Feminists genuinely need to fuck off.

I'd say this goes without saying but, no, it should still be said at every opportunity anyway. They're a plague.

...popular sentiment feminists use...that "female gaze" media doesnt objectify men and respects them as people and is about emotion and being well written...

Hahahaha. A lot of it is the same or worse than cherry-picked examples of "male gaze." You can't argue with a feminist, though, because they live in their own reality, where women/feminists are capable of nothing bad or wrong.

...while "male gaze" media objectifies women (via camera angles or outifts), and is thus inherently misogynistic and toxic.

Let's just ignore that what a lot of men like about female characters is their personalities. Sure, being hot and sexy helps, a lot, but there are plenty of hated hot female characters. It takes more than "male gaze" to make men like a female character.

...a feminist literally fucking said the anime free! (which features shot of boys abs constantly and is blatantly pandering to women) is just "using the male gaze on other men".

I love when they say stuff so straight up retarded. Also, not talking about that show in particular, but men don't mind buff male characters on their own, just like sane women don't mind attractive females. But that's very different than male eye candy to specifically appeal to women, or making everyone gay or gay-adjacent. But, yeah, there's no such thing as a (straight) "male gaze" on male characters. Because straight men aren't interested in men.

(because I guess men are just sexist pigs and women are these enlightened beings, right?).

My favorite argument along these lines is the idiots who think the world would be a better place if women ran everything. Have they seen where that was tried? Doesn't end well. Again, the main problem in general, and a big break between right and left, progressive and conservative, is how they perceive reality. Right/conservative see things (more or less) how they are, left/progressive see things as they want them to be. If you try to build a utopia, while not acknowledging basic human reality because it's racist/sexist/whateverist...you're gonna have a bad time. A really bad time. Like, eventually, a famine/genocide-style bad time.

Lmao at people saying that "japan is the most backwards and sexist nation", when americas top music videos and social media platforms have probably even more female sexualization, and also when africa and the fucking middle east exist lol.

I know people like to go on about how "Japan isn't really based" or whatever, and there's certainly some truth there...nowhere is safe, and the infection is seeping everywhere. But, still, I really hope Japan can fight it off, as they still seem better in a lot of ways. Not perfect, but at least they're still homogenous, and still have some culture. There's still something worth protecting there, so I wish them the best.

And these people arent a small minority these videos and social media posts get a loy of likes and shares with shit tons of comments of people whining about muh soggy knees, this is what happens when anime becomes popular in the west.

Eeeeh, they're not as small as they should be, and it's being churned into the mainstream by so-called higher education, as well as social media, but these people are mostly just loud and perpetually online.

But, still, it's a good point. They're not as big as they appear, but they're also bigger than they were a decade ago, when plenty of people thought they'd go away. These people can't be ignored, even if they were just a tiny vocal minority. Because the cultural elites are propping these locusts up.

That said, I do believe the tide is finally turning. People are getting fed up, a lot of scams are starting to fall apart, I think the pendulum is swinging back. But it's still going to be a long, very painful trip, and these assholes will continue to be a pain and danger forever, even if we do eventually "beat" them. Cultural communism will always lurk within swathes of humanity, sadly.

Feminists genuinely need to fuck off.

I'd say this goes without saying but, no, it should still be said at every opportunity anyway. They're a plague.

...popular sentiment feminists use...that "female gaze" media doesnt objectify men and respects them as people and is about emotion and being well written...

Hahahaha. A lot of it is the same or worse than cherry-picked examples of "male gaze." You can't argue with a feminist, though, because they live in their own reality, where women/feminists are capable of nothing bad or wrong.

...while "male gaze" media objectifies women (via camera angles or outifts), and is thus inherently misogynistic and toxic.

Let's just ignore that what a lot of men like about female characters is their personalities. Sure, being hot and sexy helps, a lot, but there are plenty of hated hot female characters. It takes more than "male gaze" to make men like a female character.

...a feminist literally fucking said the anime free! (which features shot of boys abs constantly and is blatantly pandering to women) is just "using the male gaze on other men".

I love when they say stuff so straight up retarded. Also, not talking about that show in particular, but men don't mind buff male characters on their own, just like sane women don't mind attractive females. But that's very different than male eye candy to specifically appeal to women, or making everyone gay or gay-adjacent. But, yeah, there's no such thing as a (straight) "male gaze" on male characters. Because straight men aren't interested in men.

(because I guess men are just sexist pigs and women are these enlightened beings, right?).

My favorite argument along these lines is the idiots who think the world would be a better place if women ran everything. Have they seen where that was tried? Doesn't end well. Again, the main problem in general, and a big break between right and left, progressive and conservative, is how they perceive reality. Right/conservative see things (more or less) how they are, left/progressive see things as they want them to be. If you try to build a utopia, while not acknowledging basic human reality because it's racist/sexist/whateverist...you're gonna have a bad time. A really bad time. Like, eventually, a famine/genocide-style bad time.

Lmao at people saying that "japan is the most backwards and sexist nation", when americas top music videos and social media platforms have probably even more female sexualization, and also when africa and the fucking middle east exist lol.

I know people like to go on about how "Japan isn't really based" or whatever, and there's certainly some truth there...nowhere is safe, and the infection is seeping everywhere. But, still, I really hope Japan can fight it off, as they still seem better in a lot of way. Not perfect, but at least they're still homogenous, and still have some culture. There's still something worth protecting there, so I wish them the best.

And these people arent a small minority these videos and social media posts get a loy of likes and shares with shit tons of comments of people whining about muh soggy knees, this is what happens when anime becomes popular in the west.

Eeeeh, they're not as small as they should be, and it's being churned into the mainstream by so-called higher education, as well as social media, but these people are mostly just loud and perpetually online.

But, still, it's a good point. They're not as big as they appear, but they're also bigger than they were a decade ago, when plenty of people thought they'd go away. These people can't be ignored, even if they were just a tiny vocal minority. Because the cultural elites are propping these locusts up.

That said, I do believe the tide is finally turning. People are getting fed up, a lot of scams are starting to fall apart, I think the pendulum is swinging back. But it's still going to be a long, very painful trip, and these assholes will continue to be a pain and danger forever, even if we do eventually "beat" them. Cultural communism will always lurk within swathes of humanity, sadly.