The entire reason any of these guys ever gain prominence is because what they are saying resonates with men. Sometimes in ways those men don't even understand, but their subconscious understands that its speaking a truth they had been denying for a long time. Most of them aren't profound, and looking at that list most are pretty fucking milquetoast and weak at that, but they say very fundamental stuff that just jostles men towards them.
That's what makes these attempts to "discredit" or "cancel" them are so pathetic. You might kill the personality in charge, but those men are still downtrodden and searching for someone to lead them. And all the "accepted" methods have already failed to begin with for them.
So nothing of this sort will ever accomplish a thing other than waste a lot of time and money.
The one saving grace we have with this plot to try and stop the 'evil nasty red pillers' is feminists are seriously cringe when they talk about men's issues. I mean, it's even a case of even other leftists probably find them fucking cringe as hell because if they were at all interested in actually discussing men's issues properly they can't and they won't so they end up belittling men in the worse possible ways and then try to gaslight everyone on it. No one is fucking interested in that kind of conversation.
Feminists are completely neutered because in order to have a discussion about men's issues you have to accept that women are capable of doing evil things and their real views on both men and women completely spill over in their writings which is why I can easily imagine any of these organisations have a traction of a couple of hundred views. Male feminists are even more pathetic because they constantly have to ask permission from women to even talk about anything so naturally everything ends up at muh fee fees.
Feminists won't be a threat to the Manosphere unless they address actual men's issues instead of making up bullshit issues like "toxic masculinity" to try to divert attention to topics they deem nonthreatening. They'll never do that because they only bother with the latter to try to sabotage and coopt groups that talk about the real issues. Ever browse soy drenched shitholes like r/menslib and r/bropill? No self respecting man gets involved with those fags.
Yes unfortunately I do know about them and some of the names on there like the MankindProject I recognise which were roundly mocked on the MRA subreddit. Yeah, it's precisely that, not just toxic masculinity, but their extremely patronising claims of 'men need to express their emotions more' and other bollocks like that.
Yeah, I'm sure a guy who's been falsely accused by a woman, cheated on or got divorce raped in court is really going to get over his trust issues that developed due to that by fucking crying more. This is one of the big reasons I got black pilled more and more on any kind of reconciliation with feminists and normies who hold these views about men. The recent dating confessionals you see by young women floating around are another great example of this because the abuse against men is real and they always attack, insult and belittle men at every opportunity, fucking horrible people.
It's honestly astonishing as a man, to see women able to switch emotions like a computer program. They can go from smiling to sobbing to screaming in under 10 seconds without some kind of outside stimuli.
They're like psychotic robots that simultaneously feel and don't feel the emotions they display. It's really unfortunate for society as a whole that men aren't able to see through their act most of the time.
I mean if you believe in the Bible or are just a science guy, it's in a females nature to be able to manipulate the male. I read on this ages ago so I have to preface it with "just trust me bro" because I couldn't begin to tell you where to look and I'm too lazy rn. Reader beware I guess.
From a scientific pov, female humans developed manipulative tactics as a survival mechanism because they don't have the physical strength to care for themselves like males do. They also require protection when pregnant.
Supposedly the cries of a female elicit the same reaction in males, as the cries of children do. They adapted into mimicry to get what they want.
Females, also as a survival mechanism, adapted the behavior of trying to force themselves into the male sphere as much as possible to keep the male aware of them, because obviously outside of sexual reproduction, males don't need females to exist.
Psychologists just in the past year said (paraphrasing) “oopsies, as it turns out the female psychopath is 500% higher than previously thought and the rate between men and women is 1.2:1 not 5:1 as previously thought.” Funnily enough it’s because male and female psychopaths don’t manipulate in the same way! Who would have guessed that one right?
That's because a good portion of them are psychopaths and you've clicked onto the behaviour well. I am putting a qualifier here of, not all women in this instance because you have other women who absolutely swear off hanging around with women because they've either witnessed or been on the receiving end of this behaviour themselves. The tomgirl types and everything who hang out with men I'm sure will tell you of the scary shit they've witnessed so it's understandable as a result they'd only hang out with men if their pool of friends is limited.
Being a guy learning about this, what's really struck me is how women will pull this shit even when it comes to social relationships and it's something to be very wary of and pretty disturbing and they think this is normal behaviour. They will go from friend to 0 like fucking that and refuse to talk to people or worse they'll display true psychopath behaviour and stop hanging out with people simply because they think something better will come along and it's also a reflection of their dating habits.
I really, really don't like it, I'm trying to do better about my RL social life but this kind of thing is why I'm a total hermit and I see how people treat each other generally and it's only getting worse. Thankfully, these types of women at least in dating pools are slowly but surely getting blacklisted and pushed out of society but it's still a major problem.
these whores will try to have you arrested or killed if you start talking about actual solutions, they will allow nothing to stand between them and consequence free chad fucking. Which is exactly why they should be property to begin wtih
Rollo covered this as well. I can’t remember where, but he was talking about how women use “conversation ending” language when they can’t or won’t win a discussion, so they use words like “who hurt you?” To throw a wrench in the conversation. “Toxic masculinity” is the societal level of women saying “who hurt you”.
Europe spent 2 billion dollars just to besmirch Andrew Tate in their textbooks. It is no surprise to me that we are seeing yet another example on the war on men
I've never even heard of any of the bluepilled "positive" influencers, so good job DHS. Disgusting. There's probably ten more similar programs we don't know about.
I'm curious if those state-sponsored programs just amount to more requests for men to self-sacrifice in order to increase the material gain of the most recent woman to have sex with them.
Jordan Peterson and Jocko took off last decade because a large number of men listened to them intently and realized that they are, indeed, shit. Jocko showed them that dogged persistence can get a man to do anything through his war stories. Peterson demonstrated that the wisdom contained in mythology and religion are the encoded lessons of humanity written for posterity and should be studied.
The men that heard these lectures and were riled to action were men without fathers, or with weak fathers. They knew something was wrong internally and that something had to change, because they were not being told by those they encountered in their everyday life. Consequently, many of these men were also single if not virgins entirely. They just crossed the starting line of the race but the gun had already fired ages ago. It's no matter, they will work harder then the leaders of the race in order to try to catch up.
And it worked. A lot of these men did improve quite a bit, either physically, fiscally, or both. They also started catching the eye of women, a domain to which many of them were unfamiliar. They could not keep these women for long because they had no fathers. The advice given to them on how to treat women came FROM women -- mainly their mothers -- much akin to asking a fish how to catch a fish. It's trite, that advice, so I will not repeat it here except this; he must be a "protector" and a "provider".
Well wouldn't you know, these men suddenly became better protectors and providers. Now why was that only leading to infrequent dates with an occasional close or a month long fling that ends in a wisp of apathy, all exacerbated by the rise of dating apps leading to more and more passivity?
Fortunately for these men, The Red Pill had been active for ages by the time they got to looking for answers to these new questions. The idea of The Red Pill was organized around the premise of the book The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar: those protectors and providers, they are the prey animal. It's woman who is the predator, and she is raised by women to be stupid and weak while working only on her ability to attract those who are smart and able, a.k.a. men.
Forum goers who asked the question "why isn't this, whatever this may be, working" conceived of strategies and lifestyles either through self-experimentation or observation of those already good with women, those men who ascended beyond the class of sexual ruminant all the way to the top of the food chain.
With the self-improvement movement being as large as it was, it doesn't surprise me that the movement's eventual discovery of the old Red Pill posts would cause such a shock wave. Instead of a few angry men on SoSuave.net trading message board posts, its a large chunk of an entire generation realizing that the kernel of what they knew was rotten. The message being communicated is to no longer be the prey animal that weak stupid women hunt for keeps, so it also does not surprise me that the matriarchal state would consider it to be terrorism.
setup bluepilled controlled opposition that skinsuit redpillers then ban everyone that is talking about real issues outside of the feminist-set boundaries. they do this every time with every thing. it's their MO. they do it with politics, they do it with every social issue.
women shouldn't vote. if you aren't talking about that you aren't redpilled.
Voting doesn't matter, women shouldn't be allowed speech or free association. property of the father to find a husband for at which point she becomes his property.
I'm not going to engage with material from an account using a picture of a scantily clad woman on it, and I encourage all men to do the same. Regardless of the message, someone using a photo like that is using female sexuality to sell their ideas to men, which means they are trying to manipulate you. Men are not going to find any solutions if they keep letting their dicks do the talking.
The entire reason any of these guys ever gain prominence is because what they are saying resonates with men. Sometimes in ways those men don't even understand, but their subconscious understands that its speaking a truth they had been denying for a long time. Most of them aren't profound, and looking at that list most are pretty fucking milquetoast and weak at that, but they say very fundamental stuff that just jostles men towards them.
That's what makes these attempts to "discredit" or "cancel" them are so pathetic. You might kill the personality in charge, but those men are still downtrodden and searching for someone to lead them. And all the "accepted" methods have already failed to begin with for them.
So nothing of this sort will ever accomplish a thing other than waste a lot of time and money.
I wonder if this is why dailywire has been picking a fight with them for ages
Another day another showcasing of why “anti-discrimination” laws don’t work.
The one saving grace we have with this plot to try and stop the 'evil nasty red pillers' is feminists are seriously cringe when they talk about men's issues. I mean, it's even a case of even other leftists probably find them fucking cringe as hell because if they were at all interested in actually discussing men's issues properly they can't and they won't so they end up belittling men in the worse possible ways and then try to gaslight everyone on it. No one is fucking interested in that kind of conversation.
Feminists are completely neutered because in order to have a discussion about men's issues you have to accept that women are capable of doing evil things and their real views on both men and women completely spill over in their writings which is why I can easily imagine any of these organisations have a traction of a couple of hundred views. Male feminists are even more pathetic because they constantly have to ask permission from women to even talk about anything so naturally everything ends up at muh fee fees.
Feminists won't be a threat to the Manosphere unless they address actual men's issues instead of making up bullshit issues like "toxic masculinity" to try to divert attention to topics they deem nonthreatening. They'll never do that because they only bother with the latter to try to sabotage and coopt groups that talk about the real issues. Ever browse soy drenched shitholes like r/menslib and r/bropill? No self respecting man gets involved with those fags.
Yes unfortunately I do know about them and some of the names on there like the MankindProject I recognise which were roundly mocked on the MRA subreddit. Yeah, it's precisely that, not just toxic masculinity, but their extremely patronising claims of 'men need to express their emotions more' and other bollocks like that.
Yeah, I'm sure a guy who's been falsely accused by a woman, cheated on or got divorce raped in court is really going to get over his trust issues that developed due to that by fucking crying more. This is one of the big reasons I got black pilled more and more on any kind of reconciliation with feminists and normies who hold these views about men. The recent dating confessionals you see by young women floating around are another great example of this because the abuse against men is real and they always attack, insult and belittle men at every opportunity, fucking horrible people.
Trust not a woman when she weeps, for it is her nature to weep when she wants her will.
2400 years later and nothings changed.
It's honestly astonishing as a man, to see women able to switch emotions like a computer program. They can go from smiling to sobbing to screaming in under 10 seconds without some kind of outside stimuli.
They're like psychotic robots that simultaneously feel and don't feel the emotions they display. It's really unfortunate for society as a whole that men aren't able to see through their act most of the time.
I mean if you believe in the Bible or are just a science guy, it's in a females nature to be able to manipulate the male. I read on this ages ago so I have to preface it with "just trust me bro" because I couldn't begin to tell you where to look and I'm too lazy rn. Reader beware I guess.
From a scientific pov, female humans developed manipulative tactics as a survival mechanism because they don't have the physical strength to care for themselves like males do. They also require protection when pregnant.
Supposedly the cries of a female elicit the same reaction in males, as the cries of children do. They adapted into mimicry to get what they want.
Females, also as a survival mechanism, adapted the behavior of trying to force themselves into the male sphere as much as possible to keep the male aware of them, because obviously outside of sexual reproduction, males don't need females to exist.
Psychologists just in the past year said (paraphrasing) “oopsies, as it turns out the female psychopath is 500% higher than previously thought and the rate between men and women is 1.2:1 not 5:1 as previously thought.” Funnily enough it’s because male and female psychopaths don’t manipulate in the same way! Who would have guessed that one right?
That's because a good portion of them are psychopaths and you've clicked onto the behaviour well. I am putting a qualifier here of, not all women in this instance because you have other women who absolutely swear off hanging around with women because they've either witnessed or been on the receiving end of this behaviour themselves. The tomgirl types and everything who hang out with men I'm sure will tell you of the scary shit they've witnessed so it's understandable as a result they'd only hang out with men if their pool of friends is limited.
Being a guy learning about this, what's really struck me is how women will pull this shit even when it comes to social relationships and it's something to be very wary of and pretty disturbing and they think this is normal behaviour. They will go from friend to 0 like fucking that and refuse to talk to people or worse they'll display true psychopath behaviour and stop hanging out with people simply because they think something better will come along and it's also a reflection of their dating habits.
I really, really don't like it, I'm trying to do better about my RL social life but this kind of thing is why I'm a total hermit and I see how people treat each other generally and it's only getting worse. Thankfully, these types of women at least in dating pools are slowly but surely getting blacklisted and pushed out of society but it's still a major problem.
these whores will try to have you arrested or killed if you start talking about actual solutions, they will allow nothing to stand between them and consequence free chad fucking. Which is exactly why they should be property to begin wtih
Rollo covered this as well. I can’t remember where, but he was talking about how women use “conversation ending” language when they can’t or won’t win a discussion, so they use words like “who hurt you?” To throw a wrench in the conversation. “Toxic masculinity” is the societal level of women saying “who hurt you”.
This is why men should be the ability to slap the shit out of these worthless sluts.
Europe spent 2 billion dollars just to besmirch Andrew Tate in their textbooks. It is no surprise to me that we are seeing yet another example on the war on men
The catholic church spent billions besmirching atheism in their textbooks.
As they should have.
I've never even heard of any of the bluepilled "positive" influencers, so good job DHS. Disgusting. There's probably ten more similar programs we don't know about.
It's the new D.A.R.E. lol.
How soon before mother-in-law jokes become hate speech?
The authorities do seem very keen to clamp down on the concept of male self-determination aren't they?
For the same reason they destroyed all male spaces, they can control women but they can only destroy men.
I'm curious if those state-sponsored programs just amount to more requests for men to self-sacrifice in order to increase the material gain of the most recent woman to have sex with them.
Jordan Peterson and Jocko took off last decade because a large number of men listened to them intently and realized that they are, indeed, shit. Jocko showed them that dogged persistence can get a man to do anything through his war stories. Peterson demonstrated that the wisdom contained in mythology and religion are the encoded lessons of humanity written for posterity and should be studied.
The men that heard these lectures and were riled to action were men without fathers, or with weak fathers. They knew something was wrong internally and that something had to change, because they were not being told by those they encountered in their everyday life. Consequently, many of these men were also single if not virgins entirely. They just crossed the starting line of the race but the gun had already fired ages ago. It's no matter, they will work harder then the leaders of the race in order to try to catch up.
And it worked. A lot of these men did improve quite a bit, either physically, fiscally, or both. They also started catching the eye of women, a domain to which many of them were unfamiliar. They could not keep these women for long because they had no fathers. The advice given to them on how to treat women came FROM women -- mainly their mothers -- much akin to asking a fish how to catch a fish. It's trite, that advice, so I will not repeat it here except this; he must be a "protector" and a "provider".
Well wouldn't you know, these men suddenly became better protectors and providers. Now why was that only leading to infrequent dates with an occasional close or a month long fling that ends in a wisp of apathy, all exacerbated by the rise of dating apps leading to more and more passivity?
Fortunately for these men, The Red Pill had been active for ages by the time they got to looking for answers to these new questions. The idea of The Red Pill was organized around the premise of the book The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar: those protectors and providers, they are the prey animal. It's woman who is the predator, and she is raised by women to be stupid and weak while working only on her ability to attract those who are smart and able, a.k.a. men.
Forum goers who asked the question "why isn't this, whatever this may be, working" conceived of strategies and lifestyles either through self-experimentation or observation of those already good with women, those men who ascended beyond the class of sexual ruminant all the way to the top of the food chain.
With the self-improvement movement being as large as it was, it doesn't surprise me that the movement's eventual discovery of the old Red Pill posts would cause such a shock wave. Instead of a few angry men on SoSuave.net trading message board posts, its a large chunk of an entire generation realizing that the kernel of what they knew was rotten. The message being communicated is to no longer be the prey animal that weak stupid women hunt for keeps, so it also does not surprise me that the matriarchal state would consider it to be terrorism.
Nothing men can do, women have too much freedom and protection, we're legally forbidden from having stable families.
Youtube seemed to be promoting the heck out of them for a while until I started hitting "don't recommend channel".
I don't dispute the message. It's that all of them are using cartoon furry avatars to narrate their screed in lispy voices.
Creeps me out.
setup bluepilled controlled opposition that skinsuit redpillers then ban everyone that is talking about real issues outside of the feminist-set boundaries. they do this every time with every thing. it's their MO. they do it with politics, they do it with every social issue.
women shouldn't vote. if you aren't talking about that you aren't redpilled.
Voting doesn't matter, women shouldn't be allowed speech or free association. property of the father to find a husband for at which point she becomes his property.
I'm not going to engage with material from an account using a picture of a scantily clad woman on it, and I encourage all men to do the same. Regardless of the message, someone using a photo like that is using female sexuality to sell their ideas to men, which means they are trying to manipulate you. Men are not going to find any solutions if they keep letting their dicks do the talking.