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Listen... When your General is fluffing up the people who murdered your friends, and tells you to just "give them time", that means that your General is accepting your former enemies without conditions.

What is the term for an unconditional defeat, that recognizes the authority of your enemies?

It's not just a loss. It's a surrender.

NATO forces surrendered Afghanistan.

This is, genuinely, one of the greatest military defeats in American history, and certainly the biggest defeat of NATO forces ever.

Genuinely this is way more total of a defeat than the NVA invasion of South Vietnam in 1975. We were officially supposed to be out of Vietnam, and the ARVN's did fight back. Not to mention, we're still discussing that there may be up to 15,000 American citizens now trapped behind enemy lines, that the Biden Regime has admitted they are no longer capable of getting back.

We're talking about:

  • The Battle of Bladensburg (1814) - Led to the evacuation of the Federal government, and the burning of the Whitehouse. City of Baltimore in Peril. American forces fought badly, but did fight.
  • The Battle of Long Island (1776) - Disastrous rout that lost New York City (lost for the remainder of hostilities), and would eventually lead to the fall of Fort Washington & Fort Lee, with the Continental Army in almost total ruin, leading to the temporary re-seizure of New Jersey. American forces fought courageously, but were flanked, over-run, and routed.
  • The Battle of the Philippines (1941-1942) - Total loss of Philippines (US territory). Took many months and significant casualties. Was not surrendered, but was forced out with heavy casualties.
  • The Battle of Osan (1951) - Initial US contact with North Korean forces in Korean War. American forces were surprised, poorly equipped, out-gunned, and out-numbered. Decisive defeat. American forces were routed South, lost most of South Korea, and were unable to mount much resistance until weeks later to to lack of anti-armor weaponry.
  • Siege of Fort Detroit (1812) - Probably the most complete and total failure on this list. American forces and Ohio militiamen were besieged by Indian and British forces for 2 days, until the commander of the garrison surrendered fearing Indian atrocities due to sheer panic and paranoia, despite outnumbering the British-Indian attackers. This is the only known surrender of domestic, continental, US territory to a foreign adversary. Being annoyed at the lack of battle and booty, Indian forces attacked the surrendered American garrison in small numbers anyway to plunder them.

The Surrender of Afghanistan (2021) genuinely falls somewhere in this list.

3 years ago
9 score
Reason: Original

Listen... When your General is fluffing up the people who murdered your friends, and tells you to just "give them time", that means that your General is accepting your former enemies without conditions.

What is the term for an unconditional defeat, that recognizes the authority of your enemies?

It's not just a loss. It's a surrender.

NATO forces surrendered Afghanistan.

This is, genuinely, one of the greatest military defeats in American history, and certainly the biggest defeat of NATO forces ever.

Genuinely this is way more total of a defeat than the NVA invasion of South Vietnam in 1975. We were officially supposed to be out of Vietnam, and the ARVN's did fight back. Not to mention, we're still discussing that there may be up to 15,000 American citizens now trapped behind enemy lines, that the Biden Regime has admitted they are no longer capable of getting back.

We're talking about:

  • The Battle of Bladensburg (1814) - Led to the evacuation of the Federal government, and the burning of the Whitehouse. City of Baltimore in Peril. American forces fought badly, but did fight.
  • The Battle of Long Island (1776) - Disastrous route that lost New York City (lost for the remainder of hostilities), and would eventually lead to the fall of Fort Washington & Fort Lee, with the Continental Army in almost total ruin, leading to the temporary re-seizure of New Jersey. American forces fought courageously, but were flanked, over-run, and routed.
  • The Battle of the Philippines (1941-1942) - Total loss of Philippines (US territory). Took many months and significant casualties. Was not surrendered, but was forced out with heavy casualties.
  • The Battle of Osan (1951) - Initial US contact with North Korean forces in Korean War. American forces were surprised, poorly equipped, out-gunned, and out-numbered. Decisive defeat. American forces were routed South, lost most of South Korea, and were unable to mount much resistance until weeks later to to lack of anti-armor weaponry.
  • Siege of Fort Detroit (1812) - Probably the most complete and total failure on this list. American forces and Ohio militiamen were besieged by Indian and British forces for 2 days, until the commander of the garrison surrendered fearing Indian atrocities due to sheer panic and paranoia, despite outnumbering the British-Indian attackers. This is the only known surrender of domestic, continental, US territory to a foreign adversary. Being annoyed at the lack of battle and booty, Indian forces attacked the surrendered American garrison in small numbers anyway to plunder them.

The Surrender of Afghanistan (2021) genuinely falls somewhere in this list.

3 years ago
1 score