So basically he was was asking for corrupt favors like the swamp creature he is and Trump told him to eat shit. I knew he wasn't to be trusted. His support for the H-1B scam just made it obvious.
There are a ton of MAGA retards who think this is a contrived fight and some kind of 5-D chess to own the RINOs lol
Reminds me of all the leftists who thought Trump gave the order to shoot himself in the ear as part of a psyop to win the election.
No, you don’t pretend to have someone call you a pedophile as part of some brilliant secret strategy. This is just a massive fracturing of Trump’s base. It’s a complete disaster.
And what difference does it really make? The left has successfully activated the judiciary against the executive. Congress has more or less revealed itself to be the real “deep state”. The 2024 election was a pyrrhic cultural victory at best. Nothing is going to change until a lot of people decide to truly cross the rubicon.
This is two manbabies with bad egos airing their dirty laundry in public. There are retards who have to pick sides when the nobility fights (like half the wars in European history), but I don't know how much of a fracturing of the base it will be. I still like both of them and it's kind of like watching mom and dad fight but it's no more important than the bromance was. Unless something substantial comes out like evidence Trump really was an Epstein customer.
Essentially, BOTH are known to sperg out online but be civil in person unless you're a massive cunt. The left will lap it up but in the end, I doubt it'll be anything more than a nothing burger compared to many, like me, calling for more primary challenges for midterms.
If it turns out to be a disaster, it will ultimately be one of Trump's own making. A lot of us were suspicious of Elon, and then there was the H1B shitshow.
He can still salvage it by reversing the H1Bs and the Palantir Cybrpunk dystopian nightmare and blaming those on Elon. He can release substantive info on Epstein instead of playing his base with plan trusting bullshit. Navigating the BBB is a trickier matter though. That has problems beyond Elon.
Trump has to want to do these things though. Does he? We'll find out.
From what I have heard and seen, the mainstream media has been backing Trump and calling everything Elon says as "unsubstantiated claims". Elon managed to do something thought impossible - have the MSM back Trump.
Trump picked Adelman money over Musk money, this has been obvious for months now.
Elon came in with high hopes of getting things done, and mistakenly thought that Republicans would be the ones to do it.
He fell for the longest running con to date: expecting national level Republicans to do anything that would disturb the status quo.
If Elon really wanted to make a difference, he would go scorched earth on the RNC Congressional delegation, both the House and the Senate. Perennial losers like Lindsey Graham and Tom Cornyn should be where Elon places his hate, but he won't.
If Elon really wanted to make a difference, he would go scorched earth on the RNC Congressional delegation, both the House and the Senate. Perennial losers like Lindsey Graham and Tom Cornyn should be where Elon places his hate, but he won't.
I have no idea why Elon doesn't do the obvious and primary these rats. This is the best shot at influencing the Republican party right now. A child could point this out.
So assuming this is true...you knew this THE WHOLE TIME you were sponsoring and working for him, and you only decide to say anything about it NOW after your contract ended and you're starting a grudge match,
There was always a chance Trump was a participant in Epstein's Island fun and games. He is a billionaire after all. But the way he shunned him reads more like he was in on its existence and wanted no part of it. Add in Elon clearly crashing out, and I don't think he's the most reliable source on the matter.
I remember someone who was investigating the Epstein situation said Trump was the most cooperative witness he dealt with. I don't know how much Trump knew but he had nothing to hide, unlike Slick Willy.
Trump was reported to ban Epstein from Mar-A-Largo due to him sexual assaulting a woman. (NY Post)
Here’s Politifact about everything reported to Trump and Epstein in court documents. TLDR: Trump took a few flights and visited Epstein’s New York home but no one reported him having sex with anyone on Epstein’s properties.
Trump certainly doesn't look completely clean based on all the available information we have, but he has a decent amount of evidence in his favor of being so compared to most because he was at least willing to work against Epstein at times.
So either he was certain of being too big for retaliation, or he was clean enough to not be worried about getting caught in the investigations.
Seriously what the fuck does DOGE know about the Epstein Files? Unless this autistic nigger was there too and that's how he knows. I actually would believe that giving how many baby mamas he has and how many women have come out and talked about his super awkward autistic attempts at approaching them for sex.
knows. I actually would believe that giving how many baby mamas he has and how many women have come out and talked about his super awkward autistic attempts at approaching them for sex.
On the other hand, he does have a very, very visible trail of exes that were obviously neither coerced nor underage, so I think “he’s a bit autistic” is, absent other evidence, a more reasonable assumption than “he’s a sinister sex predator.”
dude... i think a monkey with down's could figure out most people in the US government are pedophiles who used epstein's pedophile services.
if you have two braincells to rub together, like that aforementioned monkey, you don't need elon or some other good goy like trump to release any files to figure it out.
People are saying they didn't let it out because it would expose other people as if the government doesn't just redact everything that they show besides the thing they want you to see.
If he was in there in any meaningful way it would have been out. End of story
No, because if anything further about any of the Epstein files is revealed, Bill Clinton will look super guilty, regardless of who else is implicated. We'll never know what's in the Epstein files while Bill is still alive.
It would be far too beneficial to too many people if this was true for it to have not been plastered across every single news outlet for the past decade.
"Elon tweets: @realDonaldTrump is in the Epstein files."
Epstein files: "Epstein tried to get Trump out to the island to diddle kids, but he refused and cut off all ties with Epstein."
...that would be consistent with Elon's statement if he's in the files, but in a good way. Elon is a big fan of careful choosing words to mislead - his whole empire is based on it.
This is a politically naive take. Leaking any specific, scandalizing details from the Epstein files would have done 100x more to legitmize the vast trove of blackmail material and its provenance than it would've done harm to any singular target. Keeping that secret was worth more[.]
My inclination is that this depends so much on the number and height of elites involved in the story. Would it be worth taking a handful of scalps if it potentially destroys your whole party, for example?
What's the point of having blackmail if you're not gonna extort people with it? I fail to see why they couldn't leak Trump-Specific... improprieties in a targeted attack. The fact that they haven't, despite throwing the kitchen sink at him leaves a pretty big negative space impression.
They are literally telling you they refused to release the list because Trump was on it, and they don't hate him that much.
"Yes, we pushed the Steele Dossier, the Russia collusion hoax, the impeachments, the arrests, the mugshots, the assassination, and the Tesla firebombings... but we never wanted to release the Epstein List that proved he was on it. That would destroy the man, his image, his company, and all support he has. We would never do that. We want to bring him down honorably."
To be fair.. I bet Elon Musk has some kinda contact/relation with Epstein as well. I'd assume every billionare has to have met epstein at some point. kinda like how most actresses probably at least came into contact with harvey weinstein even if they aren't involved.
We've reached the point where the mainstream media is defending Trump by calling everything that Musk says as "unsubstantiated claims". I'd never thought I would see the day.
Can we cut off Elon's jeet supply now?
Trump already expanded it another 120K higher for 2026.
It looks as though Elon got cut out somewhere along the way. https://x.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1930705477039530444
So basically he was was asking for corrupt favors like the swamp creature he is and Trump told him to eat shit. I knew he wasn't to be trusted. His support for the H-1B scam just made it obvious.
He should have been kicked in December when Vivek was.
Vivek should have been kicked harder. He could definitely become governor in Ohio, or at least take the GOP nominee spot from someone better.
Absolutely he should have been kicked harder
Hard to imagine him losing. If he wins the primary, he's in.
It's only fitting that the next Governor Jeet made his fortune in a rugpull scheme with his mom of all people
There are a ton of MAGA retards who think this is a contrived fight and some kind of 5-D chess to own the RINOs lol
Reminds me of all the leftists who thought Trump gave the order to shoot himself in the ear as part of a psyop to win the election.
No, you don’t pretend to have someone call you a pedophile as part of some brilliant secret strategy. This is just a massive fracturing of Trump’s base. It’s a complete disaster.
And what difference does it really make? The left has successfully activated the judiciary against the executive. Congress has more or less revealed itself to be the real “deep state”. The 2024 election was a pyrrhic cultural victory at best. Nothing is going to change until a lot of people decide to truly cross the rubicon.
This is two manbabies with bad egos airing their dirty laundry in public. There are retards who have to pick sides when the nobility fights (like half the wars in European history), but I don't know how much of a fracturing of the base it will be. I still like both of them and it's kind of like watching mom and dad fight but it's no more important than the bromance was. Unless something substantial comes out like evidence Trump really was an Epstein customer.
Essentially, BOTH are known to sperg out online but be civil in person unless you're a massive cunt. The left will lap it up but in the end, I doubt it'll be anything more than a nothing burger compared to many, like me, calling for more primary challenges for midterms.
If it turns out to be a disaster, it will ultimately be one of Trump's own making. A lot of us were suspicious of Elon, and then there was the H1B shitshow.
He can still salvage it by reversing the H1Bs and the Palantir Cybrpunk dystopian nightmare and blaming those on Elon. He can release substantive info on Epstein instead of playing his base with plan trusting bullshit. Navigating the BBB is a trickier matter though. That has problems beyond Elon.
Trump has to want to do these things though. Does he? We'll find out.
Media is loving this. Just like they love anyone who has something negative to say about Trump
From what I have heard and seen, the mainstream media has been backing Trump and calling everything Elon says as "unsubstantiated claims". Elon managed to do something thought impossible - have the MSM back Trump.
The reason why the base is split are from the facts you outlined above. This is a lame duck presidency and Elon is frustrated like the rest of us.
Trump picked Adelman money over Musk money, this has been obvious for months now.
Elon came in with high hopes of getting things done, and mistakenly thought that Republicans would be the ones to do it.
He fell for the longest running con to date: expecting national level Republicans to do anything that would disturb the status quo.
If Elon really wanted to make a difference, he would go scorched earth on the RNC Congressional delegation, both the House and the Senate. Perennial losers like Lindsey Graham and Tom Cornyn should be where Elon places his hate, but he won't.
I have no idea why Elon doesn't do the obvious and primary these rats. This is the best shot at influencing the Republican party right now. A child could point this out.
So assuming this is true...you knew this THE WHOLE TIME you were sponsoring and working for him, and you only decide to say anything about it NOW after your contract ended and you're starting a grudge match,
There was always a chance Trump was a participant in Epstein's Island fun and games. He is a billionaire after all. But the way he shunned him reads more like he was in on its existence and wanted no part of it. Add in Elon clearly crashing out, and I don't think he's the most reliable source on the matter.
I remember someone who was investigating the Epstein situation said Trump was the most cooperative witness he dealt with. I don't know how much Trump knew but he had nothing to hide, unlike Slick Willy.
Trump was reported to ban Epstein from Mar-A-Largo due to him sexual assaulting a woman. (NY Post)
Here’s Politifact about everything reported to Trump and Epstein in court documents. TLDR: Trump took a few flights and visited Epstein’s New York home but no one reported him having sex with anyone on Epstein’s properties.
Trump certainly doesn't look completely clean based on all the available information we have, but he has a decent amount of evidence in his favor of being so compared to most because he was at least willing to work against Epstein at times.
So either he was certain of being too big for retaliation, or he was clean enough to not be worried about getting caught in the investigations.
Elon knows fuck all about what's in the Epstein files. He's acting like the spoiled brat he's always been.
He's clearly having an epic meltdown today and is just flinging shit all over the walls.
Seriously what the fuck does DOGE know about the Epstein Files? Unless this autistic nigger was there too and that's how he knows. I actually would believe that giving how many baby mamas he has and how many women have come out and talked about his super awkward autistic attempts at approaching them for sex.
On the other hand, he does have a very, very visible trail of exes that were obviously neither coerced nor underage, so I think “he’s a bit autistic” is, absent other evidence, a more reasonable assumption than “he’s a sinister sex predator.”
Elon is the easiest meal ticket target in the history of the world for any 7/10 slut
Otoh he did overpay tiffany fong to try and sleep with her
dude... i think a monkey with down's could figure out most people in the US government are pedophiles who used epstein's pedophile services.
if you have two braincells to rub together, like that aforementioned monkey, you don't need elon or some other good goy like trump to release any files to figure it out.
I mean, Trump didn't lie about being a pro gamer or he has called someone a pedophile for refusing his help
Very true he's already accused someone of being a pedophile before for telling him no. Seems like this is just round two.
What makes you say that?
If there was anything on Trump it would have already been leaked to stop him from getting elected.
People are saying they didn't let it out because it would expose other people as if the government doesn't just redact everything that they show besides the thing they want you to see.
If he was in there in any meaningful way it would have been out. End of story
No, because if anything further about any of the Epstein files is revealed, Bill Clinton will look super guilty, regardless of who else is implicated. We'll never know what's in the Epstein files while Bill is still alive.
It would be far too beneficial to too many people if this was true for it to have not been plastered across every single news outlet for the past decade.
"Elon tweets: @realDonaldTrump is in the Epstein files."
Epstein files: "Epstein tried to get Trump out to the island to diddle kids, but he refused and cut off all ties with Epstein."
...that would be consistent with Elon's statement if he's in the files, but in a good way. Elon is a big fan of careful choosing words to mislead - his whole empire is based on it.
I'm out of my depth with the whole Epstein saga and timing, so I am somewhat blindly relaying the argument I saw one fellow make against this point:
https://xcancel.com/treblewoe/status/1930714727853838697
My inclination is that this depends so much on the number and height of elites involved in the story. Would it be worth taking a handful of scalps if it potentially destroys your whole party, for example?
What's the point of having blackmail if you're not gonna extort people with it? I fail to see why they couldn't leak Trump-Specific... improprieties in a targeted attack. The fact that they haven't, despite throwing the kitchen sink at him leaves a pretty big negative space impression.
https://i.imgur.com/AXQ0Vkm.jpeg
They are literally telling you they refused to release the list because Trump was on it, and they don't hate him that much.
To be fair.. I bet Elon Musk has some kinda contact/relation with Epstein as well. I'd assume every billionare has to have met epstein at some point. kinda like how most actresses probably at least came into contact with harvey weinstein even if they aren't involved.
His contact was Maxwell photobombed him that one time.
Heh.
It would kind of explain the Israel First policies of this administration...
Trump is not going to cut off the jeets because he's an old business boomer. Same reason he won't go after all the employers of illegals.
Wether it's true or not the government should be torn asunder and remade in the image of it's infancy.
They appear to have made up somewhat. Embarrassing doing this and harming the administration
We've reached the point where the mainstream media is defending Trump by calling everything that Musk says as "unsubstantiated claims". I'd never thought I would see the day.
what is this distraction for?
I'm still wondering why anyone thinks any of this retarded drama matters.