Lmao, fantastic. The US was never meant to have post-French-Revolution-style laicite, just a lack of a singular established church (that is, a government church akin to Anglicanism), as if the disgust and horror the same Founders who wrote letters discussing the topic had for the French Revolution didn't make it obvious enough. And Engel v. Vitale was the beginning of the progressive offensive against every tradition that kept American society (and indeed any other healthy human society) functioning which got rolling in the 1960s.

Because I'm sure someone else will bring it up, I'd like to point to the fact that yes, the Engel in Engel v. Vitale was a Jew. In fact the plaintiffs were all Jews (including one Jewish atheist who later claimed he was actually religious, in a way that makes him sound like a member of the Reform Synagogue of Satan) with the exception of a Unitarian, one of the original turbocucked fake '''''Christian'''' churches which has since merged into the even more openly hollow and vapid Unitarian Universalists.

The case was brought by a group of families of public school students in New Hyde Park from the Herricks Union Free School District who sued the school board president William J. Vitale, Jr.[7][8] The families argued that the voluntary prayer written by the state board of regents to "Almighty God" contradicted their religious beliefs. Led by Steven I. Engel, a Jewish man,[9] the plaintiffs sought to challenge the constitutionality of the state's prayer in school policy. They were supported by groups opposed to the school prayer including rabbinical organizations, Ethical Culture, and Jewish organizations.

The acting parties were not members of one particular religious persuasion, or all atheists. Their religious identities were legally identified in court paperwork as two Jews, an atheist, a Unitarian church member, and a member of the New York Society for Ethical Culture.[10] However, despite being listed in the court papers as an atheist, plaintiff Lawrence Roth, who was raised Jewish,[10] later denied that he was an atheist and described himself as religious and a participant of prayer.[10] When religious affiliation was discussed during preparations for the case, Roth claimed he was "a very religious person, but not a churchgoer" and that he said prayers but was unsure of what prayer could accomplish.[10] This resulted in the group's lawyer telling him "You're the atheist."[10] Roth later stated "apparently, you have to have an atheist in the crowd, so we started from there."[10]

Well, regardless of what this first wave of progressive shitbags were, whatever chips away at the victory which the devilish Warren Court handed them can only be a good thing. The Roberts Court, in the case of Carson v. Makin and Kennedy v. Bremerton School District astonishingly including Roberts himself, has struck at the very root of the cultural revolution the left have tried to force down America's throat for the past seventy years.

Conservatives despaired. As one conservative Christian wrote in 1965, the end of school prayer meant the end of American Christianity itself. The Schempp decision, he warned, was only the start of “repression, restriction, harassment, and then outright persecution.” From the conservative evangelical Biola University, near Los Angeles, President Samuel Sutherland concluded that the decision and the failure of a constitutional amendment signaled America’s transformation into “an atheistic nation, no whit better than God-denying, God-defying Russia herself.”

Yeah well, look at the state of America today. These oldschool fundies were right on the fucking money, just like the generation immediately after them would be spot-on when they predicted the consequences of the Sexual Revolution and gay marriage only to be mocked & ignored just as Israel & Judah treated the prophets who warned them of where their degeneracy would lead 1500-2000 years ago.

Lmao, fantastic. The US was never meant to have post-French-Revolution-style laicite, just a lack of a singular established church (that is, a government church akin to Anglicanism), as if the disgust and horror the same Founders who wrote letters discussing the topic had for the French Revolution didn't make it obvious enough. And Engel v. Vitale was the beginning of the progressive offensive against every tradition that kept American society (and indeed any other healthy human society) functioning which got rolling in the 1960s.

Because I'm sure someone else will bring it up, I'd like to point to the fact that yes, the Engel in Engel v. Vitale was a Jew. In fact the plaintiffs were all Jews (including one Jewish atheist who later claimed he was actually religious, in a way that makes him sound like a member of the Reform Synagogue of Satan) with the exception of a Unitarian, one of the original turbocucked fake '''''Christian'''' churches which has since merged into the even more openly hollow and vapid Unitarian Universalists.

The case was brought by a group of families of public school students in New Hyde Park from the Herricks Union Free School District who sued the school board president William J. Vitale, Jr.[7][8] The families argued that the voluntary prayer written by the state board of regents to "Almighty God" contradicted their religious beliefs. Led by Steven I. Engel, a Jewish man,[9] the plaintiffs sought to challenge the constitutionality of the state's prayer in school policy. They were supported by groups opposed to the school prayer including rabbinical organizations, Ethical Culture, and Jewish organizations.

The acting parties were not members of one particular religious persuasion, or all atheists. Their religious identities were legally identified in court paperwork as two Jews, an atheist, a Unitarian church member, and a member of the New York Society for Ethical Culture.[10] However, despite being listed in the court papers as an atheist, plaintiff Lawrence Roth, who was raised Jewish,[10] later denied that he was an atheist and described himself as religious and a participant of prayer.[10] When religious affiliation was discussed during preparations for the case, Roth claimed he was "a very religious person, but not a churchgoer" and that he said prayers but was unsure of what prayer could accomplish.[10] This resulted in the group's lawyer telling him "You're the atheist."[10] Roth later stated "apparently, you have to have an atheist in the crowd, so we started from there."[10]

Well, regardless of what this first wave of progressive shitbags were, whatever chips away at the victory which the devilish Warren Court handed them can only be a good thing. The Roberts Court, in the case of Carson v. Makin and Kennedy v. Bremerton School District astonishingly including Roberts himself, has struck at the very root of the cultural revolution the left have tried to force down America's throat for the past seventy years.

Conservatives despaired. As one conservative Christian wrote in 1965, the end of school prayer meant the end of American Christianity itself. The Schempp decision, he warned, was only the start of “repression, restriction, harassment, and then outright persecution.” From the conservative evangelical Biola University, near Los Angeles, President Samuel Sutherland concluded that the decision and the failure of a constitutional amendment signaled America’s transformation into “an atheistic nation, no whit better than God-denying, God-defying Russia herself.”

Yeah well, look at the state of America today. These oldschool fundies were right on the fucking money, just like the generation immediately after them would be spot-on when they predicted the consequences of the Sexual Revolution and gay marriage only to be mocked & ignored just as Israel & Judah treated the prophets who warned them of where their degeneracy would lead 1500-2000 years ago.

Lmao, fantastic. The US was never meant to have post-French-Revolution-style laicite, just a lack of a singular established church (that is, a government church akin to Anglicanism), as if the disgust and horror the same Founders who wrote letters discussing the topic had for the French Revolution didn't make it obvious enough. And Engel v. Vitale was the beginning of the progressive offensive against every tradition that kept American society (and indeed any other healthy human society) functioning which got rolling in the 1960s.

Because I'm sure someone else will bring it up, I'd like to point to the fact that yes, the Engel in Engel v. Vitale was a Jew. In fact the plaintiffs were all Jews (including one Jewish atheist who later claimed he was actually religious, in a way that makes him sound like a member of the Reform Synagogue of Satan) with the exception of a Unitarian, one of the original turbocucked fake '''''Christian'''' churches which has since merged into the even more openly hollow and vapid Unitarian Universalists.

The case was brought by a group of families of public school students in New Hyde Park from the Herricks Union Free School District who sued the school board president William J. Vitale, Jr.[7][8] The families argued that the voluntary prayer written by the state board of regents to "Almighty God" contradicted their religious beliefs. Led by Steven I. Engel, a Jewish man,[9] the plaintiffs sought to challenge the constitutionality of the state's prayer in school policy. They were supported by groups opposed to the school prayer including rabbinical organizations, Ethical Culture, and Jewish organizations.

The acting parties were not members of one particular religious persuasion, or all atheists. Their religious identities were legally identified in court paperwork as two Jews, an atheist, a Unitarian church member, and a member of the New York Society for Ethical Culture.[10] However, despite being listed in the court papers as an atheist, plaintiff Lawrence Roth, who was raised Jewish,[10] later denied that he was an atheist and described himself as religious and a participant of prayer.[10] When religious affiliation was discussed during preparations for the case, Roth claimed he was "a very religious person, but not a churchgoer" and that he said prayers but was unsure of what prayer could accomplish.[10] This resulted in the group's lawyer telling him "You're the atheist."[10] Roth later stated "apparently, you have to have an atheist in the crowd, so we started from there."[10]

Well, regardless of what this first wave of progressive shitbags were, whatever chips away at the victory which the devilish Warren Court handed them can only be a good thing. The Roberts Court, in the case of Carson v. Makin and Kennedy v. Bremerton School District astonishingly including Roberts himself, has struck at the very root of the cultural revolution the left have tried to force down America's throat for the past seventy years.