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How do you explain the huge excess mortality during COVID and the instant drop off when vaccines came around?

What do you mean "huge excess of mortality"? Are you talking about mortality in general or COVID-induced mortality? Because if it's the latter the tracking from health institutions has been to rate mortality for people WITH COVID, and not people who died FROM COVID. That's why when people began actually looking at the raw numbers, they discovered that COVID has a 99.7% survival rate, even as admitted to inadvertently by the CDC.

So if it has a 99.7% survival rate, what is this "huge" excess of mortality related to?

If you're talking about death rates per capita, well of course you would see a higher toll due to the lockdowns, which have proven not to work: https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F37aa8556-a1ce-4d5a-a55d-2d05aad1c62f_1344x756.png

So you now have to account for suicides induced by the lockdown, mortality induced by crime rates increasing across police-defunded cities, as well as other lockdown related deaths (i.e., alcohol, drug use, domestic abuse, overdoses, etc., etc., etc).

Is the CDC just straight up lying about how many people die in the U.S.?

According to the CDC the total death rates increased year-over-year by 15.9%: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm .

But how they account for the deaths is masked in weasel-wording.

For instance...

COVID-19 was reported as the underlying cause of death or a contributing cause of death for an estimated 377,883 (11.3%) of those deaths (91.5 deaths per 100,000).

Okay, so how many of those had a comorbidity? And how many of those people who may have been battling a secondary illness died with COVID? They don't say. And they merge together "underlying cause" and "contributing cause" together, and they provide ZERO stats on the "only cause".

So this goes back to my original point: how many people actually died strictly FROM COVID compared to people who died WITH COVID?

According to various reports last year, the CDC and some health officials were literally counting all sorts of extraneous deaths as COVID-related, even accidents, gunshot wounds: https://www.westernjournal.com/county-counted-car-crash-covid-death-finds-inflated-virus-death-toll-25-percent/

Motorcycle accidents: https://cbs12.com/news/local/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-crash-counted-as-covid-19-death-in-florida-report

And even brain injuries: https://www.globalresearch.ca/gunshot-head-parkinsons-disease-deaths-palm-beach-incorrectly-attributed-covid-19/5719528

They say that it was a third-leading cause of death for those over the age of 85, but as mentioned before, how many of those people had other illnesses or comorbidities?

But to further my point about the CDC's weasel-words, this highlights it perfectly...

""The highest age-adjusted death rates by age, race/ethnicity, and sex occurred among adults aged ≥85 years, non-Hispanic Black or African American (Black) and non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native (AI/AN) persons, and males. "

So blacks under the age of 85 died the MOST in 2020, but they don't explicitly say from what. Hmm, could that be related to all the black-on-black violence happening at a rapid uptick across the country?

Well, gun-violence did see a record uptick in 2020: https://www.businessinsider.com/2020-more-gun-deaths-than-any-year-over-two-decades-2021-3

And to my point, stats show that murder rates were up overall by 30%, especially in... ding, ding, ding... minority occupied cities: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9211217/US-murder-rates-2020-soar-30-cent-no-modern-precedent.html

What about suicide rates?

Well, good luck finding a reputable source. Even the CDC's latest figures are from 2019 and not 2020, and all the mainstream media outlets are saying "suicides are down", but also inadvertently admitting that tracking has become muddied because they aren't rating certain deaths as suicides, such as overdoses, as admitted to by the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/health/coronavirus-suicide-cdc.html

This passage here speaks volumes, though...

The decline came even as the number of unintentional overdose deaths rose dramatically during the pandemic. Some overdoses are classified as suicides; there is debate among researchers as to how many ought to be included.

Oh great, so now how many suicides may have been misreported as something else? What if you committed suicide but had COVID? What if you committed suicide by jumping off a bridge into water and had COVID? Do they count that as COVID-induced drowning?

I'm not kidding, the data has literally become muddled, and any reputable researcher reporting on actual infection/death rates have been censored: https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/08/17/covid-censor/

Those who were tracking the figures and comparing the data noticed a discrepancy in the actual death rates of COVID, and pointed out that -- just like I mentioned above -- death rates for lots of other categories were up overall throughout the year, but were being attributed to COVID: https://thetruthaboutcancer.com/cdc-inflates-coronavirus-deaths/

Anyone who has actually been attempting to track the data knows how faulty the data-tracking put out by the mainstream media actually is. One of the estimates -- even according to the CDC at the time -- reported that only 6% of reported COVID deaths were actually due solely to COVID.

This sort of fits in line with some early MSM reporting that admitted 94% of people who reportedly died with COVID had an underlying medical issue: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-94percent-of-covid-19-deaths-had-underlying-medical-conditions/ar-BB18wrA7

3 years ago
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Reason: Added more info

How do you explain the huge excess mortality during COVID and the instant drop off when vaccines came around?

What do you mean "huge excess of mortality"? Are you talking about mortality in general or COVID-induced mortality? Because if it's the latter the tracking from health institutions has been to rate mortality for people WITH COVID, and not people who died FROM COVID. That's why when people began actually looking at the raw numbers, they discovered that COVID has a 99.7% survival rate, even as admitted to inadvertently by the CDC.

So if it has a 99.7% survival rate, what is this "huge" excess of mortality related to?

If you're talking about death rates per capita, well of course you would see a higher toll due to the lockdowns, which have proven not to work: https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F37aa8556-a1ce-4d5a-a55d-2d05aad1c62f_1344x756.png

So you now have to account for suicides induced by the lockdown, mortality induced by crime rates increasing across police-defunded cities, as well as other lockdown related deaths (i.e., alcohol, drug use, domestic abuse, overdoses, etc., etc., etc).

Is the CDC just straight up lying about how many people die in the U.S.?

According to the CDC the total death rates increased year-over-year by 15.9%: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm .

But how they account for the deaths is masked in weasel-wording.

For instance...

COVID-19 was reported as the underlying cause of death or a contributing cause of death for an estimated 377,883 (11.3%) of those deaths (91.5 deaths per 100,000).

Okay, so how many of those had a comorbidity? And how many of those people who may have been battling a secondary illness died with COVID? They don't say. And they merge together "underlying cause" and "contributing cause" together, and they provide ZERO stats on the "only cause".

So this goes back to my original point: how many people actually died strictly FROM COVID compared to people who died WITH COVID?

According to various reports last year, the CDC and some health officials were literally counting all sorts of extraneous deaths as COVID-related, even accidents, gunshot wounds: https://www.westernjournal.com/county-counted-car-crash-covid-death-finds-inflated-virus-death-toll-25-percent/

Motorcycle accidents: https://cbs12.com/news/local/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-crash-counted-as-covid-19-death-in-florida-report

And even brain injuries: https://www.globalresearch.ca/gunshot-head-parkinsons-disease-deaths-palm-beach-incorrectly-attributed-covid-19/5719528

They say that it was a third-leading cause of death for those over the age of 85, but as mentioned before, how many of those people had other illnesses or comorbidities?

But to further my point about the CDC's weasel-words, this highlights it perfectly...

**The highest age-adjusted death rates by age, race/ethnicity, and sex occurred among adults aged ≥85 years, non-Hispanic Black or African American (Black) and non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native (AI/AN) persons, and males. "

So blacks under the age of 85 died the MOST in 2020, but they don't explicitly say from what. Hmm, could that be related to all the black-on-black violence happening at a rapid uptick across the country?

Well, gun-violence did see a record uptick in 2020: https://www.businessinsider.com/2020-more-gun-deaths-than-any-year-over-two-decades-2021-3

And to my point, stats show that murder rates were up overall by 30%, especially in... ding, ding, ding... minority occupied cities: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9211217/US-murder-rates-2020-soar-30-cent-no-modern-precedent.html

What about suicide rates?

Well, good luck finding a reputable source. Even the CDC's latest figures are from 2019 and not 2020, and all the mainstream media outlets are saying "suicides are down", but also inadvertently admitting that tracking has become muddied because they aren't rating certain deaths as suicides, such as overdoses, as admitted to by the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/health/coronavirus-suicide-cdc.html

This passage here speaks volumes, though...

The decline came even as the number of unintentional overdose deaths rose dramatically during the pandemic. Some overdoses are classified as suicides; there is debate among researchers as to how many ought to be included.

Oh great, so now how many suicides may have been misreported as something else? What if you committed suicide but had COVID? What if you committed suicide by jumping off a bridge into water and had COVID? Do they count that as COVID-induced drowning?

I'm not kidding, the data has literally become muddled, and any reputable researcher reporting on actual infection/death rates have been censored: https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/08/17/covid-censor/

Those who were tracking the figures and comparing the data noticed a discrepancy in the actual death rates of COVID, and pointed out that -- just like I mentioned above -- death rates for lots of other categories were up overall throughout the year, but were being attributed to COVID: https://thetruthaboutcancer.com/cdc-inflates-coronavirus-deaths/

Anyone who has actually been attempting to track the data knows how faulty the data-tracking put out by the mainstream media actually is. One of the estimates -- even according to the CDC at the time -- reported that only 6% of reported COVID deaths were actually due solely to COVID.

This sort of fits in line with some early MSM reporting that admitted 94% of people who reportedly died with COVID had an underlying medical issue: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cdc-94percent-of-covid-19-deaths-had-underlying-medical-conditions/ar-BB18wrA7

3 years ago
1 score
Reason: Original

How do you explain the huge excess mortality during COVID and the instant drop off when vaccines came around?

What do you mean "huge excess of mortality"? Are you talking about mortality in general or COVID-induced mortality? Because if it's the latter the tracking from health institutions has been to rate mortality for people WITH COVID, and not people who died FROM COVID. That's why when people began actually looking at the raw numbers, they discovered that COVID has a 99.7% survival rate, even as admitted to inadvertently by the CDC.

So if it has a 99.7% survival rate, what is this "huge" excess of mortality related to?

If you're talking about death rates per capita, well of course you would see a higher toll due to the lockdowns, which have proven not to work: https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F37aa8556-a1ce-4d5a-a55d-2d05aad1c62f_1344x756.png

So you now have to account for suicides induced by the lockdown, mortality induced by crime rates increasing across police-defunded cities, as well as other lockdown related deaths (i.e., alcohol, drug use, domestic abuse, overdoses, etc., etc., etc).

Is the CDC just straight up lying about how many people die in the U.S.?

According to the CDC the total death rates increased year-over-year by 15.9%: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm .

But how they account for the deaths is masked in weasel-wording.

For instance...

**COVID-19 was reported as the underlying cause of death or a contributing cause of death for an estimated 377,883 (11.3%) of those deaths (91.5 deaths per 100,000).""

Okay, so how many of those had a comorbidity? And how many of those people who may have been battling a secondary illness died with COVID? They don't say. And they merge together "underlying cause" and "contributing cause" together, and they provide ZERO stats on the "only cause". So this goes back to my original point: how many people actually died strictly FROM COVID compared to people who died WITH COVID?

They say that it was a third-leading cause of death for those over the age of 85, but as mentioned before, how many of those people had other illnesses or comorbidities?

But to further my point about the CDC's weasel-words, this highlights it perfectly...

**The highest age-adjusted death rates by age, race/ethnicity, and sex occurred among adults aged ≥85 years, non-Hispanic Black or African American (Black) and non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native (AI/AN) persons, and males. "

So blacks under the age of 85 died the MOST in 2020, but they don't explicitly say from what. Hmm, could that be related to all the black-on-black violence happening at a rapid uptick across the country?

Well, gun-violence did see a record uptick in 2020: https://www.businessinsider.com/2020-more-gun-deaths-than-any-year-over-two-decades-2021-3

And to my point, stats show that murder rates were up overall by 30%, especially in... ding, ding, ding... minority occupied cities: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9211217/US-murder-rates-2020-soar-30-cent-no-modern-precedent.html

What about suicide rates?

Well, good luck finding a reputable source. Even the CDC's latest figures are from 2019 and not 2020, and all the mainstream media outlets are saying "suicides are down", but also inadvertently admitting that tracking has become muddied because they aren't rating certain deaths as suicides, such as overdoses, as admitted to by the New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/15/health/coronavirus-suicide-cdc.html

This passage here speaks volumes, though...

The decline came even as the number of unintentional overdose deaths rose dramatically during the pandemic. Some overdoses are classified as suicides; there is debate among researchers as to how many ought to be included.

Oh great, so now how many suicides may have been misreported as something else? What if you committed suicide but had COVID? What if you committed suicide by jumping off a bridge into water and had COVID? Do they count that as COVID-induced drowning?

I'm not kidding, the data has literally become muddled, and any reputable researcher reporting on actual infection/death rates have been censored: https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/08/17/covid-censor/

Those who were tracking the figures and comparing the data noticed a discrepancy in the actual death rates of COVID, and pointed out that -- just like I mentioned above -- death rates for lots of other categories were up overall throughout the year, but were being attributed to COVID: https://thetruthaboutcancer.com/cdc-inflates-coronavirus-deaths/

Anyone who has actually been attempting to track the data knows how faulty the data-tracking put out by the mainstream media actually is. One of the estimates -- even according to the CDC at the time -- reported that only 6% of reported COVID deaths were actually due solely to COVID.

3 years ago
1 score