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Erithal 50 points ago +50 / -0

Just like the D&D rainbow hair crowd decided depictions of orcs were actually "coded black" and therefore racist. Self-aware black folks should have paused a moment and said to them: "you see us like that?"

Most of those who did were on the conservative side of 'you ain't black.'

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Erithal 3 points ago +4 / -1

The limitations of monarchy is what TrueElephant was talking about:

There's your problem. You conceive of any governing authority as having the power of a modern liberal state. An absolute fuedal monarch is far more limited in his power than a democratic state. Mass conscription isn't possible without a democratic political formula to justify itself as the will of the masses, as demonstrated well by the contrast of Napoleon and the coalition. The machinations of a king and his court does not touch the peasant, who can manage his piece of land as he pleases without applying for permits. Furthermore, it is in the interest of the Rex to uplift his people towards a better condition.

The power is held by the STATE and NOT by individuals and their economic prowess ( capitalism )

OWNERSHIP is separate from power. You can argue it's upstream from it, really, since an owner has rights over his own property. Even in an absolute monarchy, the monarch doesn't own the entirety of the means of production, which is what the definition of socialism requires.

But go ahead, flail and cry about socialist absolute monarchs.

Also: NAME ONE.

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Erithal 3 points ago +3 / -0

socialism [ soh-shuh-liz-uhm ]

noun

a theory or system of social organization that advocates the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, capital, land, etc., by the community as a whole, usually through a centralized government.

monarchy [ mon-er-kee ]

noun, plural mon·ar·chies.

a state or nation in which the supreme power is actually or nominally lodged in a monarch. Compare absolute monarchy, limited monarchy.

A monarchist system needn't be socialist, just by definitions alone.

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Erithal 2 points ago +3 / -1

Poor little europeans ... the bad americans aren't letting them be more capitalist ... FUCK ME .

Absolutely not an accurate summary of what he said. But hey-- tell me you can't parse complex English and nuance without explicitly saying so, why don't you?

Capitalism versuses communism is a false dichotomy.

=))

Sure sounds like a capitalist to me =))

He's pointing out that if you let yourself be penned in by a capitalist vs. socialist/communist paradigm, you've already lost. The types pushing the great reset are big on using the Hegelian dialectic to shift what's acceptable to talk about. They control both opposing viewpoints, then manage the process of synthesizing them-- and they get the results they want most of the time.

It's a big part of why we have hybrid capitalist-socialist systems in most of the countries of the world, with more socialism getting added to the mix over time.

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Erithal 3 points ago +4 / -1

To be fair, I think he's not a native speaker, and your rhetorical 'setting of the scene' which you oppose was taken by him as an earnest throaty endorsement of those positions.

Tbh, I hate having to go the extra mile sometimes. Being sworn to Christ is a pain.

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Erithal 4 points ago +4 / -0

It ain't my alt, dude.

And it ain't like the US military presence lets them set domestic policy in Europe... influence, sure, but not the power to control. The EU is sovereign and should own it's own shit entirely.

The US has it's own separate and parallel issues with socialism, mostly surrounding the subversion of education and media-- something the socialists resorted to in the 60s when the material prosperity of the 50s kept the revolution from happening. That's it's own thread, and since you aren't American, I'd be glad to explain what I can, and direct you to James Lindsay for the rest. It's not backwash from the EU. Americans are insular as fuck and have our own, homegrown socialists to worry about.

TentElephant ain't a socialist because he's opposed to the GAE-- it's a derogatory or pejorative term coming from him. When he goes on at length about the evils of American Empire and the corruption it causes, he isn't justifying it-- he's explaining at length why the very creeping socialism you're upset about needs to be fought. In going global, Americanism has gone through "mission creep" into becoming a globalist enterprise.

Given you're European (likely not British Isles, because Brexit), and English is likely a second language for you, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. I asked you to quote TentElephant defending the EU because my reading of what he's said doesn't parse that way, as a native speaker. He's laying out the structure as part of opposing it in a broader argument.

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Erithal 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep. EU's rotten-- fully committed to socialist redistribution, second only to making itself into a federal government by subverting the nations within it.

US has been going downhill since FDR's new deal grafted socialist systems into the republic. Arguably longer, if you want to count the consolidation of federal power over the states, under Lincoln as being against the founder's principles.

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Erithal 6 points ago +6 / -0

Ah, lordy. I think I short circuited this guy by attacking him over his defamation of you as a socialist.

Have a good one, mate. This flame war is keeping me chuckling.

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Erithal 6 points ago +7 / -1

Which one of our enemies is israel funding ?

Never claimed this.

They don't have to be funding our enemies to make the term "strongest ally" a joke. The USS Liberty incident springs directly to mind.

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Erithal 4 points ago +5 / -1

Yes, not supporting Israel makes me a NAZI.

Collectivism is stupid, Nazism included.

Sure, National socialists are socialists, absolutely. They just try to steal for their nation, rather than the international socialists. who steal from nations.

No ... but socialising the people does .

Right, where did I do that?

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Erithal 6 points ago +7 / -1

Now you are paddling BULSHIT ! The eu wants to remain under American protection while funding countries that want to invade eastern allies ... so not really a good ally

Just like Israel, then? They're America's "Strongest Ally," glad to see the US has another pack of weasels just like 'em! :D (This is sarcasm.)

But yeah, glad you're picking up on it. I see that same Bullshit too. I am equally upset about it.

None of that makes me a socialist.

And like I pointed out-- TentElephant isn't either.

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