What would you think of someone who said the same thing about that fake country?

And this is at least part of the reason I dont normally engage with you on this topic, and probably wont after I say my peace here (but its the start of my weekend, so I am feeling saucy).

Even at a starting basis point, we are already too wildly different from each other to even conceivably have the argument. Ukraine exist. It existed since the Middle Ages. It continued to have it's own language and culture even after it was occupied by the Russia's. It attempted to break away when the Soviet Union was forming and failed (and was brutalized as punishment). Then when that evil empire imploded, they ran screaming for the door like so many other former Soviet states, finally becoming free and independent in the process, much like the Poles and Baltics before them. They have had a good 30 years of being independent and doing their own thing, for the first time in centuries. And now they have their former overlord coming back to try and drag them back to their decaying land because they want some former glory, and wont take no for an answer.

And even if you didnt believe Ukraine existed before, well congratulations: It exist now. Because you united a people against a common enemy and gave them a reason to fight. Much like how there was no United States until the British opened fire at Lexington.

I say again: Is it any wonder that Ukraine's response was to channel their inner Pole, cry "Never again", and shoot the bastards in the face. And I say: Give'em hell. And here's a bigger gun to do it with. Gotta make sure they stay dead after all (like how 9mm only kills the body, but .45ACP kills the soul).

But when it comes to Russia, Poles and the Baltics unfortunately suffer from an irrationality of the highest order.

More like "The sanest and most rational reaction known to man."

Hard to believe that they are lukewarm about being allies with people who blow up their pipelines.

You know what? Fine. Fair point. But at the same time, Trump tried to warn them of this exact issue, and what was Germany's response? To smugly laugh and declare him to be a buffoon. So forgive me if I am not going to lose too much sleep over Germany once again suffering the consequences of its own actions (much like unilaterally declaring the EU open to migrants). And I say that as someone who is descended from Germans. But then like many others we did flee to America, so maybe there is some inbred hate for the old Fatherland in there somewhere (could also explain the attachment to Poland).

I'm sure Russia is also willing to accept a rump United States consisting of just Virginia and Maryland, provided that it behaves itself and does not interfere in any way with Russia's regional ambitions.

They are certainly welcome to try. Something tells me that they would be far less successful in that endeavor though.

It's ironic that as a "nationalist" you fully support Victoria Nuland and other bloodthirsty neocons to get "handsy" with Ukraine and even determine who the next Prime Minister is going to be.

And what happens if we pick someone they dont like? Then they will probably overthrow them, as happened to many American-backed regimes throughout the Cold War. So I really dont see what proof that it was bad for them in the long run. You dont get a movement like that out of nowhere, in the opposite way as we see the Woke on the backfoot and starting to fall since they cant manifest a grassroots support network.

Jingoism ill suits someone who purports to think for himself.

I suppose call it the backlash to all of the attempts to tear down my country. I am thoroughly sick, tired, and done with caring about what a bunch of sniveling European elitist think the US should be. I would rather be the American the Chinese and Russians think we are. Minus the Woke aspects of course, but consider most of those ideals come from France....

Ukraine doesn't exist.

See first paragraph.

Being propagandized for 8 years with anti-Russian propaganda and war fevor will do a number on you.

You seem to think I have been swimming in some sort of MSM slurry and being told what to think about all of this by the likes of Brian Stelter and Chris Cumuo. I have based my opinion on the war, from the very beginning, off of Raw combat footage. Not even with commentary, because there is no need. Video doesnt lie when you are watching it go down live. And it hasnt been just Ukrainian either. I have seen from the Russian side of the line as well, because like usual I dont trust just one side.

Do you know why I am so anti-Russia in this regard? Because I have listened to them. And their own news of the war, and their attempts to spin their failures, are so delusional I have seen SJW's that were more comprehensible. They lie about things I know didnt happen because I watched it happen. They still operate under a delusion that they would be able to overrun Europe, and that they should when they are done in Ukraine (that sound you hear is Poland giddy in the corner and itching for a fight). They are honestly starting to sound not too far off from what I remember of Soviet newscasters. So I question why you and others take them at face value either, when it is obvious to anyone who watches the damn footage you are being lied to. Just compare a map of Ukraine now to a map about a year ago, and tell me with a straight face Russia will win this. Maybe Donbass, but Ukraine will stand defiant. And I can live with that.

Now if you'll excuse me, I am going to go find Supreme. I imagine we can clink some beers and share some popcorn watching the latest Russian tank turret throwing competition. I also heard Wagner is hold the events for "Who wants the last magazine?" deathmatch tonight.

What would you think of someone who said the same thing about that fake country?

And this is at least part of the reason I dont normally engage with you on this topic, and probably wont after I say my peace here (but its the start of my weekend, so I am feeling saucy).

Even at a starting basis point, we are already too wildly different from each other to even conceivably have the argument. Ukraine exist. It existed since the Middle Ages. It continued to have it's own language and culture even after it was occupied by the Russia's. It attempted to break away when the Soviet Union was forming and failed (and was brutalized as punishment). Then when that evil empire imploded, they ran screaming for the door like so many other former Soviet states, finally becoming free and independent in the process, much like the Poles and Baltics before them. They have had a good 30 years of being independent and doing their own thing, for the first time in centuries. And now they have their former overlord coming back to try and drag them back to their decaying land because they want some former glory, and wont take no for an answer.

And even if you didnt believe Ukraine existed before, well congratulations: It exist now. Because you united a people against a common enemy and gave them a reason to fight. Much like how there was no United States until the British opened fire at Lexington.

I say again: Is it any wonder that Ukraine's response was to channel their inner Pole, cry "Never again", and shoot the bastards in the face. And I say: Give'em hell. And here's a bigger gun to do it with. Gotta make sure they stay dead after all (like how 9mm only kills the body, but .45ACP kills the soul).

But when it comes to Russia, Poles and the Baltics unfortunately suffer from an irrationality of the highest order.

More like "The sanest and most rational reaction known to man."

Hard to believe that they are lukewarm about being allies with people who blow up their pipelines.

You know what? Fine. Fair point. But at the same time, Trump tried to warn them of this exact issue, and what was Germany's response? To smugly laugh and declare him to be a buffoon. So forgive me if I am not going to lose too much sleep over Germany once again suffering the consequences of its own actions (much like unilaterally declaring the EU open to migrants). And I say that as someone who is descended from Germans. But then like many others we did flee to America, so maybe there is some inbred hate for the old Fatherland in there somewhere (could also explain the attachment to Poland).

I'm sure Russia is also willing to accept a rump United States consisting of just Virginia and Maryland, provided that it behaves itself and does not interfere in any way with Russia's regional ambitions.

They are certainly welcome to try. Something tells me that they would be far less successful in that endeavor though.

It's ironic that as a "nationalist" you fully support Victoria Nuland and other bloodthirsty neocons to get "handsy" with Ukraine and even determine who the next Prime Minister is going to be.

And what happens if we pick someone they dont like? Then they will probably overthrow them, as happened to many American-backed regimes throughout the Cold War. So I really dont see what proof that it was bad for them in the long run. You dont get a movement like that out of nowhere, in the opposite way as we see the Woke on the backfoot and starting to fall since they cant manifest a grassroots support network.

Jingoism ill suits someone who purports to think for himself.

I suppose call it the backlash to all of the attempts to tear down my country. I am thoroughly sick, tired, and done with caring about what a bunch of sniveling European elitist think the US should be. I would rather be the American the Chinese and Russians think we are. Minus the Woke aspects of course, but consider most of those ideals come from France....

Ukraine doesn't exist.

See first paragraph.

Being propagandized for 8 years with anti-Russian propaganda and war fevor will do a number on you.

You seem to think I have been swimming in some sort of MSM slurry and being told what to think about all of this by the likes of Brian Stelter and Chris Cumuo. I have based my opinion on the war, from the very beginning, off of Raw combat footage. Not even with commentary, because there is no need. Video doesnt lie when you are watching it go down live. And it hasnt been just Ukrainian either. I have seen from the Russian side of the line as well, because like usual I dont trust just one side.

Do you know why I am so anti-Russia in this regard? Because I have listened to them. And their own news of the war, and their attempts to spin their failures, are so delusional I have seen SJW's that were more comprehensible. They lie about things I know didnt happen because I watched it happen. They still operate under a delusion that they would be able to overrun Europe, and that they should when they are done in Ukraine (that sound you hear is Poland giddy in the corner and itching for a fight). They are honestly starting to sound not too far off from what I remember of Soviet newscasters. So I question why you and others take them at face value either, when it is obvious to anyone who watches the damn footage you are being lied to. Just compare a map of Ukraine now to a map about a year ago, and tell me with a straight face Russia will win this. Maybe Donbass, but Ukraine will stand defiant. And I can live with that.