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If so, it should have been the only axis of attack.

What if it had failed as it did here? Ukraine would have been able to, with its superior manpower, encircle the entire army. The elimination of the entire army would have been quite disastrous. Even the Von Manstein plan provided for an 'attack' on the Maginot Line, along with the two other pushes that were to do that actual work.

Let's be frank here. 170,000 is too few. That's actually a reason I was skeptical that Russia would invade. The only way they could win in the manner they wanted was through a coup de main. You could mobilize but then the element of surprise is lost.

Do you think it's a good strategy to commit to a plan where "if they give up, we win, but if they don't, we lose"?

Rumors have it that Vova got bad intelligence from the FSB and that high officials were placed under house arrest. But given the assumption that he only needed to kick in the door for the entire rotten structure to collapse, this was probably rational.

Especially as I will continue to hold that Russia literally cannot lose. You probably would have been crowing a few months into the Winter War. Of course, the Mannerheim Line was about to collapse, but the Fins leveraged their resistance into a mild peace treaty (which still lost them more than Stalin's prewar offers).

Yeah the idea that the US govt thought Ukraine would collapse is just propaganda. PRIVATE ANALYSTS thought so, because they still believed in the myth of "Russia Stronk", but I do not think that the US military thought so.

Then I wonder what their business was announcing it to the world. It would demoralize their puppets. But I think it may have shocked their dupes and slaves in Europe to impose harsher sanctions on Russia than anyone planned for.

Time is not on Russia's side. Russia continues to lose equipment at a 2-3 to 1 ratio against Ukraine. Ukraine captures a ton of Russian equipment because Russians have poor morale and abandon it often. Ukraine continues to get a trickle of top quality NATO systems, which are not getting destroyed at all

They're not even getting enough ammunition + your precious HIMARS is blown to bits by freaking Iranian drones. That's almost as humiliating as losing to the Taliban.

Russia has all those Soviet-era factories plus natural resources that can pump out unlimited amounts of equipment, which is why they are so careless with it.

Russia has no counter to HIMARS

Asphalt.

Russia is already fighting a strictly defensive war, as I predicted months ago when I wrote posts saying that Russian power would grind down to exhaustion and then operational initiative would shift to Ukraine. That's exactly what has happened. Russia hasn't launched any non-local offensives since it squeezed Ukraine out of Lysychansk in early July, almost 3 months ago.

And now they're getting 300,000 extra troops. NATO will be overwhelmed. They've been losing to a skeleton army of 170,000 so far. And now they're going to beat 470,000? I'll believe it when I see it. Let's hope they don't, because if they do - the nuclear weapons will come out.

But obviously, you are incorrect. The side with 4x as many people and 15x the GDP is going to win, if it wants to. And I don't see Russia abandoning as central a territory as Ukraine. Perhaps Galicia.

Energy prices spiked in August because the EU went on a buying frenzy to build up stockpiles for the winter. Now that they have done so, prices have fallen throughout September. The crisis is over. Russia's threats are empty. The EU already paid its pain up front and has reserves now.

So called experts are predicting disaster. I always take experts with a grain of salt, but let's see. It would be glorious if both American world hegemony and the Fourth Reich collapsed due to Uncle Vova. You know as well as I do that if he succeeds in swallowing Ukraine, and forms a new Union Treaty with Belarus and Kazachstan, he will go down as greater than Peter the Great.

2 years ago
1 score
Reason: Original

If so, it should have been the only axis of attack.

What if it had failed as it did here? Ukraine would have been able to, with its superior manpower, encircle the entire army. The elimination of the entire army would have been quite disastrous. Even the Von Manstein plan provided for an 'attack' on the Maginot Line, along with the two other pushes that were to do that actual work.

Let's be frank here. 170,000 is too few. That's actually a reason I was skeptical that Russia would invade. The only way they could win in the manner they wanted was through a coup de main. You could mobilize but then the element of surprise is lost.

Do you think it's a good strategy to commit to a plan where "if they give up, we win, but if they don't, we lose"?

Rumors have it that Vova got bad intelligence from the FSB and that high officials were placed under house arrest. But given the assumption that he only needed to kick in the door for the entire rotten structure to collapse, this was probably rational.

Especially as I will continue to hold that Russia literally cannot lose. You probably would have been crowing a few months into the Winter War. Of course, the Mannerheim Line was about to collapse, but the Fins leveraged their resistance into a mild peace treaty (which still lost them more than Stalin's prewar offers).

Yeah the idea that the US govt thought Ukraine would collapse is just propaganda. PRIVATE ANALYSTS thought so, because they still believed in the myth of "Russia Stronk", but I do not think that the US military thought so.

Then I wonder what their business was announcing it to the world. It would demoralize their puppets. But I think it may have shocked their dupes and slaves in Europe to impose harsher sanctions on Russia than anyone planned for.

Time is not on Russia's side. Russia continues to lose equipment at a 2-3 to 1 ratio against Ukraine. Ukraine captures a ton of Russian equipment because Russians have poor morale and abandon it often. Ukraine continues to get a trickle of top quality NATO systems, which are not getting destroyed at all

They're not even getting enough ammunition + your precious HIMARS is blown to bits by freaking Iranian drones. That's almost as humiliating as losing to the Taliban.

Russia has all those Soviet-era factories plus natural resources that can pump out unlimited amounts of equipment, which is why they are so careless with it.

Russia has no counter to HIMARS

Asphalt.

Russia is already fighting a strictly defensive war, as I predicted months ago when I wrote posts saying that Russian power would grind down to exhaustion and then operational initiative would shift to Ukraine. That's exactly what has happened. Russia hasn't launched any non-local offensives since it squeezed Ukraine out of Lysychansk in early July, almost 3 months ago.

And now they're getting 300,000 extra troops. NATO will be overwhelmed. They've been losing to a skeleton army of 170,000 so far. And now they're going to beat 470,000? I'll believe it when I see it. Let's hope they don't, because if they do - the nuclear weapons will come out.

Energy prices spiked in August because the EU went on a buying frenzy to build up stockpiles for the winter. Now that they have done so, prices have fallen throughout September. The crisis is over. Russia's threats are empty. The EU already paid its pain up front and has reserves now.

So called experts are predicting disaster. I always take experts with a grain of salt, but let's see. It would be glorious if both American world hegemony and the Fourth Reich collapsed due to Uncle Vova.

2 years ago
1 score