It’s intentionally vague. Overreacting is a negative thing but what is overeating when a large group of foreigners seized your countries city and are now destroying it in protest?
It’s like the gay conspiracy shit where some unknown force totally has all the tapes of child rape and stuff and is totally on our side but they can’t release it because it so horrible everything will collapse. So instead you just let the child molesting monster keep running the world?
Civil war is bad so just keep letting your country get taken over by MS13.
What’s this guys early history because half agreeing with the right while trying to get them to divert course to doing nothing while pretending to sound reasonable is some tiny hat stuff
This will never stop until the DOJ goes after the people who are funding and organizing it. Trump made a good start by defunding USAID, but that's just the tip of the iceberg. Hundreds of government agencies, NGOs and charities are laundering money to pay for this chaos. It won't matter how many antifa goons or Mexican gang members get arrested if that money is allowed to keep flowing.
Either people haven't come to grips that the ground-game has changed drastically for alot of opinions that were once forbidden to speak about, or they've fallen for the propaganda and merely think such things are unpopular and considered with disgust, when the opposite is true.
Or, conversely, they're still stuck on taking the 'moral high road' in their deluded drive to think that'll help them win, somehow.
I've been lurking in some reddit forums, and I'm seeing a similar talking point about 'avoiding another Kent State', and I agree. We should avoid another Kent State. Where a bunch of terrorists threatening to blow up buildings and murder people get to repaint themselves as a bunch of peace-loving oh-so-innocent college kids who were just trying to make love, not war, maaaaaaan.
One can only hope that we've wrestled enough information power away from Academia and Journalists that something like that doesn't happen again.
Then again, people seem to have completely forgotten about the June 7th riots, so maybe I'm just not cynical enough.
If Bongino and Patel can get off their ass for a minute, now would be a great time to open RICO investigations into the immigration NGO's and the Socialist organizations that are actively inciting riots.
We don't need to send tanks into LA, but we do need to use this to justify further major criminal operations against the Left, and justify further enforcement actions.
In fact, now would be a great time to start putting enough of the organizers in prison for starting riots, while making space for California Republicans to stick their heads out of the parapet and make political advances locally so they can finally challenge the one party state.
All these violent protests are attempts by an elite class to manufacture consensus for policies they desire. Wokal Distance understands they are "created, funded, and organized by people with large networks" but he doesn't seem to understand those people were and are in the government.
In the past, violent protests have functioned as a kayfabe or kabuki theater where the establishment funds violent lunatics to agitate for a desired policy, then pretends to be against it. We saw this clearly with the Summer of Love BLM riots when the curtain between the two parties was almost completely torn in half. Tim Walz's wife was endorsing the riots on live TV, and many jurisdictions stood down. Virtually all the rioters got sweetheart deals from sympathetic prosecutors and bail funds, some of them endorsed by people like Kamala Harris. (See also: USAID.)
Thus, although Antifa appears to be "bravely" hurling themselves against the machine, they are in fact insured against harm by the machine.
But this goes even further into the notion of "overreactions" and "decision dilemmas": in many cases, there are no actual decision dilemmas because the establishment wants its hand to be forced to give more gibs to blacks or implement a hiring freeze on white men. The spectacle of powerful interests bowing to the voice of the unheard is no more real than a puppet handler acquiescing to his puppet. The idea of popular sympathy is a figment of the media. It's no more real, and perhaps even less so, than the support for men in women's sports.
So what's changed this time? The difference is that an explicitly right wing government has taken control and is seeking and destroying the links between the establishment and their foot soldiers. For the first time in a long time, Antifa will have to live out their propaganda in reality and experience what happens when you rage against the machine: the Proud Boy experience. We should overreact and we should crush them. Nobody's going to cry for them this time.
This is the correct analysis. Conservatives are deathly afraid of using power, and this is the fundamental failing that is slowly killing all of us. There is a genuine struggle occurring in the halls of power at the moment which I don't believe is orchestrated. The elites, such as they are, have fractured interests, and are competing for dominance. Considering demographic trends, right now--Trump 2.0--is possibly one of the last opportunities America has to solve this thing semi-peacefully.
The administration needs to go shock and awe after leftists and foreign infiltrators and dismantle their reinforcement networks, because the second Trump is out of power, their backers will start rebuilding them again. If I was in his shoes, I would be doing everything up to--and possibly slightly over--the bounds of the law to destroy them. These riots even give a useful fig leaf for enforcement. It's not like he has to worry about re-election this time, so popularity isn't a concern. Like you said, crush them while you have the chance.
We should overreact and we should crush them. Nobody's going to cry for them this time.
Most people are desperate for someone, anyone to punch the left in the mouth. If Trump won’t do it, the next guy will.
There’s this pathetic attitude, prominent among disaffected lefties roleplaying as conservatives, that the worst possible outcome is the return of any right wing authoritarianism whatsoever. As if mutilating children and rampant degeneracy and the great replacement and creeping communism aren’t sufficient conditions for declaring the nuclear option of fascism - because nothing is ever worth handing real power over to “muh Nazis”.
It’s like the great Norm Macdonald tweet saying the worst part about a Muslim terrorist attacking killing millions of people would be all of the Islamophobia that follows. Hell is already most of the way here, so why are we walking on egg shells? And why are we restraining ourselves out of some misguided, frankly retarded belief that it will magically trigger reciprocity in our enemies? We just saw what they did when they regained power in 2020: ruthless lawfare, illegal imprisonment, open borders, no whites hired, full tranny agenda, the list goes on. So crush these motherfuckers with everything we’ve got while we’ve got it.
Until you start scratching away at their overall philosophy, and they're basically a hard-left blue-tribe liberal who just has one or two opinions that got them excommunicated from their cult.
And yet, without fail, they're make constant excuses for leftist violence while crawling over broken glass to harass and shut-down the idea the right should return in-kind.
The difference is that an explicitly right wing government has taken control and is seeking and destroying the links between the establishment and their foot soldiers.
Honestly, if i didn't know better, I'd say that the establishment set this up so that Trump could push for harder deportation efforts. Thing is, I know that Trump doesn't have that level of influence.
Okay, "over"reacting would be going full McCarthy and arresting everyone in America with known or even suspected ties to left-wing parties. Let's not "over"react, and simply normal-react: Arrest everyone involved in these riots. Kill a couple of them even if they aren't merited of the death penalty. Just like Jan 6th, which the Left has established as standard NOT overreacting. Don't want to be arrested or shot? Don't riot.
what needs to happen is the feds need to come in and arrest all of the violent rioters, especially the people doing the organizing and the people carting in pallets of bricks and rocks. they should also be questioning the photographers who happen to be at the exact right spot at the exact right time to photograph the burning cars.
if it gets to the point where civilians have to fight back themselves, they will ultimately lose to the fed-backed rioters. if they win in the streets, the rioters win in the propaganda war.
Trump is doing the right thing in mobilizing the national guard, but he needs to also be mobilizing the US intelligence agencies. the people behind the scenes need to be held accountable with proper due process.
"Conservatives" have been taking the high road and ceding ground for about a century now, and all it has done is ruin us.
It is literal insanity to keep doing that while hoping the outcome will be different this time.
Why do "conservatives" in power not get ugly and wield power for once? Well, aside from the obvious capture of our institutions by a foreign power, conservatives as a whole are still psychologically abuse victims. They are terrified of being called names and having their "good" standing in society crumble, too sensitive to social pressure, and honestly too docile, too humbled by years of propaganda and abuse to rise up when they need to.
This isn't just America. It's in every western nation.
The vikings used to be unbelievably violent towards non-vikings, and even to each other. Now their descendants cower and whimper at the thought of saying mean words towards a people literally throwing grenades at them.
The Franks that once repelled the muslims under Charles Martell now hide in their homes when those same muslims rampage through Paris.
The Romans who once dominated the known world now can't even stop some Ethiopians in a rowboat.
The Goths, Saxons, and Anglos who managed to conquer most of Europe after the fall of Rome now get prison sentences for insulting their rapists.
The Celts who once ruled the British Isles with an iron fist now get thrown in jail for merely silently praying.
If we do not stop being so god damn polite we are literally going to get ourselves killed. We as a people need to get our heads out of our asses and realize that most of the world only respects force, not manners.
Dom is probably going to remove this for Rule 2 or something, but at this point I'm not seeing a viable, peaceful, political solution to our problems.
I will remind you about why I was dead-wrong about 2020's election. I found out the hard way that:
Rioting, terrorism, and violence UNIFY the Left. They DO NOT divide it. Every place that experienced rioting in 2020 moved Left. The people who tried to complain to the Black National Socialists and White Communists that they were "helping Trump"... were saying that because they were die-hard Biden voters. Not because the violence caused people to support Trump. It just forced Rightists to leave.
The entire point of these riots is NOT to make anyone look bad, but to establish a hierarchy of control within the Left and unify it in violence.
Wrong, wrong, wronger.
The worst thing we can do right now is nothing. Letting the left rampage around unchecked is exactly how they started the 2020 steal.
Crush them, and keep at it until they either capitulate on the whole, or kick off a full blown conflict.
Fighting is not avoidable. Doing it on their terms is avoidable.
It’s intentionally vague. Overreacting is a negative thing but what is overeating when a large group of foreigners seized your countries city and are now destroying it in protest?
It’s like the gay conspiracy shit where some unknown force totally has all the tapes of child rape and stuff and is totally on our side but they can’t release it because it so horrible everything will collapse. So instead you just let the child molesting monster keep running the world?
Civil war is bad so just keep letting your country get taken over by MS13.
What’s this guys early history because half agreeing with the right while trying to get them to divert course to doing nothing while pretending to sound reasonable is some tiny hat stuff
This will never stop until the DOJ goes after the people who are funding and organizing it. Trump made a good start by defunding USAID, but that's just the tip of the iceberg. Hundreds of government agencies, NGOs and charities are laundering money to pay for this chaos. It won't matter how many antifa goons or Mexican gang members get arrested if that money is allowed to keep flowing.
Either people haven't come to grips that the ground-game has changed drastically for alot of opinions that were once forbidden to speak about, or they've fallen for the propaganda and merely think such things are unpopular and considered with disgust, when the opposite is true.
Or, conversely, they're still stuck on taking the 'moral high road' in their deluded drive to think that'll help them win, somehow.
I've been lurking in some reddit forums, and I'm seeing a similar talking point about 'avoiding another Kent State', and I agree. We should avoid another Kent State. Where a bunch of terrorists threatening to blow up buildings and murder people get to repaint themselves as a bunch of peace-loving oh-so-innocent college kids who were just trying to make love, not war, maaaaaaan.
One can only hope that we've wrestled enough information power away from Academia and Journalists that something like that doesn't happen again.
Then again, people seem to have completely forgotten about the June 7th riots, so maybe I'm just not cynical enough.
If Bongino and Patel can get off their ass for a minute, now would be a great time to open RICO investigations into the immigration NGO's and the Socialist organizations that are actively inciting riots.
We don't need to send tanks into LA, but we do need to use this to justify further major criminal operations against the Left, and justify further enforcement actions.
In fact, now would be a great time to start putting enough of the organizers in prison for starting riots, while making space for California Republicans to stick their heads out of the parapet and make political advances locally so they can finally challenge the one party state.
Tbh, that all sounds good, but we might also need to send tanks into LA.
Not really. Most of these people are communists. Even the dude on the bike was a Venezuelan who was rich.
Another rich bourgeoise national socialist screaming about the need for racial revenge against people he believes are inferior.
All these violent protests are attempts by an elite class to manufacture consensus for policies they desire. Wokal Distance understands they are "created, funded, and organized by people with large networks" but he doesn't seem to understand those people were and are in the government.
In the past, violent protests have functioned as a kayfabe or kabuki theater where the establishment funds violent lunatics to agitate for a desired policy, then pretends to be against it. We saw this clearly with the Summer of Love BLM riots when the curtain between the two parties was almost completely torn in half. Tim Walz's wife was endorsing the riots on live TV, and many jurisdictions stood down. Virtually all the rioters got sweetheart deals from sympathetic prosecutors and bail funds, some of them endorsed by people like Kamala Harris. (See also: USAID.)
Thus, although Antifa appears to be "bravely" hurling themselves against the machine, they are in fact insured against harm by the machine.
But this goes even further into the notion of "overreactions" and "decision dilemmas": in many cases, there are no actual decision dilemmas because the establishment wants its hand to be forced to give more gibs to blacks or implement a hiring freeze on white men. The spectacle of powerful interests bowing to the voice of the unheard is no more real than a puppet handler acquiescing to his puppet. The idea of popular sympathy is a figment of the media. It's no more real, and perhaps even less so, than the support for men in women's sports.
So what's changed this time? The difference is that an explicitly right wing government has taken control and is seeking and destroying the links between the establishment and their foot soldiers. For the first time in a long time, Antifa will have to live out their propaganda in reality and experience what happens when you rage against the machine: the Proud Boy experience. We should overreact and we should crush them. Nobody's going to cry for them this time.
This is the correct analysis. Conservatives are deathly afraid of using power, and this is the fundamental failing that is slowly killing all of us. There is a genuine struggle occurring in the halls of power at the moment which I don't believe is orchestrated. The elites, such as they are, have fractured interests, and are competing for dominance. Considering demographic trends, right now--Trump 2.0--is possibly one of the last opportunities America has to solve this thing semi-peacefully.
The administration needs to go shock and awe after leftists and foreign infiltrators and dismantle their reinforcement networks, because the second Trump is out of power, their backers will start rebuilding them again. If I was in his shoes, I would be doing everything up to--and possibly slightly over--the bounds of the law to destroy them. These riots even give a useful fig leaf for enforcement. It's not like he has to worry about re-election this time, so popularity isn't a concern. Like you said, crush them while you have the chance.
Most people are desperate for someone, anyone to punch the left in the mouth. If Trump won’t do it, the next guy will.
There’s this pathetic attitude, prominent among disaffected lefties roleplaying as conservatives, that the worst possible outcome is the return of any right wing authoritarianism whatsoever. As if mutilating children and rampant degeneracy and the great replacement and creeping communism aren’t sufficient conditions for declaring the nuclear option of fascism - because nothing is ever worth handing real power over to “muh Nazis”.
It’s like the great Norm Macdonald tweet saying the worst part about a Muslim terrorist attacking killing millions of people would be all of the Islamophobia that follows. Hell is already most of the way here, so why are we walking on egg shells? And why are we restraining ourselves out of some misguided, frankly retarded belief that it will magically trigger reciprocity in our enemies? We just saw what they did when they regained power in 2020: ruthless lawfare, illegal imprisonment, open borders, no whites hired, full tranny agenda, the list goes on. So crush these motherfuckers with everything we’ve got while we’ve got it.
Or worse, they're roleplaying as a centrist.
Until you start scratching away at their overall philosophy, and they're basically a hard-left blue-tribe liberal who just has one or two opinions that got them excommunicated from their cult.
And yet, without fail, they're make constant excuses for leftist violence while crawling over broken glass to harass and shut-down the idea the right should return in-kind.
Honestly, if i didn't know better, I'd say that the establishment set this up so that Trump could push for harder deportation efforts. Thing is, I know that Trump doesn't have that level of influence.
Would arresting all of those responsible be "overreacting"?
Wokal has really been a disappointment lately. He fell off the "woke right" cliff with Lindsay.
Daily reminder that antifa called the cops on a bunch of amateur musicians lolololololololol
"Over"react.
Okay, "over"reacting would be going full McCarthy and arresting everyone in America with known or even suspected ties to left-wing parties. Let's not "over"react, and simply normal-react: Arrest everyone involved in these riots. Kill a couple of them even if they aren't merited of the death penalty. Just like Jan 6th, which the Left has established as standard NOT overreacting. Don't want to be arrested or shot? Don't riot.
what needs to happen is the feds need to come in and arrest all of the violent rioters, especially the people doing the organizing and the people carting in pallets of bricks and rocks. they should also be questioning the photographers who happen to be at the exact right spot at the exact right time to photograph the burning cars.
if it gets to the point where civilians have to fight back themselves, they will ultimately lose to the fed-backed rioters. if they win in the streets, the rioters win in the propaganda war.
Trump is doing the right thing in mobilizing the national guard, but he needs to also be mobilizing the US intelligence agencies. the people behind the scenes need to be held accountable with proper due process.
"Conservatives" have been taking the high road and ceding ground for about a century now, and all it has done is ruin us.
It is literal insanity to keep doing that while hoping the outcome will be different this time.
Why do "conservatives" in power not get ugly and wield power for once? Well, aside from the obvious capture of our institutions by a foreign power, conservatives as a whole are still psychologically abuse victims. They are terrified of being called names and having their "good" standing in society crumble, too sensitive to social pressure, and honestly too docile, too humbled by years of propaganda and abuse to rise up when they need to.
This isn't just America. It's in every western nation.
The vikings used to be unbelievably violent towards non-vikings, and even to each other. Now their descendants cower and whimper at the thought of saying mean words towards a people literally throwing grenades at them.
The Franks that once repelled the muslims under Charles Martell now hide in their homes when those same muslims rampage through Paris.
The Romans who once dominated the known world now can't even stop some Ethiopians in a rowboat.
The Goths, Saxons, and Anglos who managed to conquer most of Europe after the fall of Rome now get prison sentences for insulting their rapists.
The Celts who once ruled the British Isles with an iron fist now get thrown in jail for merely silently praying.
If we do not stop being so god damn polite we are literally going to get ourselves killed. We as a people need to get our heads out of our asses and realize that most of the world only respects force, not manners.
Dom is probably going to remove this for Rule 2 or something, but at this point I'm not seeing a viable, peaceful, political solution to our problems.
The only way this could be an overreaction is if they nuke LA, and I’m at the point where I think that might be a decent outcome.
I will remind you about why I was dead-wrong about 2020's election. I found out the hard way that:
Rioting, terrorism, and violence UNIFY the Left. They DO NOT divide it. Every place that experienced rioting in 2020 moved Left. The people who tried to complain to the Black National Socialists and White Communists that they were "helping Trump"... were saying that because they were die-hard Biden voters. Not because the violence caused people to support Trump. It just forced Rightists to leave.
The entire point of these riots is NOT to make anyone look bad, but to establish a hierarchy of control within the Left and unify it in violence.