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jvardrake 11 points ago +11 / -0

It doesn't matter what he actually did. It only matters what the leftists in the DoJ can serve up to the leftists in the media to report on. This was 100% orchestrated.

  • Russia's original funding of this was 100% orchestrated to sow more discontent/chaos here in the US.
  • The leftists in the Dept. of Justice magically catching this a month out from the election is 100% orchestrated.

Seriously - it's utterly ridiculous at this point how much they are being allowed to influence every election at this point. The leftists infesting our government do whatever the fuck they want, and then work in conjunction with their comrades in the media/tech companies to propagandize the masses in the middle.

The right is never going to win another election if this stuff isn't dealt with.

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jvardrake 4 points ago +4 / -0

You're eating a bunch of down votes, but I'm extremely sympathetic to what you're saying. Up until the point that the guy has actually done something illegal, I'm not really sure what people would like done to him? I mean, if just having some people report you means that the FBI/Government is allowed to do whatever it wants to you, at that point, isn't that pretty fucking scary? People don't see how that could be abused to go after anyone with politics the left doesn't like?

Look - If they're getting a lot of reports on someone, sure - the FBI better do all due fucking diligence, and thoroughly look into everything they legally can. Once they've done that, though, they shouldn't be allowed to push it any further.

This is a really difficult societal level problem, and when it gets to this point, it really ends up falling more on family/friends. If people have kids that seem like they are going to be a fucking problem, they need to keep a super vigilant eye on them. What we don't need is for the government to be given even more un-regulated, discretionary, ability to go after private citizens however they see fit. You know goddamn well how (and who) the left is going to go after with that.

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jvardrake 2 points ago +2 / -0

Maybe TNG did get it right? In the future, everyone will wear variations of jumpsuit-unitards?

OP should start rocking this.

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jvardrake 17 points ago +17 / -0

Is is insane. We already saw what her running as the presidential candidate - "skillfully and dexterously" on her own - was like in 2020: she pulled around ~2% support.

Her "success" now is due to exactly what you mentioned in your last paragraph. She's got literally the near entirety of the media, and near entirety of the internet tech companies (that control the vast major of all information flow for our entire populace) doing everything they can to slander opponent (this part, they've been engaging in this for almost 10 fucking years now - 2015-2024), and prop her up. Seriously - everything the average disinterested person in the middle hears/sees/discusses if filtered through them.

Despite all that - even enjoying that massive advantage - the best that obnoxious asshole of a person can do is a race that is basically a 50:50 toss-up.

I've said it before - without the massive - utterly MASSIVE - indoctrination/propaganda system the left has been allowed to construct, there is ZERO way they would ever stand a chance. Reasonable people don't want what they want, unless they are indoctrinated into it.

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jvardrake 6 points ago +9 / -3

I don't know. On one hand, being a guy - and knowing firsthand how powerful that drive to seek out a girl is - I'm incredibly sympathetic. I've been married for a while now, but I still remember what it was like, so - I get it. On the other hand, we guys are also blessed with greater faculties of reasoning, and (especially) logic, and - at some point - it's totally on you if you're not making use of it.

This d00d had obviously fallen in love with his idea of what this particular woman was, and not what/who she actually was. She had (painfully) demonstrated the difference(s) to him many - many - times. It's just so crazy that he had seen how big of a piece of shit she actually was (not just to him, but to everyone), how big of a liar and a hypocrite she was (again - not just to him, but to everyone), many, many times, but he still couldn't convince himself that she wasn't a genuinely bad person for that long? WTF? It's not like she was super attractive or anything, either. She's was a pudgy girl with somewhat big b00bs, and a disgusting amount of tats.. Looks aren't everything, but I mention this because sometimes a guy's stupidity can make "sense" when you take into account that the reason they're making so many stupid decisions with regards to a particular girl is because he's allowing himself to be manipulated by her looks. I don't see how that can be the case here. Anyway...

Guys really need to get this concept into their heads: you have this powerful drive to seek out romance with a girl. We all know it exists. We all spend giant amounts of time building up this concept of what a great partner would be like. We base this on everything we've experienced, all sort of media we've consumed, games we've played, etc. Then we run into this potential partner, convince ourselves that she's exactly that ideal, and then proceed to allow our "drive" to render all our logic/reason inert, and it renders us extremely vulnerable to being easily manipulated.

People need to work a lot harder to see the women they're dating as they actually are, and not as this ideal that they're imagining them to be. I know it's hard, but it's on us to do that, and to not allow yourself to be so easily manipulated - all over the ideal that we're imagining we're dealing with.

Edit: One more time, because it is still so incredible to me. How in the FUCK was this woman, wit these looks able to manipulate so many guys into bending to her will, by fucking them? Seriously???

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jvardrake 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dad shoe New Balances became a thing to "subvert fashion expectations"

Maybe she can write a new paper on "deterritorialising" the "dad-dominated" shoe scene with regards to New Balance? I bet her "bodily potential is culturally regulated" because of not having society approve of her access to those shoes.

Honestly, that is another part of this whole thing that is so obnoxious - imagining how this experience of everyone (everyone but her buddies in the media) clowning on her for her asinine "performance" is going to just give her additional fuel for more of her "intersectional feminism and the breaking world" papers. Seriously - you can be absolutely certain that is what she is telling herself right this minute - "all of this reaction is because of them hating on me for being a female!"

Note: the quoted sections are actual quotes from this asshole's thesis/papers that I have posted up above.

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jvardrake 12 points ago +12 / -0

This lady is literally exactly what she looks/sounds/acts like: a raging shitbag leftist academic.

Here is her PhD "thesis": Deterritorializing gender in Sydney's breakdancing scene: a B-girl's experience of B-boying

thesis posted on 2022-03-28, 05:49 authored by Rachael Louise Gunn (This part seems hilariously telling to me, as well. She's 36 now, which seems to point to her getting her PhD in gender studies finished up when she was 34? This woman has spent her entire fucking life at school, echo chambering with other assholes just like her...)

This thesis critically interrogates how masculinist practices of breakdancing offers a site for the transgression of gendered norms. Drawing on my own experiences as a female within the male-dominated breakdancing scene in Sydney, first as a spectator, then as an active crew member, this thesis questions why so few female participants engage in this creative space, and how breakdancing might be the space to displace and deterritorialise gender. I use analytic autoetthnography and interviews with scene members in collaboration with theoretical frameworks offered by Deleuze and Guttari, Butler, Bourdieu and other feminist and post-structuralist philosophers, to critically examine how the capacities of bodies are constituted and shaped in Sydney's breakdancing scene, and to also locate the potentiality for moments of transgression. In other words, I conceptualize the breaking body as not a 'body' constituted through regulations and assumptions, but as an assemblage open to new rhizomatic connections. Breaking is a space that embraces difference, whereby the rituals of the dance not only augment its capacity to deterritorialize the body, but also facilitate new possibilities for performativities beyond the confines of dominant modes of thought and normative gender construction. Consequently, this thesis attempts to contribute to what I perceive as a significant gap in scholarship on hip-hop, breakdancing, and autoethnographic explorations of Deleuze-Guattarian theory.

So, basically, she's the same sort of person that destroys gaming, D&D, M:TG, Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr. Who, boardgamming, etc. She's another asshole "intersectional feminist" that forces her way into everyone else's communities, cultures, hobbies, complains that they don't conform to her gender/politics, and then attempts to destroy them.

This is literally all she does. Here are more of her papers/research:

“Don’t Worry, it’s Just a Girl!”: Negotiating and Challenging Gendered Assumptions in Sydney’s Breakdancing Scene

In this article, I analyse how bodily potential is culturally regulated in Sydney's breakdancing (breaking) scene through drawing both on my breakdancing practice and interviews conducted with prominent figures in this scene. I critically examine my lived experiences as one of only a few female breakdancers ("b-girls") in Sydney through analytic autoethnography, and use the theoretical tools of Deleuze and Guattari to unpack and challenge normative gendered narratives. With breakdancing culturally inscribed as masculine ("b-boying") and its conventions interlocking with broader patriarchal restrictions that inhibit female participation and bodily expression, I argue that the Sydney breaking scene is both a site of transgression and regression for the female body. This paradox confronting the b-girl sees her participation as "othered", while also challenging normative assumptions of gender. Through situating specific practices of breaking within broader Australian culture and gender norms, I examine how the performances of b girls and b-boys in Australia disrupt the stability of binary logic on which the organization of bodies is so heavily reliant and, in doing so, allow for the experience of breaking as a site of "pure" difference. Normal 0 false false false EN-US JA X-NONE

Dancing away distinction: Queering hip hop culture through all style battles

This article analyses how ‘all style’ battles facilitate a queering of hip hop’s dance floor. ‘All style’ battles incorporate various ‘street dance’ styles and their respective music genres (such as breaking, popping, locking, [freestyle] hip hop, waacking, krumping and house). The intermixing and joining of divergent performativities, styles and cultural histories on the all style dance floor reconstitute hip hop’s rigid hierarchies of gender and sexuality by offering a site that celebrates plurality. In doing so, all style battles bypass the foundations that inform and legitimize hip hop’s heteropatriarchal distinctions, including the naturalization of an inherent, stable gendered self. ‘Queering’ the dance floor calls into question all bodily performance previously organized through gender. It exposes the stylization of the body, and the logic it rests upon, as an artifice. Through queering the dance floor, this article shows how all style battles can deconstruct, disrupt and expose the hierarchized heteropatriarchal distinctions in hip hop culture, calling attention to their arbitrary constructedness.

Where the #bgirls at? Politics of (in)visibility in breaking culture

Representation is a central tenet of hip-hop culture, yet women’s experiences and contributions have long been invisibilised. This article reveals some of the barriers to visibility facing women in breaking (“b-girls”). It shows how b-girls respond to gender-based challenges and their sense of obligation to be visible in order to promote gender equality. Through participant-observation, interviews with Sydney b-girls, and online case studies, this article situates b-girling practices “in relation to” a hip-hop feminist framework. This article shows how white hetero-patriarchal neoliberal structures shape visibility in breaking culture, and how b-girls respond to, negotiate, challenge, and enact their representation.

Seriously... this is all she does. Every paper she's published is exactly like this. She goes around inserting/forcing her way/politics into cultures/hobbies that other people have worked on making for decades, and then complains about how they're not built with her in mind.

It's so fucking tiresome that this is what goes on at all the west's universities. She studied this crap until she was 34 fucking years old, and what - you might ask yourself - does she do now (when she's not busy making a mockery of someone else's culture) ? She's a lecturer, that is responsible for further perpetuating the leftist rot in the universities.

Goddamn, was it a colossal fuckup that previous generations allowed these people to entrench themselves in our higher education system.

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jvardrake 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nah. That one in the pic wasn't her famous kangaroo. It was this part of her "performance".

Sorry for the tiktok link, but they've been so aggressively trying to remove her hilarious act from the internet, it was hard to find anywhere else.

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jvardrake 5 points ago +5 / -0

The mainstream media is desperately trying to paint the concept of "two-tier policing" as a far right conspiracy theory and dog whistle.

It's because that's the entire game here - and on everything else the radical left has been up to in every western country.

If the left can use the media, the tech companies, and the power of the government (state violence, and imprisoning people) to get out ahead of this story (i.e., paint everyone upset with the current situation as "violent far-right thugs"), they win.

If they fail, and they can't get out in front - and maintain control of the narrative - they know they're fucked. The vast majority of your average white British citizens don't want what these leftist activists in the media/government want. It's not normal to want to see your country be completely changed from what you grew up in. It's not normal to be shown a graph of how your country was like 99% white in 1951, 92% white until even 2001, and to have asshole politicians laugh, and talk about how it's a "good thing" that it's down into the 80's, and even better that it will keep going lower. Seriously - it's not fucking normal. No one in a place like - Japan, for example - would think it was good if Japan was suddenly less Japanese (<-- Watch this. It's "hilarious" to see his shock...). Only in the west, where the shitbag left has seized control, is it "normal" for people to laugh as their own cultures are being destroyed.

The shitbag left being allowed to do what they do is based entirely upon controlling what the populace sees/hears. It's literally that simple. Without that control, they fucking lose.

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jvardrake 3 points ago +3 / -0

"Mr Musk, it seems to me, should stick to batteries, cars, and rockets because he's very good at it and leave to the UK authorities the job of dealing with the protection of the safety and security of our communities deciding what people are allowed to be upset about, and what they are allowed to say regarding it, or - rather - if they are allowed to say anything at all. Seriously - we are your betters, and we know best. We shall decide for you. Your job is to pay your taxes, and shut the fuck up."

by Lethn
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jvardrake 1 point ago +1 / -0

he's probably going to start arresting middle class mothers over tweets and facebook posts, that's when shit will really start kicking off

How are you imagining the masses are going to be told about this? The media isn't going to report on it. And, even if they did, they would spin it in a way that makes those mothers look like "evil fascists nazis" who got what they deserved. Are you imagining people are going to organize on the internet to get the message out? It sure doesn't seem like that's going to happen either, as the tech companies are totally onboard with the left's authoritarian response of banning people from talking about it (labeling it hate speech), and assisting in getting it taken down, and helping those same authoritarians in arresting those responsible for the dissent.

So, how are you imagining that people are going to be allowed to organize this resistance, where shit is to really start kicking off?

Please note I'm asking seriously, and not facetiously. I don't live over there (although, I really feel for the average nationalistic type British person who is being forced to sit by and watch their Nation/culture be destroyed), so I would love to hear it from you, as you are there on the ground. To me, it seems like this is going to go the exact same way as the whole Trucker Protest thing in Canada.

by Lethn
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jvardrake 4 points ago +4 / -0

Normies are normies because they are politically disinterested, and - thus - they are extremely easy to control by the leftist indoctrination/propaganda system.

What we are seeing here is the exact same thing we see in every other big news story. You've got the leftists in the government, the media, and the tech companies all conspiring to get out ahead in front of the story. They label everyone daring to not comply with the left's politics as "The Far Right", call everything "racist thuggery", use the government's monopoly on the use of force to go after those political opponents, have the tech companies go to work on the net, banning people from sharing anything that disproves their narrative, etc.

What is going on in England is the same thing that is going on everywhere else. They run the same gameplan over, and over, and over... because it works. It's the system of indoctrination and propaganda the left has been allowed to construct doing their best to control the narrative. Control the narrative = control the normies.

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jvardrake 30 points ago +30 / -0

It's because the left has no absolute morality. Abusing your authority, and beating up a 78 year old with a bat - while it could be bad in certain situations - is totally acceptable, so long as it's done with the correct politics behind it. Seriously - I challenge anyone to provide a bunch of cases of the left balking at absolutely disgusting violence, hypocrisy, etc. when it's done by their side against their political opponents. It doesn't happen. They don't care. Instead, you see gloating. This sort of garbage is all over Twitter, all over Reddit, etc. They create entire subs to celebrate stuff like this.

It's like this every single time the left seizes power somewhere, too. Massive campaigns of violence. Purges. Everyone stealing from others. People lying to authorities about their neighbors. Anything/everything is acceptable when the left gains control.

And, it's sold to the masses the exact same way, every single time: "you're the oppressed! The only reason your life isn't as great as you want is because of those other people. Put us in charge, and surely we will give you more put you on top".

Then you get the exact same thing that always happens: The unwashed masses (and the intellectual class that lead them into the trap) are suckered into that easy message every single time, and then... On noes! It turns out that there is still massive disparity, but now it's determined by your place in The Party. There is still an "elite" class (The Party heads), who now have all the goodies, now practice as much nepotism and favoritism as they want, now make all the rules and can have you (and your family) imprisoned with zero due process, and now - as opposed to the capitalist system where at least you had a chance to work hard and improve your lot, or at least your children's lot - you are a permanent peasant.

This is the left. This is who they are. This is how it always works out.

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jvardrake 2 points ago +2 / -0

The reason people fall for it is because it happens very rarely and is surprisingly effective when it does.

For me, this just proves what I already know. There is absolutely zero way the left can win at anything without their system of indoctrination and propaganda. It's not fucking normal for people to want stuff like mentally ill d00ds, pretending to be women, being allowed to use the women's restroom. It's not normal to hate, and revile your own country/culture. It's not normal for people to be fucking stupid enough to think racism is bad, except when it's directed at white people, in countries where white people are the majority. It's not normal for those same white people to cheer on being replaced by immigrants who turn the place into a third world shit-hole. None of this crap is normal! People are indoctrinated, and peer-pressured into being like this.

This is why, when something like the Bud-Light thing slips through the media's ability to get on top of it and control it, you get to see what the public is actually like, when they're not being controlled by the left.

God, I hate the fucking left. They get their feet in the door by abusing the west's open societies, and free speech, they start first with the extremely easy to sell message of, "The only reason you don't have as much as you want, is because someone else is taking it from you!", and then they pile on all this other extremely destructive ideology. It's an absolute fucking cancer.

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jvardrake 8 points ago +8 / -0

Straight up this.

I see it all the damn time. "We should be campaigning on so-and-so's record!", "We should be pointing out x to the public!", "Look at how they got caught in a lie! We should be hammering their hypocrisy!", etc. The left laughs their asses off at these "attacks", because they have no teeth.

The right has next to zero ability to reach the politically disinterested people in the middle (What is left? You've got maybe Joe Rogan? And what a surprise, who have they been going after lately...). All the stuff the right says either only gets to people already firmly on the right, or - if it reaches the people in the middle at all - is filtered through the leftist propaganda system.

Meanwhile, the entire goddamn country (and basically every other western country, as well) goes through an education system that has been setup to indoctrinate everyone's kids into a leftist mindset, and - on top of that - everyone is constantly beset by near endless amounts of propaganda and narrative-shaping solely designed to make the left look good, and the right look bad. No, not designed to just make the right look bad, but to equate them to Nazis, and fascists - designed to put enormous amounts of pressure on not just "the normies", but on the young, and vulnerable youth to never associate themselves with anything that comes out of the right, as that gets you labelled, and unpersonned.

Look at fucking England the other day, as just one small example. I was in the living room watching some YT while I was lifting weights (via a PS5 hooked up to the TV), and near the entire "Breaking News" ribbon was absolutely filled with clips from the media railing about how "the FAR RIGHT" was rioting, and implying how there was absolutely zero reason any white person in England had any right to be upset, or question anything. Seriously - "Far fight!", "Far right!", "Far right!". "DO NOT EMPATHIZE OR EVEN HEAR WHAT THEY MIGHT BE SAYING, CITIZEN! IF ONE DID THAT, THEY TOO WOULD BE A FAR RIGHT NAZI!" Seriously - every single goddamn clip, and that's just this one story. They do it with literally everything.

This is what I'm (we're) talking about. They have every advantage possible available to them. You get it served up to you on YouTube. Your searches are biased towards it. You see it all over every social discussion site (Reddit, Facebook, etc). Apple/Google serves it up to your phones via their news push-notifications. Microsoft sends it to your desktop via their news thing in the taskbar. Wikipedia is totally gamed to all hell with their (and ONLY their) versions of all of history. Any "fact-checking" site is full of it. For the average person, it is inescapable. The right has nothing even approaching 1% of this level of power.

Nothing is ever going to change, no amount of articles by right-wing affiliated sites, no amount of pointing out the lies, pointing out the hypocrisy, is ever going to matter, until something is done to break the left's indoctrination/propaganda system. People need to be extremely involved in monitoring their kids, and informing/raising them in a way that they are not susceptible to this system. It is possible. I live in fucking California, and I've managed to do it with my son. People need to do that, they need to be (skillfully, not bluntly) always working on their friends to gently show them the system, and how it works. People need to (online, where you don't have to be subtle/gentle) constantly rail against this system. Their system needs to be under constant attack.

If people don't start taking it extremely fucking serious - and not laughing it off (like the previous generations did with leftists in the colleges...) with, "No one care about the media. Hur, hur hur!", "It's just some stupid jannie on reddit shaping the narrative on his default sub! Like *that * is going to effect the election! Hur hur hur!", the west is gone. They are going keep indoctrinating, and keep injecting immigrants (who don't share the west's views, but do have a shitload of kids) into all of our countries, until there are too few of us left to put up any sort of resistance.

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jvardrake 15 points ago +15 / -0

And how exactly is this article going to reach "the normies"?

People just still don't get it. The left controls what the disinterested masses in the middle see/hear. The right has next to zero ability to reach those people.

Look. The article's great. No one is going to see it, though.

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jvardrake 10 points ago +10 / -0

Of course they are. When have you ever known the shitbag left to stop doing something just because it was revealed they are doing something dishonestly?

These people always double down. Being "caught" means nothing. It's the sort of arrogance that is only possible when you are absolutely sure that you control the narrative. The left owns the media, and owns the tech companies. The average person gets all their information from those 2 things. Thus, they control 99% of what the disinterested people in the middle see/hear. Thus, they do whatever the fuck they want.

Nothing is ever going to change until the propaganda monopoly they have created is broken. Nothing the right says reaches anyone other than people already firmly on the right. The right isn't going to change public opinion by publishing the truth of what the left is engaging in, because no one in the middle is going to be exposed to it.

This same propaganda monopoly has a 50/50 chance of ramming even Kamala Harris through this November. When/if that happens, hopefully some of the idiots in leadership positions on the right finally start to get it, and finally start acting accordingly.

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jvardrake 2 points ago +2 / -0

Seriously. What's all this then? Do we have a loicense to be discussin' what's legal and not? You lot come with me...

lol

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jvardrake 2 points ago +2 / -0

My question for you would be, "Why not?".

The entirety of the media, and the entirety of the tech companies that control what people get pushed on the internet, is shamelessly, and relentlessly biased against the right. They were never going to allow the insanity that they have created, and the assassination attempt it resulted in, to be the focus of the election. Fuck, they all moved in lockstep last time to get the stupid ass Hunter Biden computer stuff out of the public eye. There was zero way didn't move against this.

People really need to stop blowing this off, and start taking it seriously. The only reason the left ever gains power, or is allowed to keep it, at this point is the fact that they get to control what people see/hear, and what is hidden from them. Until this indoctrination/propaganda system is taken seriously (and not just seriously, but extremely seriously) the right is probably never going to win again.

The disinterested masses in the middle are far too easy to control with that system.

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jvardrake 3 points ago +3 / -0

The left pulls in ~54-60ish percent of women every presidential election, vs around 39-44ish percent for the right. I doubt that Harris is going to do much better than that. She certainly isn't going to get anywhere near 80% of women to side with her. She'll definitely get that usual two-thirds of the single/unmarried woman vote (as that's what usually votes with the left), you mentioned, though. They are a lost cause.

This election is going to be the same as the last couple. It's going to come down to a couple percent, in a couple of states. The whole thing is going to be decided by whether or not massive propaganda advantage the left enjoys (by having virtually all the media, and all the tech companies biasing nearly all the internet towards them) can push yet another shitbag leftist (with policies that, when you poll on them, the vast majority of Americans don't like, and don't want) across the finish line.

That's the only thing that matters here: that one side gets to propagandize the disinterested middle.

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jvardrake 2 points ago +2 / -0

I hope I am, too. I just don't have any faith at this point. The left has set up too good of a system for indoctrination, and then propaganda.

If I am wrong about this upcoming election - and GOD, I hope I am - it will do a lot to calm the doomer in me, and restore some faith in the electorate.

We'll see soon enough.

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jvardrake 4 points ago +4 / -0

I was having to explain to my normie family members recently when they were trying to gush about her that she is absolutely hated in the african-american community because of her track record in criminal justice.

It will make absolutely zero difference. The left will carry 80-90% of the black vote, as always.

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jvardrake 3 points ago +3 / -0

It would have to be a massive catalyst, too. If the right tries to go the non lone-wolf route, and tries to organize some sort of resistance?

Oh no! Mysteriously, as it turns out, the left has spent the last decade+ entrenching themselves in the FBI (and Homeland Security, and now the Secret Service, and...), and has already shown - multiple times - that they have weaponized the entire institution, and that they simply declare any political groups they don't like, "homegrown terrorists", and use the power of government to crack down on them.

It's going to be pretty revealing to see more people on this side finally come to the realization - just like they were late, and joked about the leftists in education, and leftists in the media - of how bad of an idea it was to let the radical left infest the government as well.

Just as an aside, isn't it strange how - since 2020ish - they have been doing their absolute best to drive anyone with non-leftist politics out of the police, and out of the military? They have basically made it so that no sane person wants to be a cop anymore, and COVID - with the use of the vaccine mandates - was this incredible tool for identifying, and discharging people with strong conservative beliefs? It's almost like the left realized that, if their revolution ever goes "hot", they can't afford to have the police and military filled with their political opponents? Nah...

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jvardrake 33 points ago +33 / -0

The left is going to do whatever the fuck it wants. It's what always happens.

A court case will come out of it later, but it will be after the fact, they will be told, "You shouldn't have been able to do that", and the response from them (and the media) will basically amount to, "But we already did. Oh no! Anyway..."

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