version that doesn't spoil the entire fucking movie in the opening voice over. *

Why does it have a voice over? Because hollywood producers thought that people wouldn't understand what was going on without it.

To contrast, as stupid as Captain Marvel was, and as poorly done, it atleast just pushed me into the deep end and expected me to catch up on my lonesome during the first 30 minutes of the film.

That was one of the big warning signs in 'Thor: Love and Thunder'. They did it in a... look, alot of that movie was stupid, but the fact that they actually had a fucking re-cap to explain all the shit that's happened up until that point was a blatant display of 'things have changed alot for the worse'.

So, yeah. That's why I actually like alot of marvel stuff, pre-Endgame.