I guess all of history was just 'socialism'. Society has to be made ready for Victorianism first.

Victorianism was enforced bottom-up through social shaming, instead of top-down through socialism. Throughout history governments were usually very weak and did not interfere much in day to day society. Governments really only cared about collecting taxes, keeping some minimal law and order, and being able to raise money/troops for whatever project/war the current king/emperor was working on.

Ultimately things like this are controlled through cultural norms, not the law. When the two conflict, the social forces are only held back temporarily, and then you get the Stonewall Riots and 50 years of LGBTs trying to rise up to dominate society and the culture because not enough people are willing to stop them (which is thankfully changing now).

That is why it is critical, if you want to win, that you CONVINCE the majority of society to follow your values and SELL them on it. Just like with a military occupation and insurgency, it comes down to winning hearts and minds. [I maintain the US lost in Afghanistan because in 20 years, we could not convince muslim men to suddenly adopt liberal western values, which was never going to happen. Had we just been like "yeah sharia law is fine, we don't care about women's rights" the war would have been over in a couple years and Afghanistan would have stabilized.]

If the LGBTs had stopped short of their current lunacy, they would have kept a lot of cultural power pretty much forever. Since they pushed too far and have been creating a backlash against them, they are going to end up with a society where the unthinkable happens: people are actually "allowed" to be anti-LGBT to a considerable degree. The same will eventually be true with blacks. Every business BLM burns brings society one step closer to calling them niggers again. Now, I doubt we will see things go that far, but you get the point:

Once your side is winning, the smart move is to bunker down once you get most of your goals met without pushing too far, so that you keep the culture just a little bit skewed in your favor, but not enough to fuel a backlash. Any movement that goals all gas no brakes is inevitably going to create a backlash and eventual equilibrium against it. I'd like to see that stop with the coming Red Wave. If the Right can be responsible with its power, it will actually get to keep power and we can keep the wokes away for that much longer.

I guess all of history was just 'socialism'. Society has to be made ready for Victorianism first.

Victorianism was enforced bottom-up through social shaming, instead of top-down through socialism. Throughout history governments were usually very weak and did not interfere much in day to day society. Governments really only cared about collecting taxes, keeping some minimal law and order, and being able to raise money/troops for whatever project/war the current king/emperor was working on.

Ultimately things like this are controlled through cultural norms, not the law. When the two conflict, the social forces are only held back temporarily, and then you get the Stonewall Riots and 50 years of LGBTs trying to rise up to dominate society and the culture because not enough people are willing to stop them (which is thankfully changing now).

That is why it is critical, if you want to win, that you CONVINCE the majority of society to follow your values and SELL them on it. Just like with a military occupation and insurgency, it comes down to winning hearts and minds.

If the LGBTs had stopped short of their current lunacy, they would have kept a lot of cultural power pretty much forever. Since they pushed too far and have been creating a backlash against them, they are going to end up with a society where the unthinkable happens: people are actually "allowed" to be anti-LGBT to a considerable degree. The same will eventually be true with blacks. Every business BLM burns brings society one step closer to calling them niggers again. Now, I doubt we will see things go that far, but you get the point:

Once your side is winning, the smart move is to bunker down once you get most of your goals met without pushing too far, so that you keep the culture just a little bit skewed in your favor, but not enough to fuel a backlash. Any movement that goals all gas no brakes is inevitably going to create a backlash and eventual equilibrium against it. I'd like to see that stop with the coming Red Wave. If the Right can be responsible with its power, it will actually get to keep power and we can keep the wokes away for that much longer.