This isn't the first, second, third, or fourth time we've been overrun by retards.
This shit is much more damaging to a community than any of what Dom lashes out against could ever be.
He claims to care about keeping this community healthy, but continually let's shit like this happen, while simultaneously over-moderating legitimate users. While also not listening to the users, the majority of which think his rules are bullshit and counterproductive.
Reminder that he recently said that this comic is "pushing race war" and...
What is the message of this comic? Pretty straight-forward: In the inter-temporal race war of jews against all civilization, the republican party exists to serve jews and jews alone.
He also says people here want to murder him and his family.
He's also said comparing cops reactions to BLM to reactions to anti-Israel protests is "Asserting hypnotic control of the police to foment an international race war."
It would be one (still bad) thing if he was spinning out, but was at least doing his job in moderating other things. But he's not. Again, he claims to want to keep things healthy here. Are things healthy here, with how he does (or worse, does not do) things?
I've defended him in the past, too. I'm not one of his die-hard haters. He's good on many issues, and I appreciate his hands-off approach when it comes to many issues. But there are issues he weighs in on that he shouldn't, and issues he needs to weigh in on that he doesn't, at least in a timely manner.
He's lost the fucking plot, and is pretty much tanking this community which would otherwise be completely functional. He's the biggest danger to this community at this point.
Apologies. I was sick and unable to get online at all. Most of the Brigands should be gone by now. Let me know if any are still up.
The fact that we have no backup mod is concerning in the extreme.
With his state of mind, I wouldn't be shocked if he didn't pull a...whatever-the-fuck-that-faggot's-names-was, over on half-KiA.
Dom loves to do mind reading, so I'll do some of my own; he hates a bunch of us here, for what he perceives to be our views. That's terrible for a mod.
He might very well try to nuke us to get back at us, if he's not already doing that. Some people are theorizing that he's behind these retards. I don't buy it, but it's a possibility given his mental state. Some of the other times he disappears, these retards spring up too. We never seem to have this invasion while he's around, so it is odd.
What if someone here would go to reddit and ask clockworkfool if he would come back here long enough to assign some mods?
Not the worst idea.
Doesn't solve the problem of if Dom decides to really shit the bed, but at least that would be overt, and could likely be called out and reversed.
It could be because when he's around he's actually banhammering them before they can really get up to speed.
For sure, it is sort of a semi-unfalsifiable claim, admittedly.
That said, I have looked through the mod logs a bit, and I haven't really seen a bunch of bans in a row. But, like you said, maybe it takes a while to get up to speed.
To be clear, I don't think he's behind these retards, just that it was a thought that occurred to me, and not just me.
What happened?
It was David-something, I think.
Back in the day on Reddit, he was technically the top mod and I believe creator of half-KiA, but was inactive for years. Came back as a fullblown leftist, nuked everything, tried to shut down the sub, but got booted by the admins...leading to rule by other only slightly less retarded faggots who proceeded to still ruin the thing.
daivid-me IIRC.
I believe that's correct, thanks.
It was David-Me, and that's literally not ever going to happen.
To be clear, I don't think it will happen either. Just saying, we don't have a backup, you do occasional spinout, you seem to think you can read peoples' minds, and you do despise at least some of the people here. You could get it into your head that we're all bad people, or something.
My point is there are no safety checks.
If I am elected mod, I shall hold weekly votes on who to ban! We shall string up the five most downvoted posters and all handshakes that week into the public square, and if any get a supermajority ban vote of commenting non-handshake posters, b&!
I like this, and we could do the reverse, bring back the previously condemned.
Give us the imp.
I don't think he's useless, but I'm confused why these pedophile handshakes are running amok while controversial-but-not-unreasonable comments from regular posters are being addressed.
To be fair, they're happening at different times. If/when he returns, he will ban almost every one of these retards, and every pedophile. He'll also probably ban a few regulars for noticing too hard or something.
But yeah, when he's not policing these morons, he's also not policing regulars. It's not like he's banning regulars while these pedos are active. These pedos are active when he's not around.
Yes I'm sure he'll take care of it in due time.
Then he'll say "we don't get enough traffic to warrant another mod" and pretend like everything is ok.
You shouldn't be a pedo, pedo.
Into the woodchipper you go, WEFoid pedo.
I was sick and couldn't get to them in a timely manner.
Even before his recent outbursts, looking at Dom's history going back to the beginning of the year shows him enforcing Rule 16 almost exclusively, with a few sprinkles of Rule 2 here and there, and doing so heavily. Maybe once in a while you saw him use a rule that wasn't #16 or #2.
In fact, after digging further, there is a noticeable shift in his overall behavior starting after the 10/7/23 Hamas attacks. Prior to that point, his enforcement of the rules was more "rounded" (for lack of a better word), disagreements and minor wigouts aside. It wasn't like now where he uses rule 16 to silence his personal critics, while letting obvious trolls and bad-faith participants run rampant.
And now he has been disappearing for a week or 2 at a time on top of that? Something has got to give...
Just as an aside, I can tell my prior comment to this one inspired this post. I don't put full stock into the "Dom's alts" theory either (I said as much, then), but the mere appearance of something going on is what made me pipe up.
Actually, that's the funny part. This occurred to multiple people at the same time. I was going to make this tread anyway, as I was sick of the bullshit, but I wasn't going to mention the 'Dom's alts' conspiracy theory (which, like you, I don't assert is true, just an interesting theory.)
Until I saw someone else saying it, here. So, yeah, a bunch of people were wondering what the fuck was going on here.
I haven't been rounding out how I enforce Rule 16 or 2
The only thing that got me after October 7th, was the fact that the NatSocs and Islamists somehow saw themselves on the same side. Something similar happened with the invasion of Ukraine because there were genuine NatSocs on both sides of the war in Russia and Ukraine, and the Americans NatSocs weren't clear on who to hate.
NatSocs always know who to hate, lol, and they can certainly hate two sides at once.
I wish that was true. Soon as it became October 8th, Muslims could do no wrong.
Curious that you don't even address most of the points made.
That's not at all what I said. I'm saying that your recent usage of Rules 16 or 2 (but mostly 16) is not only extremely excessive, but you are using flimsier and flimsier reasons to enforce it, and it didn't used to be like that. You used to be far more even with which rules you enforced (and how you enforced them), even if I had disagreements.
I've seen plenty of Islamist activity (considering they started the conflict in the first place), both here and outside this board. But as far as National Socialists (aka nazis, aka people the left doesn't like, etc), outside of a few calls for actual genocide here and there which are easily nipped in the bud (on this board), it seems to me that you are just chasing ghosts.
And speaking of chasing ghosts...
Other people have argued against this point already, so all I can ask at this point is what the actual fuck is wrong with you? Not only did you falsely accuse someone of wanting to kill you and your entire family, you now double down and conflate actual National Socialists with (presumably) most of the users here?! This is beyond the pale! Yes, they exist. Yes, they have a blood-soaked history (but not as much as Communism, or Genghis Khan, or Islam). They may even have become more active outside of this board, but you are acting like there are Neo-Nazis around every corner here!
Next...
I seriously want to know which circles you heard this gobbledygook from, because that is not at all what the comic said, not by a long shot...
I must ask:
Did you take Alex Jones' "interdimensional vampire goblins" clip, and then combine it in your head with the manufactured "goblins=jews" controversy from that Harry Potter game? Because that is the only way I can think of that makes what you said even remotely sensical. I've been in conspiracy-oriented circles for years and not once heard anything like what you just (falsely) described. The closest I've heard anything remotely close to what you (falsely) describe is a bunch of NSFL "Eyes Wide Shut" type of stuff (ie. the elites partaking in occult or otherwise satanic activities).
Finally...
That might explain this one time. What about all the other times you've gone MIA for as long as a week or 2 at a time, averaging 5 days? I would be somewhat more understanding if you are currently dealing with something like cancer or some other debilitating disease, or maybe you are working 60+ hours a week.
But barring that? Hire more mods, and then step down, DomitiusOfMassilia.
This last outbreak of trolls was the last straw for me (and others as well, I imagine). This was possibly the worst outbreak I've seen since the creation of KIA2win, and this isn't the first time that this has happened under your watch.
Some of them are. At least the ones that aren't also feds. I'm not willing to draw a fine distinction between how some of them ascribe to "White Nationalist" when they are simply National Socialists in all other ways. There are fewer genuine Fascists than NatSocs.
Read some Nazi texts and contrast them with the modern rhetoric. """White Nationalists""" shouldn't really be copy & pasting archaic theories of Aryanism, Judeo-Bolshevism, and Judeo-Capitalism to modern frameworks, but they do it anyway. In the end, it's crazed, jew-hating motivated reasoning; so they'll still just run with it regardless.
The only good news is that Aryanism is so retarded that even most of the modern NatSocs don't use it. No, hyperborean frost giants did not create Atlantis.
Dom, you really have lost the plot. Did National Socialists:
The answer to every single one of those questions is a resounding NO.
I'll repeat myself one more time: Hire more mods, and then step down, DomitiusOfMassilia. Several people in this comments section have already expressed their desire to volunteer as mods, but you (the only person who can add them, barring admin intervention) have intentionally ignored them. If this place gets shut down in the future, I am willing to bet that you and you alone will be to blame. Because, this time, we were invaded by pedophiles, will they start posting CP next? I don't want to have to find out.
Every single one of your ancestors was an anti semite, barring perhaps your parents and grandparents depending on their age, how do you reconcile that? Would your great grandparents want you dead as a race traitor or what? Why or why not?
None of my grand parents cared about jews. Several of them fought the Nazis. The Greatest Generation didn't even think to tolerate National Socialism in even the smallest margin, and White Nationalism didn't make sense. They wanted people to be Americans. I agree with that sentiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism_in_the_Americas
You realize America was a “white nationalist” country for the first...idk 200 or so years, at least, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790
If they're still alive, talk to the people of the era. Even the racists hated the Nazis. The German-American Bundt (which was explicitly a 5th Column) spent most of it's time convincing people it wasn't a Nazi front, and it burned most of the political capital it and other German-Ethnic organizations had from WW1 resisting actual anti-German discrimination.
That doesn't make it a White Nationalist country. White Nationalism literally didn't exist at the time because it is a very specific and unique ideology that rips off the German Volkish movement.
Then you have to have a discussion about who counts as "white" in this context, because typically the English basically used it as synonymous with British. That's why in some of the quotes you guys throw at me, you'll notice so much skepticism about Germans, Irish, and Catholics being able to integrate into a Liberal country. Not to mention that as time went on different groups were declared white based on intermarriage and culture.
Then you have the problem of citizenship itself, which re-emerges in the War of 1812 and the Dredd Scott Decision. American citizenship wasn't even clearly documented, and wasn't even acknowledged by some European states. When the British started impressing sailors that declared themselves to be American, the Royal Navy never really seemed to care, and congress didn't have a good way of explaining how citizenship was determined in the first place. Then there's the question of State Citizenship, which had different requirements, but could be declared US citizenship overall. This is why blacks were removed from citizenship by the Dredd Scott decision. Plenty of free blacks in the US already voted and held political office in several states, and their citizenship via the state was undisputed. But the court wanted to "solve" the issue of slavery, which stripped them of the citizenship they already had, which is already technically unconstitutional given what the constitution already establishes on state authority and unreasonable punishment.
The US has always been a Liberal country, not a White Nationalist one.
I've been noticing this kind of schizo double think a lot lately.
Why not just assign a couple of low-level mods to mop up the mess?
It would make too much sense? As well as give Dom less control, at least in the perception of the users here.
I've actually volunteered to mod before, and I fucking hate the idea of being a mod. But if it means giving the hammer to handshakes and pedos, and not letting this place turn into a total shitshow, it would be worth the sacrifice. I never got a response. You certainly wouldn't see this run of shitters if I was a mod.
So did I, 2 and a half years ago in October 2021. Nothing has changed though except the spamming getting worse and worse.
I feel like there should at the very least be extra hard clampdowns on people pulling obvious brigading tactics. You're right that this pedo shit is worse than anything being done by anyone so far and it's always people with a grudge that are trying to take the community or the site down.
ConsumeProduct spammers were fucking annoying too and I've ended up blocking them as a result when I realised where they were coming from but it was an unfortunately common tactic on reddit to spam child porn on sub to get them admin banned and this looks like the text equivalent. Surprised that they didn't use bots to try and make it look like everyone was agreeing with the bullshit.
Since KIA was meant to be about games more than anything I could shamelessly my community to you guys if you want and make it a bit more generalised. It's more about being really autistic out about dev work though I'm not too fussed about shitposting as long as it's not NPC behaviour which I think there's common ground on.
I wouldn't be shocked if it wasn't even leftists involved in this and it was simply the site eating itself and taking advantage of the mods' absence.
c/AltTechDev
Right? As abused as the 'bad faith' rule on Reddit was, or whatever, the purpose was sound. We just need transparency and accountability, then it wouldn't be a problem if the mods were a bit heavy handed on obvious invaders.
If you all but admit you want to ruin the site, you should be banned. You're here to actively and intentionally make the place worse, that's good enough for me.
As for using AltTechDev. Nah, no point fracturing quite yet, and it wouldn't make sense to take over an unrelated sub anyway. We're KiA, and should stay as such. I will check out your sub, though, as it does look interesting.
What a strangely specific denial, kiddie fucker. I know it's a lie, though.
That could be abused via handshake brigade against regular posters, though.
Oh yeah. That would not be good.
The problem is that when you explain the difference it makes you sound like a fucking pedophile.
See, that would be more believable if you didn’t keep slipping it down to 10/12/middle school in all your comments.
that's nice, but you're still going on the pike.
You're a kiddie fucker, mudslime filth. You don't get to have rights.
You are one of the trolls, folks want to wipe away because you have the gayest of incel turd takes.
Is that your grandma or something?
I assume you are white based on not aktually talking like a pajeet.
Eunice Winstead didn't even exist in your cited source. Cope and seethe harder, fedboy pedo.
Okay pajeet street shitter
Those kids you're trying to rape will gun you down, and it will be too funny.
PS: You will never breed, WEFcuck. :DDD
Right now the problem isn't even his opinions or his rules.
Its just the fact that he isn't around to do literally anything at all. There is no malice here, its just sheer no effort at all.
Correct, but I think it's important to call him out on both ends. If this was just a failure to show up once, but he was good over all, sure. Life happens. But there's a pattern of both bad modding, and repeat disappearances.
Yes, this is correct. That was my bad.
AHHHH he's a fucking kike, that explains everything, read his part about wanting to murder him and his family, and he wonders why we don't like his Tribe
What you're doing is following the depopulation agenda, you WEFoid useful idiot.
just mentioning in case people arnt aware. kia5 exists, just incase things get too bad.
I have no idea what any of this relates too or who everyone is and at this point I'm afraid to ask.
I just want to offer my humble opinion that I like this place.
I like this place too, but it needs to be taken care of better.
Surely you've noticed the string of alt accounts pushing actual pedophilia, right? And our mod was once again gone, so they rampaged around shitting up the place.
I'm not on enough to notice that really, I see retards posting retard stuff but it's downvoted pretty heavily and it's so stupid what's the point of doing anything but ignoring it?
The use of the phrase "INTER-TEMPORAL" has me dying lol...
Someone acts a certain way
Time passes
"We stand accused of INTER-TEMPORAL ACTS can you BELIEVE that??"
It's basically something that a racist artist would come up with for a cartoon that mocks the concept of pilpul.
I'm not active enough here to know all the lore, but why the fuck does there appear to only be one mod? Who the fuck can give mod status? This is retarded, every time I browse here for 15 minutes I see handfuls of pedo-trolls, Joo Shills, and other assorted retards who are clearly just here to be shit stirrers.
The one mod can give mod status, so...yeah.
Not all the time, but yeah. I wouldn't say it's as bad as that makes it sound, but we do occasionally get completely overrun, and that's still unacceptable.
Kia3 when? Lol
Hopefully never...but that's also what I said about KiA2. :(
Is it true that KIA1 is abandoned?
imploded from within is my understanding...way too purist about only talking ethics in journalism...
All roads lead to too much noticing. The only polite solution is to neuter maturation and development. You have to keep the community suspended at one or two politically acceptable epiphanies. Any further than that and you anger the powers that be.
KIA2 migrated to dot win first and (very stupidly) did not take the kia1 name. So the same people who ruined kia1 on Reddit also ended up with that name here, and that shit was DOA.
If I'm not mistaken, the .win admins set up the domains for both KIA and KIA2, because at the time we migrated each "community" was on its own domain. There was nothing the mods of either subreddit could've done (at the time) to affect that.
dr jester domain squatted up to 4. there is a kia5 though.
hit me up when you guys hit kia69, I may have a joke or two...
Why can't we just get two guys with ban powers to keep the spammers down. Should solve the problem overnight.
KotakuInAction3 wen?
Guessing it was ConPros and or Great Awakenings typical faggorty leaking over to KIA2 again.
Go back to reddit with this dramafagging.
You have noticed how this place went to shit in a big way, and not for the first time, right. We shouldn't even talk about that because 'drama,' huh?
Yeah. The NatSocs would do that. That's why I don't respect their claims regarding free speech, or oppression, or discrimination, or any such thing. It's obvious hypocrisy to everyone else, but they see it as an extension of the friend-enemy distinction. Anti-moral things done to anti-moral people are always moral. So the more evil it is, done to me and mine, the more good it is. It's a simple calculation.
Not the cops, just the way that the poster was making the argument. Had he left it as hypocrisy, it would have been fine.
I stand by this. This is the message of the comic, and it is the message of the NatSoc users. We both know that it is true.
Nope.
Nope.
Remember how you often deal with rule 12 reports?
That's what you're doing here.
You seem like a normal guy, why do you say this? Do you run a drag queen brunch every Sunday or something? Why would, what are basically “White Zionists”, seek to torture you to death as such? Do you not think that a jewish zionist would feel the same way about you? What is it about white zionists that makes you feel way more icky than jewish zionists?
The first time you wrote that I almost had to do a spit-take. Lol like others have said, you need to work on your Psy powers if you want to keep using mind reading in your moderation duties lol
Leftists are Leftists. They truly do see things only in the dynamics of power, and within a Friend-Enemy Distinction.
Any non-Leftist is automatically, and always, in the Anti-Moral classification of "Enemy". All bad things done to enemies are always good. It is always that simple.
The feminist will scream about rape being the worst crime that could be committed, and laugh at a man getting raped. A trade unionist will condemn poor working conditions, and then support the skinning of "skags". I remember Ziezek saying that people who chose not to get a 'vaccine' should be intentionally starved into submission. Over and over again, Leftists have shown a hunger for violence that is shocking and nearer to the surface than one can imagine. The NatSocs aren't any different.
So yeah, they would skin me alive so long as there was opportunity, resources, and an excuse; because skinning me alive is inherently moral.
And again, they're not the only ones. This is how all ideologically captured Leftists think. You just have to get used to it. It's like if you've ever lived in a town with a violent schizophrenic, or a wild animal. You have to live your life like normal until it actually does something against you.
Look, I'm just not being coy about their argument. It is what it is. A Feminist comic would be about how human males, build off of their deranged psychology, have used Capitalism and rape culture to steal women's wealth, keep them as chattel, and trade them as breeding slaves from father to father throughout all of time. Yeah, it's crass, and it sounds crazy, but that's because they believe crazy thins and I'm not going to pretend that Feminism is "just thinking women are human, bro".
Basically everything in that first bit was “people who truly believe the ends can justify the means will resort to horrible, monstrous actions”. I agree. But I disagree with the umbrella label “leftists” (I mean, theocratic Iran believes the ends justify the means too right? They aren’t left wing are they?)... I just honestly don’t see where you get your violent reaction to white ethnonationalism yet total ambivalence (seemingly) to jewish ethnonationalism. America isn’t ruled by white ethnonationalists I think we can conclusively say. Can you conclusively say it isnt run by jewish ethnonationalists though?
It's much more than ends-justify-means. It's not Utilitarianism. It's an obsession for power through conquest. And yes, this exists outside Leftism, but it is a core element of Leftist thinking and philosophy.
Ethno-nationalism isn't even the issue. I can even accept something like Irish Nationalism, or Iroquois Nationalism. First, "white" isn't an ethnicity. Second, Leftism adopts some forms of nationalism, including ethno-nationalism, as a skin-suit for it's philosophy of conquest. That's why the Irish Nationalist party of Shin Fein (who are Leftists) are currently claiming that Rishi Sunak is part of a Tory party Kabal to make Ireland hate immigrants. That's entirely disingenuous, and when they thought they could get away with it, they were violently attacking the Irish.
Ethno-Nationalism just doesn't have a place in the US, and Leftist Ethno-Nationalists aren't actual nationalists. This is the issue with the NatSocs and WN's. They aren't nationalists. They're Socialists, no different from Shin Fein or the Scottish National Party.
Is America ruled by jewish ethno-nationalists? No. October 7th proved that when the media started uncritically repeating Hamas propaganda, and Ben Shapiro was the only real Israeli influence at play. Even now, Israel has to deal with Biden trying to 'both-sides' the conflict.
Oh puh-fuckin-leese dude, as if 600 trillion gorillion dollars to kill mostly civilians while every campus protest is being shut down and every supporter blacklisted is “both-sidesing”.
Also Ben Shapiro posted an AI generated image of burnt brisket and tried to pass it off as a dead israeli baby. Lol as if you even have this stance I can’t imagine your information bubble if this is your honest opinion on things. Zionists (jewish ethnonationalists) run every branch of government and that isn’t even debatable, I could probably find statements affirming that very fact from their own mouths. You’ll never be able to do that for “america is a white/Christian/European founded nation” which was a pretty crazy inversion when you think about it
They really don't. Honestly, all of the shit we are seeing from politicians now is just posturing for wealthy jewish donors in finance. Israel's power in America hasn't been this weak in a long time and it's getting worse as the war continues; and they continue to completely lose the optics war.
Well, dude, look at the white Christians; particularly ethnic Anglos in America. Their rabid leftists. Whites are leading the charge towards white guilt, and it's disgusting & evil. It's the anglosphere that is particularly afflicted. Hell, it's one of the strange reasons that Trump has to have a multi-ethnic and multi-racial political coalition. He'll never get more than 68% of the white vote. He doesn't have a chance in New England because anglos are rabid Leftists. It's not jewish hypnosis or control. There's a problem among the anglo whites themselves. Good lord, look at what's become of Anglicanism.
Agreed with most of that, but I think the ultimate cause of those negative symptoms you identify is something outside of whites/ anglos /christiandom acting as a corrupting influence (i.e. money and those who control it, in the surface level analysis)
Ignoring that you're conflating "NatSoc users" in there, this YOU KNOW IM RIGHT dismissive form of argument is common in political debates, but isn't appropriate in moderation unless you're a TV judge.
At best you can argue that's the message of the comic, but I don't see it. Is the message that the republican party currently serves jews? Yes that's a reasonable conclusion. Nothing else you concluded is. No idea where the intertemporal race war stuff came from. The comic is clearly about the recent protests on campus leading to the GOP supporting anti-hate-speech legislation about jews specifically when they never did anything for whites in general, and a retard-memed MAGA supporter being a victim of his own doing. There may be an implied anti-Israel or anti-Jewish bias, but you have to read between the lines to find that. It does not make the claims you claim it does. The follow-up with a retard lefty amusingly concludes the point.
While I'm not one to normally care about votes, I do think the number of downvotes on the comment compared to the other on the page does indicate that many people silently disagreed with you. (or thought you sounded downright nutty) This fails the "what would a reasonable person have believed" legal standard of punishment. It's on the level of thinking someone destroying a rainbow flag - or just handing out pamphlets advocating the destruction of rainbow flags - means they want to kill all gays.
We both know that I'm right. :P
Even those are way too generous.
A better analogy would be someone saying "I don't think we should have hate speech laws to protect gays" and it being concluded that that person wants to gleefully and with no remorse murder all the gays in the world, and all the friends and families of gays in the world.
Yeah that's the point of the propaganda. "Use motivated reasoning to fill in the gaps we intentionally left you". Same strategy as an early life check.
It's not silent when they tell me I'm a JIDF shill trying to subert the sub (and apparently ConPro) with some crazy Hindi Pedo Nationalst alt brigade (and that I should kill myself).
I'm not even bitching about any of that, it's just that "silent" doesn't describe it right.
On the contrary, it's on the level of thinking that a bunch of people wearing the """Progress Flag""" and singing about how they are coming for my children are intentionally trying to bait a negative response, but are letting the mask slip enough to show that the LGBQ2SIA+ movement is built off of the abolition of gender, a removal of sexual and sex-based norms to unseat capitalism, and use sexually abused children and young adults as a revolutionary political class. Yes, I'm skipping steps, but it's all there. What it definitely isn't is a simple satire to prove that conservatives are fragile and don't want their kids to be taught how to be accepting of other people's differences.
I don't entirely agree, but you are certainly free to have that opinion, irrespective of mod actions.
No, I get your frustration, but that's not what I was saying. What I meant "dozens of us" who don't particularly care about "The JQ" or whether you are a jew or not downvoted your claim, without saying anything. We simply disagree. Your struggle with racist trolls is noted, but irrelevant. Yet you claim that "this comic is obviously identitarian, you know I'm right".
Dude, what I'm telling you is that lots of us don't think this comic is saying what you think it's saying. MAYBE btbw is a NatSoc shill (he does seem to be very myopic) but your moderation action was wrong. The comic is fine and makes a legitimate point that does not violate R16. Maybe the issue is your issue with NatSoc/antisemitic ideas. Let me tell you where I'm coming from. Personally, I don't think NatSoc is a real thing. The holocaust means nothing to me, and neither does "a zionist cabal runs the world". I'm not jewish and those edgy larpers mean nothing to me. You think it's dangerous or damaging to the alt-right and needs to be nipped in the bud before it hurts the community. Ok fine, but that SinFest comic in particular still doesn't violate R16 or say what you claimed it says. That's all I'm saying.
Ban btbw for something legit if you want. Or just ban him for no reason. The rules are nothing but suggestions anyway.
I think it's fine for us to argue that the comic doesn't mean it. I think it does. I also think that National Socialism is real in multiple forms, unfortunately. All that being said. I banned him for something else just recently anyway. This time he was carrying on against the Indians.
Fine. Would it be ok for me to repost the comic in light of this context? I want to comment what I think the point was, in contrast to what you believe it's saying. You could add any context you feel is necessary.
Sorry for the delay. Thinking about it, reposting the comic wouldn't work. But we could post the comic with edits pointing out the argument. That way it's reposting the argument.
Nah, that was a massive and unjustified spinout that made you look like a clown, sorry. You accused a specific user of wanting to gleefully murder you, your friends, and your family, with no basis. I must once again remind you that, no, you are not capable of mindreading.
That's bullshit, because you're once again doing mindreading. You're the one inferring that stuff. It's also a completely useless claim, because you're often warning or banning people, and then saying 'well, if he'd done this instead...' which is completely unfalsifiable hypothetical.
You said criticizing mods is fine and to be encouraged, but then you also accuse people who criticize you in slightly the wrong way of literally trying to start race wars and genocide.
So, "I wouldn't have banned him if..." is completely useless nonsense, since you claim to be the arbiter of a user's actions.
A) False, that's not the point of the comic in the slightest. No one took it that way, no one was talking about race wars or Jews except for you. Everyone was talking about free speech/protest. B) More mindreading. Stop it.
Criticizing me has nothing to do with that. Race War & Genocide is merely a repeating of the meta-narrative of someone who is ideologically captured.
He was critiquing you and your modding. You read everything else into it.
Buzzwords and mindreading are a sign of ideological capture. You're captured, you're off in your own fictional reality.
Let's go through what was said, in the example I'm thinking of, where you went on to accuse him of wanting to kill you. It's also worth pointing out you didn't get a single upvote, and 21 downvotes, while everyone who called out your absurd claims got all upvotes. And, no, I'm not saying that proves anyone right or wrong, just pointing out that no one thinks you were being sensible, and that does count for something. No one was seeing things your way, when you still think you're clearly correct. Not a single person sees your reality, at least in that instance.
This is largely simply a true statement.
An exaggeration as, to your credit, you don't throw down a lot of permas. But you do have a specific focus on going after people who talk bad about Jews, and that's where most of your mindreading occurs. I know you'll disagree, but you tend to reach farther to determine guilt in those instances. And you went on to ban a few people for completely innocent things that you took the very most wrong way.
You can agree or disagree with that guy, but accusing him of wanting to murder you and everyone you know is a serious fucking reach, which is why people rightfully objected so strongly to that nonsense.
Your response:
Firstly, he never asserted any of that, that's more mindreading from you. Now, on to the points.
You exaggerate and make it as absurd as possible to try to make people look insane. International? Absolutely. Thus the term globalist. "Inter-temporal?" Yes, it's been going on for quite some time. Racial? There are certainly elements, let's just put it that way. As to using "Jedeo-Capitalism" to break down civilization, firstly, that's your term. There are certainly examples of trying to use bastardized "capitalism" to break down civilization, some very explicit, others more subtle. Marx being a famous one, who just came out and said it. Klaus Schwab and the whole WEF are another example, although aren't quite as blatant in their stated goals.
That's just absurd, and everyone but you knows it.
Look, I don't want to fight with you, I really don't. You're of course welcome to hold whatever opinions you like, too. I just wish you'd moderate in a level and unbiased way (and, again, to your credit, you do on almost all topics), and cut it out with the mindreading. Moderate people for what they're actually saying and doing, not what you perceive their motivation behind something is. Thought crime is no way to run this ship.
Stormfags are like cockroaches, they hate being exposed. Moderation is like a light, the roavhes scurry for cover.
Muh Stormfags, I'm more then fine being called a "stormfag" it's you yids banning us constantly that's the issue lmao
Ah, so the pedos are from your department.
Thank you for your continued cooperation.
Yeah, that's why any forum with actual free speech inevitably sides with Hitler...
Says the dude who just got banhammered. ;)
It does feel brighter and sunnier around here now, you're correct. See you in ten days, I suppose.
You'll all be once again banned soon, and have accomplished nothing but once again proving to everyone how fucking retarded you are.
You call them stupid sluts because they won't sleep with you. :DDD
Stay mad, subhuman.
I'll just arm those children and watch them skin you alive, then. :D
It's funny how you have a bunch of alts
Yeah, and they should all be banned here since you're a raging street shitting faggot