Prefix: This has NOTHING to do with the US elections or Trump directly, this is about the principle in general.
Have one of my friends in London (pray for them) recently chatting to me over some games, talking about how they recently got their voting ballots mailed to them. It's slim pickings to say the least but for one of the positions they only had the option of Conservative, Labour, Lib Dem, Greens snd Reform.
They're looking into the Reform candidate as they MASSIVELY went down in their opinion due to recent capitulations so they told me they'd spoil their ballot like last time when they only had 4 options and Reform wasn't even a choice than endorse ANY of these parties.
I personally think this is the right choice. Everyone SHOULD vote but if none of the candidates match up to your morality or standards, you should be given the right to put none of the above or straight up spoil your ballot in refusal to endorse. The UK ballots apparently don't have a 'none of the above' option even though it is perfectly legal to spoil your ballot and is in fact counted as a spoiled ballot on election day.
I'm just thinking back on how humiliated Haley was when she lost a primary to 'none of the above' and relating it to the poor voter turnout numbers of the UK and other Western countries. Imagine if all those didn't vote turned into refuse to endorse votes, might be enough to show how much the emperor is without clothes.
In 2016 and 2020 I wrote in Beelzebub for President, because the both Hillary and Biden were going to take Washington State anyway, whether I voted for Trump or not. That is a spoiler vote, just like your friend in Britain.
More importantly, what I did by voting is deny Democrats the ability to use my ballot to affect down race contests at the state and local level, and if one were looking for a reason to vote, if you are black pilled about voting, this is as good of a reason as any to cast a ballot.
I have noticed them using people's unwillingness to vote as a sort of 'silent acceptance' of their rule, it is a big reason you should vote even to just spoil it so they can't use it.
my dumb question is... what happens when a spoiler vote manages to have enough duplicates to win?
There's almost always way too many local measures and positions on the ballot that I do want to vote for that I'd never spoil my ballot. These roles served as a pretty effective buffer between me and the crazies during the covid clownery for example. DC politicians are a tiny part of the ballot, I could write-in or choose not to vote for any of those. I don't believe it's mandatory to pick one to vote for.
I won't spoil it, I just ripped the one that was sent up.
The choice is between commies in red, commies in blue, eco commies in yellow or cucks that bend over to hope not hate.
LOL that's a pretty accurate summary of the UK's situation which is why I occasionally post videos illustrating just how bad things are here for the Americans especially who don't get it.
What makes you think you can humiliate these people when just yesterday we had a thread about a left wing politician eating human excrement? If you want a protest vote, vote for Reform until you find someone better.
Reform are actual controlled opposition and a failed conservative to career politician pipeline, so no.
Vote for reform.
Why? Reform are controlled by HopeNotHate, Tice the Mice bent over backwards to please them.
Because you should vote as far right as you can. Reform isn't good enough, but they're still better than letting everyone else pick in your stead.
But re, sorry Conform UK isn't anywhere near the right, let alone far right.
Micey Ticey removes his own candidates for repeating his own party's policy because HopeNotHate cried.
He's actively working with HNH to vet further candidates, he's praising and groveling to HNH.
If at this point you still vote for conform UK then you're either mind numbingly stupid or a secret (not so any more though) commie.
I have always spoiled my vote when it comes to crass whole scale political elections.
I don't think voting should be mandatory, like it is in Australia, but I think it is important and I think letting those putting themselves forward through the borked system know that I consider them a fool is the most important thing I can do.
Let the will of the people decide their fate and begone with this illusion of choice.
I should ask anyone who is in a mandatory voting area, do they provide a 'none of the above' option on the voting ballot as I have noticed them in places trying to force you to choose than let you know you can simply refuse.
Seems to be one of those things like Jury nullification that they DON'T want you knowing about.
People have accused me of being apathetic when it comes to a lot of issues but if you ever want to see me riled up and swearing vengeance against my own government introduce mandatory voting and conscription and see how fast I'd cause the government to fall lol. I would actually cause total chaos and with my logistics autism and knowledge along with tech ability I could definitely do it.
You have all this power, your country is fucked, but THAT is what would make you take action?
Because the normies would turn on me over anything else and treat me as a terrorist, it's a simple calculation, need more chaos and infighting and for things to get really bad unfortunately before people think "Yeah, maybe we should boot these politicians out finally".
I also have to weigh up frankly whether this country is even worth saving given the types of shit heads I've encountered in it, the country is nicknamed TERF island after all but quite a few of the 'men' are equally insufferable. There aren't that many Tommy Robinson types out there as the media like to pretend. I guess I am pretty apathetic, but it's pretty much because of what I've seen and how I've been treated in my childhood mainly. Not a boo hoo poor me situation by any means, but of course I never forgot it.
I'd sooner help people in America or New Zealand, Hungary than my own countrymen and trust me when Labour gets elected you're going to understand why. The lotus eaters are probably going to be doing good work documenting it.
Well good luck and god bless my man
This is akin to lumping jaywalking and murder into the category of "crime".
Okay so this might interest you guys, I don't know if the laws changed recently but here in the UK we have a weirdly actual democratic thing you can do where if you spoil a ballot and a candidate's name is written on it then they have to have it handed to them, I think that's how it works. I wish though 'none of the above' was a real registered option in the electorate because then the candidates wouldn't be able to so easily avoid non-voters and pretend they don't exist which is a major problem with 'representative' democracy.
Can confirm you're right about the spoiled ballots by the way, but in the same way they'll never let legal referendums become a thing like with Switzerland they're never going to let the public officially register their displeasure with all options available. That would satisfy me a lot, because then I could have it on record where I could go "No, you're all shit" and I bet even a lot of the normies would be happy to do that too.
I get the distinct feeling that if the UK had that option, it would be 90% voting 'you're all useless fucks, gives us our tax money back!' EVERY election lol
Yes and they'd hate it which would make it hilarious, this is why they make sure to block all options like that. They were pressured due to public pressure to have the EU referendum because it was such a major issue. If there were ever a referendum on migration the politicians would lose their minds.
Looks at Switzerland's referendum with great interest..
That is part of the reason why you have groups like the "Monster Raving Loony Party" there's no way that they'll get in but its an active refusal to vote for any of the big parties.
I'm still going to vote as I don't fully trust the system as I imagine its harder to change a vote than it is to just fill a blank one in.
That's part of the reason to spoil if the only difference in candidates offered is how fast they anally screw you.
If you voted but have ensured it's spoiled in a way they can't use your vote it at least stops them 'voting on your behalf'