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posted ago by TheImpossible1 +50 / -5

So, if Trump wins - He might not, a lot of projections where he wins has him taking near half the female vote and I just can't see that happening...

But if he does, how do we reconcile society exactly? You have women's stupid cult of murderer worshipping psychos pushing for mass murder - as much as I hate to admit it, we have to somehow allow them a path to forgiveness.

Then you have the communist idiots coming out of the colleges into the streets for Antifa - where do they fit in a world where CRT has been disposed of? Can they be fixed?

As for the "regular" Biden voters, these people believe that Russia is stealing the election, how on Earth will they be convinced that his win is legitimate?

What about all the corporate virtue signallers?

So, if Trump wins - He might not, a lot of projections where he wins has him taking near half the female vote and I just can't see that happening... *But if he does*, how do we reconcile society exactly? You have women's stupid cult of murderer worshipping psychos pushing for mass murder - as much as I hate to admit it, we have to somehow allow them a path to forgiveness. Then you have the communist idiots coming out of the colleges into the streets for Antifa - where do they fit in a world where CRT has been disposed of? Can they be fixed? As for the "regular" Biden voters, these people believe that Russia is stealing the election, how on Earth will they be convinced that his win is legitimate? What about all the corporate virtue signallers?
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Galean 56 points ago +56 / -0

If you think we are ever going back to normal you are mistaken. The rift that happened in the last 4 years is not going to go away no matter who wins. Media and academia have made anyone who is not a leftist to be subhuman. They will continue this trend, the left is not listening to the right, why would they listen to subhuman monsters. Nothing short of complete submission to leftist ideology will appease them.

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RoulerBleu 24 points ago +24 / -0 (edited)

Just the debate over immigration went totally insane.

Now anything but totally open borders with limitless immigration makes you a racist nazi. It is outside the realm of acceptable opinion to refuse to have the population of your nation replaced by mass-migration.

In many areas and most universities everywhere, you cannot oppose immigration without being censored for hate speech and sent to re-education "sensitivity training".

How does a society unite back from that? It dosen't. It either snaps into another major paradigm-shift conflict eliminating mass-migration from the landscape of political opinion, or dissolves in mass-migration and stops existing.

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TheImpossible1 [S] 19 points ago +19 / -0

Well, that's the problem.

It seems like the only hope is for all the conspiracies (PG + Q LARP) to be true, not because it takes pieces off the board, but because that shock to everyone's system might help people step away from the left.

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GoggleHead 15 points ago +16 / -1

Nothing short of complete submission to leftist ideology will appease them.

I'll settle for subjugating them and seeing to it that can spread no more harm.

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Steampunk_Moustache 7 points ago +7 / -0

The rift that happened in the last 4 years

It was already starting at the end of the Bush years. Obama accellerated it, and the election of Trump was the final straw.

You're right, though. There's no going back to how it was. It's going to be like this for the forseeable future, and whatever it becomes, it won't ever be what it was, ever again.

There is a very real possibility the US is heading for civil war and secessions very soon.

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magabzdy 36 points ago +36 / -0

Irrelevant of the result, how do we reconcile? Do you believe if Trump loses, people will just go "oh the polls must be right, I guess he lost"? Do you believe the left won't unhinge twice as hard in its attempts to pack courts, push the agenda, and stop any hope of the US staying the US? I don't know that we do reconcile frankly, the left is pushing division at every opportunity.

Spez: to answer the question, no I don't believe we can. "Best" case it gets memoryholed.

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TheImpossible1 [S] 26 points ago +28 / -2

I believe if Trump loses legitimately, everyone will be so demoralized that they'll just give up. What is there to rally behind if the majority of the population doesn't even want freedom?

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magabzdy 29 points ago +29 / -0

I guess that raises another question, what bar is currently set that people will believe a result is legitimate? I dint know anyone who can be convinced their candidate lost in this particular election.

Then, at what point does secession become a worthwhile option?

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almond_activator 3 points ago +3 / -0

Then, at what point does secession become a worthwhile option?

As soon as someone can determine how to divide the country into urban and rural in a way both sides will respect (because the Constitution already does that, but the urban population centers don't respect it).

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Galean 15 points ago +15 / -0

I'm demoralized, but I spend to much time online and my hobbies turned to shit. If Trump does not win, I'll just cut myself off from online and most people and just wait for time to passes and hope to stay safe while everything I love, outside of family turns to shit. I do not think I'll get involved in politics in the future. I'm thinking maybe start fishing? I'm not much in to outdoors but good time to start I guess.

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TheImpossible1 [S] 14 points ago +15 / -1

My hobbies and everything I grew up with turned to shit too. (Thanks, women!)

I'll probably take a much lower profile and look into moving somewhere women's cult has no power. Maybe the UAE, they even have Formula 1 races there I could go to.

I don't know what I'd do in terms of political involvement. President Harris would likely crush all opposition to female supremacy globally. Maybe we'd even see a Covid-21 with a far greater ability to kill males.

I really do fear the future they want for us, but I refuse to just submit.

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AntonioOfVenice 5 points ago +13 / -8

My hobbies and everything I grew up with turned to shit too. (Thanks, women!)

If I could rid you of your tunnelvision that ignores the pathetic, smelly, greasy men ruining your hobbies and the women who are based, I would die a happy man.........

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TheImpossible1 [S] 12 points ago +14 / -2

How many prominent conservative women have been outed as traitors at this point?

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lTentacleMonsterl 11 points ago +11 / -0

“We are born into this time and must bravely follow the path to the destined end. There is no other way. Our duty is to hold on to the lost position, without hope, without rescue, like that Roman soldier whose bones were found in front of a door in Pompeii, who, during the eruption of Vesuvius, died at his post because they forgot to relieve him. That is greatness. That is what it means to be a thoroughbred. The honorable end is the one thing that can not be taken from a man.” - Oswald Spengler.

I do not think I'll get involved in politics in the future

Politics as in voting, arguing, and similar things are largely meaningless. What isn't meaningless, is offering vastly different views to people from the ones present in society; that is, illiberal beliefs and criticism of liberalism, "democracy," etc and their purpose as illusions within the system, which fundamentally is dominated by money. The quote above is somewhat pompous but I do like the sound of it, as something that's worth thinking of.

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Steampunk_Moustache 4 points ago +4 / -0

At that point, red state seccessionism will be the hot topic. Civil war.

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persiaprince 3 points ago +3 / -0

Or that's when the optics game will end and people will start looking for solutions outside the system.

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browarrior1950 1 point ago +2 / -1

Trump or Biden giving freedom to the people? Yeah right...

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Kingarthas2 24 points ago +24 / -0

I think were fucked eventually, the next democrat that gets in, unless something changes, is going to flood us with immigrants/refugees, pack the courts, make mail in a regular thing, and look the other way on all of the fuckery going on.

And then you have nothing but leftists getting elected and a giant chunk of the country feeling like they don't have a voice.

Gonna be real fucking fun.

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acp_k2win 15 points ago +16 / -1

court packing and removing the filibuster will result in secession of texas, florida and a lot of the south and midwest

if the then president harris calls up the army to stop it the corrupted brass might go for it but the grunts won't participate enthusiastically

that will necessitate UN "peacekeepers" at which point they will realize "behind every blade of grass" is closer to reality than metaphor

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Galean 12 points ago +14 / -2

Texas is purple, no way for a secession. Fuck I'm depressed.

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anon12 8 points ago +8 / -0

The locusts have migrated from the dead fields of california to Texas, and there isn't enough pesticide to go around.

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TheImpossible1 [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

They have to win FL or TX to win the election, so if they're both Republican, there won't be a President Harris.

UN involvement is extremely wishful thinking. No way they'd sign off on it.

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AntonioOfVenice 4 points ago +5 / -1

Nay, son, if they take Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin they're in.

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TheImpossible1 [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm pretty sure MI and WI are lost because of terrible judge decisions to allow late ballots.

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LungPaoSicken 3 points ago +3 / -0

So GEOTUS wins in a landslide on Election Day, and then the race is on for the Dems to find as many ballots as they can.

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stanzololthrowaway 14 points ago +14 / -0

There is no reconciliation with people who would rather me or anyone like me be dead.

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Breeze 31 points ago +31 / -0

I think the biggest problem is controlling culture and media. A large portion of the population will just go along with what is widely accepting without challenging the ideas. They changed the definition of a word in a day and gas lit a holiday this year. If conservatism suddenly was in control of culture, they would just go along with it.

In terms of ideas, there is no way to reconcile. How do you have a functioning society under leftism? They demonize hard workers, farmers, truck drivers, manual labor and they idealize arbitrary traits. Having no systematic injustice left, they have invented things to pretend they are marginalized. They demonize the country and it's history. At least in USSR or China there is the facade of hard work for the betterment of the country and nationalism. Leftists believe in unlimited immigration and welfare, murdering babies, mutilating children. All their ideas are destructive to civilization. There is no room for compromise.

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TheImpossible1 [S] 14 points ago +14 / -0

An election win wouldn't give control of culture or media.

Leftist ideas are obviously useless, but what about the people? We can't just ostracize nearly everyone under 30 or female or college educated.

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Breeze 8 points ago +8 / -0

An election win wouldn't give control of culture or media.

I know, but the only way to bring the country back together would be to get control over it. We are already on the path: mainstream sports, news and TV are less relevant each year.

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cartoonericroberts 27 points ago +27 / -0

If he loses. Fucking game over on a federal level, amnesty for illegals, a packed court and at least two new states. Game over. I guess focus on strengthening your state because the federal government is gone for us.

If Trump wins, that just delays that permanent rule by another four years. There's no reconciling to be done; it's scrambling to gain enough ground that the dems can't set up permanent rule if the win in 2024.

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Galean 19 points ago +19 / -0

What I expect:

  1. Republicans will never win another presidency for a very very long time
  2. Leftists will feel empowered so I expect they will push more transgender stuff, more white hate, more brainwashing and even more anti-male discrimination
  3. free speech will be gone, conservatives will need to go in to hiding or they will be ostracized from society
  4. they will restrict second amendment to the point where they are going to take them away
  5. taxes will increase
  6. corporations that are on the left will be pushed globally and SJW anti-white and anti-male propaganda will be a global phenomenon
  7. Media and games will also be empowered to be as SJW as possible
  8. Hopefully I die before I get to see everything going to shit
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Steampunk_Moustache 7 points ago +7 / -0

Republicans will never win another presidency for a very very long time

This is what the left believed after Obama won two terms.

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LungPaoSicken 4 points ago +4 / -0

They got cocky. I'm not counting on that mistake again.

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BrigLunch 5 points ago +5 / -0

Hopefully I die before I get to see everything going to shit

The goal isn't to die for your country, but to make the other motherfucker die for theirs. Stop fucking whimpering. If push comes to shove, shove.

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the_nybbler 19 points ago +20 / -1

There is no reconciling. Either Biden wins and we're crushed, or Biden loses and we're crushed in 4 years.

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Very_Technical_Boy 17 points ago +17 / -0

No. I believe we’re past that. For decades the political establishment, especially Democrats, have never faced real consequences for their actions. The bill is due, and it’s time to pay.

As to the culture aspect, all the lefties will be ideologically crushed fairly quickly once they lose the backing of the media and their politicians.

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ApparentlyImAHeretic 14 points ago +14 / -0

Reconciliation will happen over generations, as it takes generations to undo the damage of demoralization. The process might speed up with the mass exodus from large cities, but only time will tell.

In the mean time, it's important to remember that the useful idiots are victims, and are not inheritly your enemy. Many are so far gone that they can't be brought back, but most are not. Do your best to rehabilitate them by reminding them how good we have it, how great your country is, and reminding them of their individuality.

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APDSmith 7 points ago +7 / -0

Reconciliation will happen over generations, as it takes generations to undo the damage of demoralization.

Yeah, I suspect that this level of hate will die out along with the old, bitter cat ladies that today's gender warriors will become.

I'm imagining the male feminists of the group will either have been #metoo'd or contributed to the suicide statistics by that point already.

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rfu12 12 points ago +13 / -1

There is no reconciling, the right has already lost. All of this is just squabbling and dragging out the inevitable. Look at what ethnic groups vote for which party and population growth. Even if by some miracle the republicans win the next election and the next president is a republican too - is that somehow gonna reverse the trend? Same in Europe. I don't see any way to change this without radical action nobody would support (no, not violence either)

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TheImpossible1 [S] 0 points ago +4 / -4

I don't believe in demographic destiny. It's too simplistic and ignores a lot of factors involved and red lines that people have.

I could be wrong, but I expect Trump to pick up a large amount of minority men's votes.

Out of curiosity, what is the action you want? Or is it something you can't say for legal reasons?

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GoggleHead 13 points ago +15 / -2

I don't believe in demographic destiny.

You don't have to believe it, but you will have to suffer the truth of it.

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TheImpossible1 [S] 2 points ago +6 / -4

We'll see. I have more faith in black men to do the right thing than I'd ever have in white women.

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rfu12 6 points ago +6 / -0

No, I can tell you. It's basically more of what we already have.

Being stricter on immigration,

making sure "refugees" MUST go home at some point,

making sure there is some way to still get the endless money back that was given to them,

encouraging families with progressively bigger tax breaks for more educated or income generating families (because those are exactly the people who we want more of and who can guarantee their children a decent childhood and education just based on personal wealth, so that the state won't have to give them even more money)

I don't see anyone leaning left nowadays agreeing to any of that because those are the exact things they hate and want to get rid of already.

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TheImpossible1 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

encouraging families with progressively bigger tax breaks for more educated or income generating families

That's effectively a bachelor tax. That'd go down terribly.

Other than that, your ideas are pretty good and logical. I was expecting something way crazier to be honest.

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ParadigmShift2070 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lol you're an incel because you have a lousy job and can't afford a family, we're gonna make you even more unappealing as a mate by taxing you even more

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lTentacleMonsterl 5 points ago +5 / -0

Demographics are destiny, but that depends on what's meant by it. If we're talking about demographics turning US into an one-party state, sure that's possible. There's a good article documenting how groups vote, and ethnic voting is, has been, and will continue being a thing.

But it's also possible for right to change significantly to play a role in the system like it has done for the last century or so.

If we're talking about values present among the right and US which have changed considerably over time, then they definitely won't remain regardless of which way go. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but eh.

If we're talking about future of the country, then definitely, demographics are destiny; politics, values, and so forth are largely meaningless in and of itself, without the people that give it meaning to begin with. And certainly, in most cases I can't say I care much about politics, values, or the system in South Africa or some other country across the world. Do you? With demographic change it'll be the same with US. Certainly, beyond some of its influence onto the rest of the world.

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lgbtqwtfbbq 11 points ago +11 / -0

Even if I thought it was possible, why would I want to? How does it benefit me?

Certainly I want to see them defeated, but I want that to be done in such a way that I'm no longer in a political union with them. Let them do their thing somewhere else where it doesn't affect me. That's the main thing for me: if a bunch of people want to live in a society where 8 year olds can "change gender", that's their business. But I don't want anything to do with it or be forced to put up with it.

It's the same thing with these "unity" candidates the Weinstein Brothers are trying (and failing thanks to twitter censorship) to put forward. Who honestly thinks either of those guys would want to be "united" with some Evangelical in rural Appalachia if they truly thought the rural Appalachian had any chance at wielding political power over them? The only reason they want "unity" is because they think they'll be the ones wielding the political power.

The only "unity" I want is agreement on where the boundaries between my nation-state ends and where theirs begins, and an understanding of what the penalties are if someone crosses that boundary without permission.

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YouAreAPirate 10 points ago +10 / -0

Reconciliation is not really possible. The Right and Left cannot come together, not when the Left wants the Right dead. There’s a war going on and only one side is fighting it. If you truly want the left and right to come together, the Left’s massive power bases need to be destroyed. Hollywood, corporations, media and academia all need to be subjugated and their ringleaders made examples of.

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Skeptic_Conservative 10 points ago +10 / -0

I think there is a real possibility we reconcile after an outburst of violence. I want us to be able to reconcile in a civil fashion, but this has been decades in the making and it's not the sort of thing that can be undone at a moment's notice.

Our social contract is being strained, and in some places outright shredded. We're losing the ability to trust one another as countrymen. Not everywhere, but too many places where the left is willing to take advantage of people's good natures. Many urban metro areas, for example. That sort of behavior comes with a price, and if we start losing the ability to rely on the police to enforce the law? It's going to get ugly.

I'm hoping and praying that cooler heads prevail and someone in the democrat party leadership, or an influential leftist populist, is able to grasp the reins of the party and steer it away, but it's probably not going to happen before there's a flaring. They've chosen to embrace their crazies and let them run wild, because they think it will give them power. I don't know how you oppose that, other than staying true to principals, setting a good example, and defending one's rights.

The left has successfully hollowed out many of the old pillars of society. They're going to crumble, and the country is going to need other pillars to hold everything up while we rebuild. I think the best thing we can do is try and be those pillars, and hope that reconciliation follows. Otherwise, I guess we have to play it by ear.

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truenationalist 10 points ago +10 / -0

Yes, we can reconcile by making an example of bad actors and punishing them. Then people will wake up.

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Constipatriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree with this 100% but there are pitfalls to be avoided. Part of the problem isn't that the left simply takes a side, they tend to go all in. These people are true believers.

Punishing a single bad actor, guilty as they are, creates a martyr in the eyes of the rest of the movement. Instead of deterring wrong, they rally around the prosecuted and push to abolish crimes related to whatever they were punished for. This is how we get calls to disband police when a thug gets shot. The left can't resist letting good victimhood go to waste. They thrive on it.

So it's a little tricky. How do you discourage and prosecute without becoming a target, either immediately or down the road?

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NihilistCaregiver 9 points ago +9 / -0

Everyone gets a bullet. Literally everyone. That's how a large modern society falls after 244 years of a good run and then brought to its knees by antifa, lazy boomercons, eurofag infiltrators, tech fetishists, and karens.

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666sadfrogs 7 points ago +7 / -0

The cult has had subversive power for decades, it won’t disappear over night.

I’ve seen various predictions, but I don’t trust any of them to be accurate. You do have to remember that the internet loves to amplify the extremes, and the US isn’t Twitter, Reddit, etc.

I live in the middle of the Southern US, and most people around here are open Trumpers, but the city I go to Uni in is quite a bit more supportive of the left. A lot of my lefty classmates happen to be Bernie supporters though, so turn out for Biden is questionable.

My generally non-political parents are pissed at the Democrats this year and even though they don’t love Trump, they have been “red-pilled” about the media, and there is no telling how many other Americans feel the same way.

I’m not quite seeing the Dems losing by a small enough margin that mail in ballots will change the outcome without looking extremely suspicious, but I could be extremely wrong. That is also assuming that the Dems haven’t gone so far gone that they no longer care about optics at all, which might be giving them too much credit.

If the Dems do manage to win, they will likely double down on making sure Trump never happens again, and will disenfranchise half of the population to get their way. To know what happens afterwards you just have to look at what has happened in the past whenever a similar minded group of individuals have no political say and are getting actively oppressed by a government.

The media has convinced people that Democracy is dying and the fascists are rising to power, so if the Dems lose the violence will increase before it decreases. Cities will burn and people will be killed, and we have to hope it doesn’t leave the cities that allow it.

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ManUnderMask 5 points ago +5 / -0

No.

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Norenia 4 points ago +7 / -3

I don’t have to reconcile anything. I say live and let live, but if you want to fuck around, you’ll find out.

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TheImpossible1 [S] 23 points ago +23 / -0

No country can function with a population that is actively at war with itself.

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AntonioOfVenice 15 points ago +15 / -0

A house divided against itself cannot stand.

But that was the point to begin with. Radical leftists hate their country, no matter what it is.

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Norenia 4 points ago +6 / -2

Like I said, if they want to fuck around-

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lTentacleMonsterl 2 points ago +2 / -0

The population isn't at war, though. If you've looked at right's reaction at the start of riots but also even since then, that's clearly demonstrated. Whatever dislike some may have, they'll conform like people tend to do. That's ignoring that other generations will see it like right currently sees suffragettes, feminism in 70s, or civil rights movement.

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Diaboli-Sem 14 points ago +15 / -1

"Live and let live" has been the inherent weakness in conservatism/libertarianism.

Those of us who recognize the importance of the ideals expressed in the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution should have been constantly proselytizing those ideals to protect the future of our country.

Instead, we took our freedom for granted and said "live and let live" while an ideology diametrically opposed to everything we hold dear took over our educational and cultural institutions, then started pumping their disease into the minds of the population.

You can't hope that "live and let live" will protect you while the majority of the people surrounding you are being indoctrinated to hate your very existence. "Fuck around and find out" is going to be your last futile act when overwhelming authoritarian forces come to remove you from society.

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persiaprince 11 points ago +11 / -0

Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society.

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Guy_Incognito76 3 points ago +3 / -0

The right typically caves. They'll accept some token concessions from the left, the left will lie low, go back to quietly eroding society from within, and emerge again in a few years with even more insanity.

The left will not forget or forgive. If they win, people gon die.

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Eldourado 3 points ago +5 / -2

The US is full steam ahead in the demographic transition. There is nothing to reconcile about. This isn't a Civil War, where the same people is killing each other and can make peace latter. This is literally different people's fighting for resources, wealth and power. Trump with his last minute deal for Black America is just a desperate attempt to bribe one of those people's and keep the power. It is like what Gaddafi used to do in Lybia.

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ramzaruglia 2 points ago +2 / -0

There's no reconciliation that needs to be done. Marxists have to be expunged from existence.

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Unknownsailor 2 points ago +2 / -0

If Biden wins, the hot civil war will kick off inside a year. I will not be ruled by some purple haired gender queer, and a lot of people think like I do.

Think ammo is hard to find now? If Biden wins you won't be able to find any, anywhere.

Reconciliation is impossible, the divergence in first principles is too wide.