But for some reason, countries with 'universal healthcare' spend less on health care than the US with better health outcomes.

Outcomes have a lot to do with inputs. It does not follow that simply switching the US over to single payer would result in any sort of good. You'd also have to get rid of all the profiteering and corruption, and I just don't see any reason turning more over to government would do that.

It's kind of like defense spending. Other countries spend immensely less on defense, even per capita, with similar "outcomes" (they still have a country). But the government is already in charge of defense spending. And yet they're constantly trying to turn things over to the private sector, use "commercial off the shelf" etc. There is no reason to think creating a single payer Defense Spending Agency would be anything but a boondoggle.

The US doesn't have private health care -- the government is immensely involved, and we don't have public health care, either. We were supposed to have universal healthcare care of Obama, but I'm sure the same people who always whined about it will claim we don't. You can't trust the government to take care of you, and you can't trust our corporatocracy, either. Bad healthcare is just a symptom of the rot, not due to any lack of planning.

But for some reason, countries with 'universal healthcare' spend less on health care than the US with better health outcomes.

Outcomes have a lot to do with inputs. It does not follow that simply switching the US over to single payer would result in any sort of good. You'd also have to get rid of all the profiteering and corruption, and I just don't see any reason turning more over to government would do that.

It's kind of like defense spending. Other countries spend immensely less on defense, even per capita, with similar "outcomes" (they still have a country). But the government is already in charge of defense spending. And yet they're constantly trying to turn things over to the private sector, use "commercial off the shelf" etc. There is no reason to think creating a single payer Defense Spending Agency would be anything but a boondoggle.