Exactly. He isn't trying to convince Pearl, he is trying to convince himself. Hopefully he will be as willing to talk after this blows up in his face. It will be a good laugh.
Christianity is heavily feminized, and has been for atleast a century. Likely two or more.
No, seriously. Historically, women have been seen as the spiritual center of the family, while the husband deals with earthly matters. So scripture and teachings on sunday are focused and interpreted to appeal to... women! Women also influence the purse strings of the family, encouraging more spending toward the church. Win win.
Christianity as taught is cucked because it's operating from a feminine perspective and prerogative. Women are weak, must be protected, and they refuse to even acknowledge women's power and privilege in modern society.
If you want a very radical contrast, look at how appealing Joshua Graham in Fallout New Vegas is to everyone, despite(more likely, because of) how religious he is. His interpretation is very powerful, direct, masculine interpretation of scripture, forcing you to action and urging you to fight evil. He is a godly man, unashamed in his worship, yet will proactively respond with lethal force if necessary without hesitation.
Quite the difference from modern 'let someone else abuse you and become their bitch boy if they act against you'.
I don't know about videos, but the bible is actually a quite interesting read. Yeah, there's some oddities, but loads and loads of it require really no explanation. Women are put under the rule of men in the first few pages. It's very consistent throughout on the roles of women, yet feminist theologists want to try to offer "context" or whatever to change things that are written clearly and directly in any legitimate translation.
Any good videos to jump start an interest in exploring what Christianity used to look like in that context?
You won't get this from videos. One way is to explore the writing of historical Christian intellectuals, such as Saint Augustine or Saint Thomas Aquinas. It can be quite heavy but that is part of the point - I would say engaging with Christianity using reason and our rational ability is a quintessentially masculine way of doing so. In contrast, the feminine takes complex concepts and tends to simplify these to caricatures often based on on emotional reasoning, such as "love of neighbor and love of enemy" as meaning "being nice to everyone so you don't upset them", which is certainly not what Christ meant.
I don't know specifics but the best place to start is probably going to be about the Guelphs vs. the Ghibellines.
It was a conflict between patriarchal monarchs and gynocratic priests, essentially. The priests won which set the stage for the Catholic Church being able to significantly increase its power and this is when things started becoming incredibly gynocratic comparted to the more patriarchal imperium that was the legacy of antiquity.
Almost all the best Christians were before this period in time where the Catholic Church was able to consolidate its power to that of being above the monarchs and it's no surprise the great schism happened not soon after this stage was set because this power of the church corrupted society immensely as things started becoming more gynocratic and decadent.
Christianity has always been gynocratic even at the very beginning. The whole reason Christianity took off over traditional Roman values/beliefs is because traditional Roman values/beliefs has a male-centric slant since they were very action oriented based. You only gain glory by doing something glorious and women weren't able to compete with men in being able to do anything glorious so women disliked this religion. Christianity on the other hand said you just had to be a good person and you got everything you wanted in life so women loved this because it allowed them an equal opportunity for the same sort of grand salvation as men by basically doing nothing. Not to mention, Christianity encouraged monogamy and devotion to women compared to more traditional antiquity beliefs that saw women as a sort of possession akin to a prize for a man to do as he please with. Women felt compared to how things were previously, that Christianity gave them more control over the men in their lives.
Christianity is heavily feminized, and has been for atleast a century. Likely two or more.
And the solution to this, from my point of view, is for men to rightfully reassert their positions within Christianity as the leaders. The start is for men to start going to church again and playing an active role. Men need to stop conceding ground to women and recapture what they have lost.
No, seriously. Historically, women have been seen as the spiritual center of the family, while the husband deals with earthly matters. So scripture and teachings on sunday are focused and interpreted to appeal to... women! Women also influence the purse strings of the family, encouraging more spending toward the church. Win win.
I think this may be true in recent times - probably due to the rise of feminism in the West and is knock-on effects - but in my view this is certainly not what God intended. Christianity is meant to be patriarchal because that is the natural order of things. It is men's role to lead. This could not be any more explicit than Ephesians 5:24:
As the church is subject to Christ, so let wives also be subject in everything to their husbands.
As Christians, men are meant to lead spiritually and they need to do so again. They can do so by getting themselves in order - turning away from sin and being faithful to the Gospel - and being role models and eventually leaders as they continue to develop spiritually and in their relationship with God in their local Christian communities. And spreading the Good News to other men to do the same.
And the solution to this, from my point of view, is for men to rightfully reassert their positions within Christianity as the leaders.
Part of the issue is male leadership in the church. IE, the priesthood.
No, not in the way you're thinking. See, I had a weird upbringing, so I'm familiar with what men have to go through to become an actual priest. And one of the things involved is a college education.
Priests aren't stupid. I think most of them are very, very smart. Educated, at the very least. Smart enough to realize what could be the most threatening factor to civilization as it stands - single, violent young men at odds and bereft from the world as a whole.
Hence the overall push - to start young, and keep pushing the modern interpretation of scripture, shorn of historical context, neutered of violence and pushed overall to be docile.
Do I have proof? No. This is pure theory, pure conjecture. And likely just one factor among many. But I don't think I'm wrong. We'll see.
No doubt there are many contributing components. I don't disagree with your comment, but I would put it another way - the priesthood reflects the population they are from, or in other words, we get the priests we deserve.
I still think the most important factor, at least the one the individual men can actually make a dent into, is that men as a whole are too enslaved by sin to lead as Christians. You just need to look at this forum to see multitudes of men defending their own enslavement by pornography, masturbation and fornication (sexual sins are probably to most easy to fall into, especially for men, which is why chastity is a universal virtue). At a first step, individual men need to choose not to sin for their own sake, i.e. their own personal salvation, and once they start doing so they can step into the role God intends - to lead their societies according to His law.
Well I imagine that if you’re walking the walk and have saved yourself for marriage it’s possible that you’re the most naive motherfucker in the world when it comes to the nature of women and the godless society they all percolate in.
I disagree. young men deserve better. we are raising them in a criminally hostile and exploitive environment. you can't just turn your back on them when they do what they were trained to do and climb into the feminist woodchipper.
This is where a lot of bitterness wells up from. Countless men taught by their society to walk a path, promised that it would lead to happiness and fulfillment only to find their hearts and their lives laying in ruins at the end of the path. Everyone who should have been guiding them to success was instead guiding them towards self destruction. And at the end of it all, these poor fools get blamed for doing as they were taught, as if society bears no responsibility for their demise.
It's enough to make a man want to see the world burn.
Idk man, even the most dense guys on the planet would feel a little disgusted if they knew thousands of people watched your wife get her pussy blown out in 4k HD for $10
Conservatives still put a lot of pressure on men to marry and behave like its the 1950s... even as everyone and everything else shows it clearly isn't. The normie right is just as unrealistic as the left at this point, just unrealistic about different things.
Conservatives incorrectly believe the core of America is still good, and that if men behave like it’s the 1950’s then we will go back to the 50’s. America is rotten to the core. We need a full right wing revolution.
Conservatism is by definition a rearguard action. It’s only a wining move if you have already won and want to maintain your victory.
I don't understand why there's no political movement to eliminate no fault divorce. It's one major source of all these problems and both trads and mgtows could come together on the issue.
Actually I do understand. Women. Totally not a privileged class.
it's not just conservatives. all women. teachers, mothers, even fathers. all saying the same thing all the time without relenting. even the most stable and reasonable person will start to question the reality they are seeing around them, or simply refuse to look.
Do not judge lest ye be judged? Frankly, I would like to be judged if I were so desperate to be in a relationship that I went as far as to endorse the very same culture of whoredom and desolation which the bible explicitly and repeatedly condemns as a bad outcome - I think that sounds like a pretty good metric to be judged by generally speaking. Why reward it? Why enable it? It's nothing short of cuckoldry on a spiritual level to lose the discernment that you are also "called upon as a Christian" to have.
If they have an onlyfans, no dice. That's the minimum. I hate that the bar has to be set that low but here we are. The stigma should at the very least discourage prostitution.
It's definitely men trying to navigate the system. Absolutely no man wants to be with a whore if holding all else constant he was just choosing between a whore and a non-whore.
The big problem though comes back to physical appearance and sexuality. In modernity, if a woman is somewhat sexually appealing and good looking, it's almost all but a guarantee she's a whore. If she's sexy, hot and not a whore she's pretty much a 10/10 and out of most men's league.
So the choice for a lot of men is ugly and not sexy regular woman or hot and sexy reformed slut/whore. A lot of guys would actually rather roll the dice with the reformed slut/whore because even if she divorce rapes you because you can't turn a whore into a housewife, at least he'll have good sex (the hope anyway) for the time he spends with her. To a lot of men the average not so attractive, not so sexy women who aren't whores and are available are entirely unappealing.
Nah it's not curious if you realize a lot of right wing influencers are in incestuous agency relationships. Very likely theres a pr campaign and you just need to get 2 of the bigcon companies on board. Either tenet or dwire.
What really made it click for me was that it was the same people defending Hillary after it was revealed she hired a pr firm to influence right wing online discussions. Same women defending the of girl
If the woman is truly intent on leading a Christian life, that's great. There are some red flags though, and I will leave it at that with no judgement beyond what facts I know.
The man going on about judgement though? Attempting to warn a Christian brother that he is about to head down a dangerous road towards sin is a duty is it not judgement.
The entire context is within the bounds of Christianity, and I'd be beyond shocked if you can convince me from a Christian aspect how taking what he can get, murdering his wife, and leaving his children to others while rotting in prison would ever be endorsed in Christianity.
What Christianity does offer as an option: "It is good for a man to not touch a woman." So you're asking in a Christian context whether or do something explicitly endorsed or willfully committing multiple sins, well that's an easy conclusion.
Genuinely, I thought this would actually be funny or disturbing if it was one of the older guys but I looked this guy up and he's some random faggot I've never seen before or heard of. He dresses and looks like a wannabe hoodrat douchebag, and the only site he has any followers on is tiktok.
How the fuck do you even read these threads without making an account anymore? Nitter is dead.
Any retard who tries to make a ho into a housewife despite all advice from anyone with a scrap of wisdom in his family, will get the ending he deserves. What a retard.
The male genetic line is not the only part that contributes, fool. Having children with vile women propagates their genes as well.
He's a grifting clown, too. 23 year old chairforce goon whose first result when I looked him up was a tiktok talking about trying to get VA disability.
“…Which is messed up… but hey I’m not judging.” That right there is a lie and proof that it’s a lie, all in one sentence.
Edit: I should add that a proper Christian understands that there is only one judge who matters. Knee-jerk clap-backs like this are a sign of spiritual immaturity.
His wife's labia and butthole will be shared across the world and it will be the gift bought up to his children through her at school. The shame and stench can't be washed off her.
If you have to write this much of a LONG post to justify marrying the girl, you have your own doubts you're not honest about.
I could marry a crazy former asylum patient and have less inner doubts than this guy.
Exactly. He isn't trying to convince Pearl, he is trying to convince himself. Hopefully he will be as willing to talk after this blows up in his face. It will be a good laugh.
This is an extremely astute and correct observation.
What is it with so many tradcucks being so eager to put the cuck in tradcuck as of late?
They're too eager to show how forgiving they are
I wonder if he'll be this forgiving when the OnlyThot divorce rapes him.
Yes. You can't even say you chose the wrong woman or the conservative bitches fall on you for blaming your wife
Christianity is heavily feminized, and has been for atleast a century. Likely two or more.
No, seriously. Historically, women have been seen as the spiritual center of the family, while the husband deals with earthly matters. So scripture and teachings on sunday are focused and interpreted to appeal to... women! Women also influence the purse strings of the family, encouraging more spending toward the church. Win win.
Christianity as taught is cucked because it's operating from a feminine perspective and prerogative. Women are weak, must be protected, and they refuse to even acknowledge women's power and privilege in modern society.
If you want a very radical contrast, look at how appealing Joshua Graham in Fallout New Vegas is to everyone, despite(more likely, because of) how religious he is. His interpretation is very powerful, direct, masculine interpretation of scripture, forcing you to action and urging you to fight evil. He is a godly man, unashamed in his worship, yet will proactively respond with lethal force if necessary without hesitation.
Quite the difference from modern 'let someone else abuse you and become their bitch boy if they act against you'.
I don't know about videos, but the bible is actually a quite interesting read. Yeah, there's some oddities, but loads and loads of it require really no explanation. Women are put under the rule of men in the first few pages. It's very consistent throughout on the roles of women, yet feminist theologists want to try to offer "context" or whatever to change things that are written clearly and directly in any legitimate translation.
You won't get this from videos. One way is to explore the writing of historical Christian intellectuals, such as Saint Augustine or Saint Thomas Aquinas. It can be quite heavy but that is part of the point - I would say engaging with Christianity using reason and our rational ability is a quintessentially masculine way of doing so. In contrast, the feminine takes complex concepts and tends to simplify these to caricatures often based on on emotional reasoning, such as "love of neighbor and love of enemy" as meaning "being nice to everyone so you don't upset them", which is certainly not what Christ meant.
No videos, sorry. I'm going off of a deranged combination of 400-level history courses and the occasional weird article here and there.
I don't know specifics but the best place to start is probably going to be about the Guelphs vs. the Ghibellines.
It was a conflict between patriarchal monarchs and gynocratic priests, essentially. The priests won which set the stage for the Catholic Church being able to significantly increase its power and this is when things started becoming incredibly gynocratic comparted to the more patriarchal imperium that was the legacy of antiquity.
Almost all the best Christians were before this period in time where the Catholic Church was able to consolidate its power to that of being above the monarchs and it's no surprise the great schism happened not soon after this stage was set because this power of the church corrupted society immensely as things started becoming more gynocratic and decadent.
Christianity has always been gynocratic even at the very beginning. The whole reason Christianity took off over traditional Roman values/beliefs is because traditional Roman values/beliefs has a male-centric slant since they were very action oriented based. You only gain glory by doing something glorious and women weren't able to compete with men in being able to do anything glorious so women disliked this religion. Christianity on the other hand said you just had to be a good person and you got everything you wanted in life so women loved this because it allowed them an equal opportunity for the same sort of grand salvation as men by basically doing nothing. Not to mention, Christianity encouraged monogamy and devotion to women compared to more traditional antiquity beliefs that saw women as a sort of possession akin to a prize for a man to do as he please with. Women felt compared to how things were previously, that Christianity gave them more control over the men in their lives.
Read the Bible yourself to start
And the solution to this, from my point of view, is for men to rightfully reassert their positions within Christianity as the leaders. The start is for men to start going to church again and playing an active role. Men need to stop conceding ground to women and recapture what they have lost.
I think this may be true in recent times - probably due to the rise of feminism in the West and is knock-on effects - but in my view this is certainly not what God intended. Christianity is meant to be patriarchal because that is the natural order of things. It is men's role to lead. This could not be any more explicit than Ephesians 5:24:
As Christians, men are meant to lead spiritually and they need to do so again. They can do so by getting themselves in order - turning away from sin and being faithful to the Gospel - and being role models and eventually leaders as they continue to develop spiritually and in their relationship with God in their local Christian communities. And spreading the Good News to other men to do the same.
Part of the issue is male leadership in the church. IE, the priesthood.
No, not in the way you're thinking. See, I had a weird upbringing, so I'm familiar with what men have to go through to become an actual priest. And one of the things involved is a college education.
Priests aren't stupid. I think most of them are very, very smart. Educated, at the very least. Smart enough to realize what could be the most threatening factor to civilization as it stands - single, violent young men at odds and bereft from the world as a whole.
Hence the overall push - to start young, and keep pushing the modern interpretation of scripture, shorn of historical context, neutered of violence and pushed overall to be docile.
Do I have proof? No. This is pure theory, pure conjecture. And likely just one factor among many. But I don't think I'm wrong. We'll see.
No doubt there are many contributing components. I don't disagree with your comment, but I would put it another way - the priesthood reflects the population they are from, or in other words, we get the priests we deserve.
I still think the most important factor, at least the one the individual men can actually make a dent into, is that men as a whole are too enslaved by sin to lead as Christians. You just need to look at this forum to see multitudes of men defending their own enslavement by pornography, masturbation and fornication (sexual sins are probably to most easy to fall into, especially for men, which is why chastity is a universal virtue). At a first step, individual men need to choose not to sin for their own sake, i.e. their own personal salvation, and once they start doing so they can step into the role God intends - to lead their societies according to His law.
Its why in movies there is the crazy religious white lady that gets people killed heheh.
Well I imagine that if you’re walking the walk and have saved yourself for marriage it’s possible that you’re the most naive motherfucker in the world when it comes to the nature of women and the godless society they all percolate in.
I mean even if you are, family or friends should step in to say hey maybe this isn't a good idea.
Based on the dissertation he wrote defending his retarded decision it's possible they tried and he told them to fuck off.
Then he gets what he deserves
No man deserves what's coming to that poor, gullible fool.
I disagree. young men deserve better. we are raising them in a criminally hostile and exploitive environment. you can't just turn your back on them when they do what they were trained to do and climb into the feminist woodchipper.
This is where a lot of bitterness wells up from. Countless men taught by their society to walk a path, promised that it would lead to happiness and fulfillment only to find their hearts and their lives laying in ruins at the end of the path. Everyone who should have been guiding them to success was instead guiding them towards self destruction. And at the end of it all, these poor fools get blamed for doing as they were taught, as if society bears no responsibility for their demise.
It's enough to make a man want to see the world burn.
Idk man, even the most dense guys on the planet would feel a little disgusted if they knew thousands of people watched your wife get her pussy blown out in 4k HD for $10
Conservatives still put a lot of pressure on men to marry and behave like its the 1950s... even as everyone and everything else shows it clearly isn't. The normie right is just as unrealistic as the left at this point, just unrealistic about different things.
Conservatives incorrectly believe the core of America is still good, and that if men behave like it’s the 1950’s then we will go back to the 50’s. America is rotten to the core. We need a full right wing revolution.
Conservatism is by definition a rearguard action. It’s only a wining move if you have already won and want to maintain your victory.
I don't understand why there's no political movement to eliminate no fault divorce. It's one major source of all these problems and both trads and mgtows could come together on the issue.
Actually I do understand. Women. Totally not a privileged class.
The family court grift is the real third rail of American politics.
"Why do you hate women?"
It's all so tiresome.
it's not just conservatives. all women. teachers, mothers, even fathers. all saying the same thing all the time without relenting. even the most stable and reasonable person will start to question the reality they are seeing around them, or simply refuse to look.
Loneliness.
Well this guy is about to be lonelier than he's ever been in his life, as anyone who's ever been in a betabux relationshit can attest.
Do not judge lest ye be judged? Frankly, I would like to be judged if I were so desperate to be in a relationship that I went as far as to endorse the very same culture of whoredom and desolation which the bible explicitly and repeatedly condemns as a bad outcome - I think that sounds like a pretty good metric to be judged by generally speaking. Why reward it? Why enable it? It's nothing short of cuckoldry on a spiritual level to lose the discernment that you are also "called upon as a Christian" to have.
Have some dignity.
The corollary to "Do not be judged" is "Be as wise as serpents, and as innocent as doves."
Jesus specifically commanded his disciples not to be naive.
It's a strange mirror of leftists who view judging a cardinal sin yet proceed to judge anyone and everyone by their degenerate standards.
I don't know about that, it sounds pretty much like rewarding it. At the very least, don't have an onlyfans.
Only retards think this. Your posts in this thread out you as an animal, not a man.
If they have an onlyfans, no dice. That's the minimum. I hate that the bar has to be set that low but here we are. The stigma should at the very least discourage prostitution.
Just buy an actual whore then.
It's definitely men trying to navigate the system. Absolutely no man wants to be with a whore if holding all else constant he was just choosing between a whore and a non-whore.
The big problem though comes back to physical appearance and sexuality. In modernity, if a woman is somewhat sexually appealing and good looking, it's almost all but a guarantee she's a whore. If she's sexy, hot and not a whore she's pretty much a 10/10 and out of most men's league.
So the choice for a lot of men is ugly and not sexy regular woman or hot and sexy reformed slut/whore. A lot of guys would actually rather roll the dice with the reformed slut/whore because even if she divorce rapes you because you can't turn a whore into a housewife, at least he'll have good sex (the hope anyway) for the time he spends with her. To a lot of men the average not so attractive, not so sexy women who aren't whores and are available are entirely unappealing.
Did she repent and is no longer attention whoring on social media?
If so fine. If she is still attention whoring then she just traded audiences and the guy is trying to justify how he gave in to his lust.
She just went on a pr tour and appeared on the daily wire michael Knowles show
Shes also pivoting to be a christian influence on tiktok
So still a whore then
not how women work, my friend. you are extremely naive in the nature of women.
The lotus eaters just did a decent segment on her; but to add a couple of days after that interview she announced a new line of merch.
It's all a grift
Nah it's not curious if you realize a lot of right wing influencers are in incestuous agency relationships. Very likely theres a pr campaign and you just need to get 2 of the bigcon companies on board. Either tenet or dwire.
What really made it click for me was that it was the same people defending Hillary after it was revealed she hired a pr firm to influence right wing online discussions. Same women defending the of girl
Woman in-group bias and Jewish hatred of Christianity respectively. Simple enough to understand.
Of course it is.
If the woman is truly intent on leading a Christian life, that's great. There are some red flags though, and I will leave it at that with no judgement beyond what facts I know.
The man going on about judgement though? Attempting to warn a Christian brother that he is about to head down a dangerous road towards sin is a duty is it not judgement.
The entire context is within the bounds of Christianity, and I'd be beyond shocked if you can convince me from a Christian aspect how taking what he can get, murdering his wife, and leaving his children to others while rotting in prison would ever be endorsed in Christianity.
What Christianity does offer as an option: "It is good for a man to not touch a woman." So you're asking in a Christian context whether or do something explicitly endorsed or willfully committing multiple sins, well that's an easy conclusion.
Another one I've never heard of.
Genuinely, I thought this would actually be funny or disturbing if it was one of the older guys but I looked this guy up and he's some random faggot I've never seen before or heard of. He dresses and looks like a wannabe hoodrat douchebag, and the only site he has any followers on is tiktok.
This guy is basically a nobody.
How the fuck do you even read these threads without making an account anymore? Nitter is dead.
Any retard who tries to make a ho into a housewife despite all advice from anyone with a scrap of wisdom in his family, will get the ending he deserves. What a retard.
The male genetic line is not the only part that contributes, fool. Having children with vile women propagates their genes as well.
He's a grifting clown, too. 23 year old chairforce goon whose first result when I looked him up was a tiktok talking about trying to get VA disability.
“…Which is messed up… but hey I’m not judging.” That right there is a lie and proof that it’s a lie, all in one sentence.
Edit: I should add that a proper Christian understands that there is only one judge who matters. Knee-jerk clap-backs like this are a sign of spiritual immaturity.
She's a fucking narcissistic, egotistical whore lmao she loves the limelight
His wife's labia and butthole will be shared across the world and it will be the gift bought up to his children through her at school. The shame and stench can't be washed off her.