Cruel mocking dosen't work and usually result in self-pity bitterness that the fattie comforts with eating to forget the bad fee-feels.
This has a sociological role though, to encourage other people who make an effort to stick to it. But the immediate target is not benefiting of that, so a loved one won't benefit from "tough love".
Don't bother touching their overeating problem with other people around = instant defensiveness and other people comforting the fattie with more lies that nothing is their fault. It will just reinforce the Fatlogic delusion.
Methodically pointing the secreat eating with a reasonably acurate calorie count vs caloric needs has better results. ( But Fat Acceptance cultists consider that to be fatshaming anyway. )
The fattie's gears can start moving and bypass the stupid misinformation on the TV, news, magasines that told them nothing is their fault and "diets don't work" if the fattie can see you using the food scale, eat reasonable portions of anything, junkfood included, etc and mimic your portions.
Of course this is not always easy if you don't have the same caloric needs as the fattie and some hand-holding may be necessary to encourage sticking to portion sizes appropriate to them.
Explaining caloric needs helps alleviate some of the fattie's frustration if you're taller or exercise more. They need a motivation to change, though. Type 2 diabetes knocking at the door is rather motivating.
Cruel mocking dosen't work and usually result in self-pity bitterness that the fattie comforts with eating to forget the bad fee-feels.
This has a sociological role though, to encourage other people who make an effort to stick to it. But the immediate target is not benefiting of that, so a loved one won't benefit from "tough love".
Don't bother touching their overeating problem with other people around = instant defensiveness and other people comforting the fattie with more lies that nothing is their fault. It will just reinforce the Fatlogic delusion.
Methodically pointing the secreat eating with a reasonably acurate calorie count vs caloric needs has better results. ( But Fat Acceptance cultists consider that to be fatshaming anyway. )
The fattie's gears can start moving and bypass the stupid misinformation on the TV, news, magasines that told them nothing is their fault and "diets don't work" if the fattie can see you using the food scale, eat reasonable portions of anything, junkfood included, etc and mimic your portions.
Of course this is not always easy if you don't have the same caloric needs as the fattie and some hand-holding may be necessary to encourage sticking to portion sizes appropriate to them.
Explaining caloric needs helps alleviate some of the fattie's frustration if you're taller or exercise more.