Even without marriage the entire social care system is woman orientated. There's a difference between "runaway dads" who pumped and dumped in the 60s and the men now who are at the other end of the spectrum.

Were in a society where a man who isn't even the father of a child is on the hook for 18years, even with proof. We're in a society where a sperm donor can face the same fees, fines and maintenance charges if the mother demanded it.

They've dropped all these conditions and restrictions on the male component socially, financially and legally that its not worth the time effort or money to jump through the excessive hoops, only to then spend a further quarter of a million raising a child who will only become indoctrinated to either hate you, or themselves.

Lastly they've also completely ignored the medical reasons for low birth rates. My dad was a sibling of six, because three of them fecking died before age 10. Even in the UK housing sanitation didn't really clean up until late 60s,70s and big families were a continued thing because of poor medical advances.

Were now at a point where we HAVE to put everything in just one or two children. We can't afford to keep more and the medical services are at a state where we don't need to "breed in the spares" any more.

They're arguing that being at a replacement rate of 2 is bad... When really it's the opposite. Higher replacement rates generally mean lower quality of life. 2.4 children is the stereotype for a reason. It's the optimal number with some bucking the trend.

Even without marriage the entire social care system is woman orientated. There's a difference between "runaway dads" who pumped and dumped in the 60s and the men now who are at the other end of the spectrum.

Were in a society where a man who isn't even the father of a child is on the hook for 18years, even with proof. We're in a society where a sperm donor can face the same fees, fines and maintenance charges if the mother demanded it.

They've dropped all these conditions and restrictions on the male component socially, financially and legally that its not worth the time effort or money to jump through the excessive hoops, only to then spend a further quarter of a million raising a child who will only become indoctrinated to either hate you, or themselves.

Lastly they've also completely ignored the medical reasons for low birth rates. My dad was a sibling of six, because three of them fecking died before age 10. Even in the UK housing sanitation didn't really clean up until late 60s,70s and big families were a continued thing because of poor medical advances.

Were now at a point where we HAVE to put everything in just one or two children. We can't afford to keep more and the medical services are at a state where we don't need to "breed in the spares" any more.