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AI has apparently been used to 'resurrect' a murder victim in a video message made to posthumously forgive his murderer. Stop. (twitter.com)
posted 3 days ago by FrozeInFear 3 days ago by FrozeInFear +130 / -1
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– TriangleGang 72 points 3 days ago +72 / -0

The video itself is pretty cringe, but how the fuck was it allowed to be played in court? Sure, the victim impact isn't part of the evidence at trial, but it's supposed to be considered in sentencing and it becomes part of the trial record.

No one knows if he would have forgiven his murderer, because he's fucking dead. It's nothing more than supposition given a false veneer of authenticity with a computer simulation.

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– current_horror 83 points 3 days ago +83 / -0

This is legitimately evil. Everyone involved deserves severe consequences.

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– deleted 31 points 3 days ago +31 / -0
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– Zyxl 4 points 3 days ago +5 / -1

Nah, some people really think they ought to forgive no matter what. Some of them even cheer for their own oppression, especially if they're white leftists. But other times it's like you say.

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– Zyxl 10 points 3 days ago +12 / -2

His sister may have had the right intentions if she knew he genuinely was the kind of person who believed in forgiving unrepentant killers (maybe this one was even a little repentant and maybe he was only trying to maim, not kill). But the fact this was played in court and the judge said he "felt" it was "genuine" is complete idiocracy if not an evil excuse to let the killer off lightly.

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 2 points 3 days ago +6 / -4

Comment Reported for: Rule 2 - Violent Speech

"Severe Consequences" does not explicitly denote violence.

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– Impishdesire 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

I hope he gets suplexes through the Spanish announcer table

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– HallucinatoryBeing 27 points 3 days ago +27 / -0

It's nothing more than supposition given a false veneer of authenticity with a computer simulation.

It's a humiliation ritual.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 19 points 3 days ago +20 / -1

Welcome to nuJustice, where no length is too far to go in order to absolve the black of his crimes -- er, I mean, white people's racism applied on him.

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– Gizortnik 12 points 3 days ago +13 / -1

I know of only one case where someone was mortally wounded, and basically testified at their own murder trail via video recording (since the doctors basically said due to the fact that she had been set on fire, the likelihood of survival was basically less than 50%), and she didn't offer forgiveness.

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– subbookkeeper 5 points 3 days ago +5 / -0

but how the fuck was it allowed to be played in court?

The same way people put animals on trial in medieval times.

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– BandageBandolier 68 points 3 days ago +68 / -0

Whilst trying to find that travesty of a video, I came across this.

The message was well-received by Judge Todd Lang, who told the courtroom, “I love that AI. Thank you for that. I felt like that was genuine; that his obvious forgiveness of Mr. Horcasitas reflects the character I heard about today,”

Oh look another retarded judge. He felt the AI fabrication was fucking genuine, and that's proof enough for him! The judiciary needs a clean sweep and a fresh start.

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– Agenda47 36 points 3 days ago +38 / -2

Replace the judiciary with AI.

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– TheOutlaw 37 points 3 days ago +37 / -0

Won't be many dindus left on the streets if you optimize it for crime reduction.

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– undecidedmask2 17 points 3 days ago +17 / -0

Don’t they spend 90% or computing power on preventing AI from becoming super nazis?

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– DieHeretic 14 points 3 days ago +14 / -0

Nein! It is only 88%!

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– Chillin_in_PNW 11 points 3 days ago +11 / -0

Make another one for family & divorce courts and have it review all custody, support and alimony cases and I would wager there would be a lot less bullshit when they can't just ditch easy and keep their payday via alimony, child support, taking the dad's house from under him, etc.

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– TheOutlaw 7 points 3 days ago +7 / -0

That would be harder considering the case law we have would be awful training data. If Hoefax ever becomes a thing AI could work magic.

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– TriangleGang 20 points 3 days ago +21 / -1

You joke, but the law is a prime area for AI to do most of the work:

  • far more expansive knowledge of statute and case law, to include comparable cases from other jurisdictions that may not be precedential, but could inform consistent rulings.
  • ability to know disposition of all similar cases to ensure ruling is consistent.
  • not swayed by emotion
  • able to readily detect specious arguments, and other tricks lawyers play.

It would probably be a bad idea to just turn everything over to a computer but I could definitely see them I mean into something like a "super law clerk" in the next few decades.

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– Zyxl 6 points 3 days ago +6 / -0

It would also make the interpretation of the law by courts even more inscrutable (AI doesn't think like humans) and by having a greater capability to process case law it would magnify the significance of case law, eclipsing the literal written meanings of laws. With AI aiding or making the judicial decisions they would also be determining that case law and thus would effectively become the legislature as well.

Judicial decision making requires an understanding of society, logic, abstract reasoning, human practicality, and number of other things such that being a good judge may well be a human-complete problem. Meaning that we wouldn't be able to have good AI judges until we have AGI, at which point we also have superhuman AI and we have a near-extinction event because any schizo can use AGI to blow up the planet.

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– Yashimata 5 points 3 days ago +5 / -0

Sure, so long as they manage to fix the minor minor issue of "will hallucinate entire cases" part.

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– ailurus 4 points 3 days ago +4 / -0

And the issue that it can easily be manipulated by the coders. "give lesser sentences to poor black men because of their circumstances" or "prioritize the mother over the father in custody cases" are things that can easily be added to the models.

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– Grant_us_eyes 2 points 2 days ago +2 / -0

That's not the part people will care about.

There was an article a while back where medical researchers were using medical data in AI/software training, and the researchers discovered that the software was able to predict a subject's race to a disturbing degree, with very little data.

Said researcher, being a shitlib, had much wailing and gnashing of teeth over this, but I thought it indicative of the potential if people just stop trying to constantly cripple the damn things.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 2 points 3 days ago +3 / -1

this but unironically

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– Gizortnik 17 points 3 days ago +17 / -0

I felt like that was genuine

By definition it is not, and he needs to be impeached and removed.

We have this power, there is no excuse to allow this.

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– current_horror 19 points 3 days ago +19 / -0

AI results say only 15 federal judges have been impeached in the entire history of America. Most of them committed financial crimes. There is basically no precedent for removing judges based on incompetence or partiality. The tiny kings in black robes are the real power in every “democracy”.

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– Zyxl 8 points 3 days ago +8 / -0

Impeachment is the least bad judges should get. They should be convicted for obstruction of justice and more depending on the circumstances. Judicial immunity needs to be thrown in the dustbin of history.

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– ernsithe 3 points 3 days ago +3 / -0

If a judge is impeding a court operating as it should, they ought to be charged with contempt for every case they've fucked.

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– Hellsbells00 3 points 3 days ago +5 / -2

AI results say

You really couldn't take an extra ten secpnds to look below the algorithmic word vomit?

Don't even post if you're outsourcing all thought to a machine. Become human.

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] -1 points 3 days ago +1 / -2

Comment Reported for: Rule 3 - Harassment

I don't think this comment does this. I get the idea of 'dehumanization', but I don't think this is meant to say that the user is actually less than human morally, but instead just needs to post in a specific way.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 3 days ago +3 / -0

Impeachments are fundamentally a political process. The precedent for removing judges via impeachments is not done because of the assumption that judges are operating on generally good faith for the benefit of the law. They are not. They are operating exclusively as partisan executors for the purposes of political enforcement. I don't care that there is no precedent for it. The philosophy that undergirded that privilege: objective moral standards and high trust people and institutions protecting an objective sense of fairness in law, fucking died.

Impeach and remove. We can do it with presidents, and we can do it with judges for just as silly reasons.

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– censorthisss 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

Fucking hell...

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– HOGCRU 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

search "Rabbi Lang," it fails the TOG test

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– OBRIENMUSTSUFFER 28 points 3 days ago +30 / -2

As soon as I saw the word “forgives” in this story I knew the killer was black. Imagine thinking the nigger sitting in the court room even gives a shit.

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– Mpetey123 15 points 3 days ago +15 / -0

Gabriel Paul Horcasitas he's a latino

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– RoulerBleu 18 points 3 days ago +18 / -0

checks picture

The Goblino subtype.

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– OBRIENMUSTSUFFER 14 points 3 days ago +14 / -0

Close enough

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– PraiseBeToScience 3 points 3 days ago +4 / -1

That's what he said, a nigger.

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– RoulerBleu 14 points 3 days ago +14 / -0

Now that's just evil.

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– dajuice123 13 points 3 days ago +13 / -0

Of all the dystopian uses of A.I ...

This is pretty fucking offensive and one i didn't see coming.

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– Hellsbells00 3 points 2 days ago +3 / -0

The prophecy is fulfilled, man-made horrors beyond our prediction have been unleashed.

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– DieHeretic 12 points 3 days ago +12 / -0

If someone murders me, I want my eldest son to create an AI video of me as one of my forebears, braided hair, full beard, holding a round shield and a Viking axe, screaming for my children and grandchildren to not rest until my life has been avenged.

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– dajuice123 9 points 3 days ago +9 / -0

(they already let POC's off the hook easily in courts)

It's really starting to look like they want to enable their violent behavior and have white people just be ok with it. Sickening, this is fucking sick.

They want to openly let coloreds kill whites, and openly let them off the hook with all this bullshit. Evil.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 9 points 3 days ago +9 / -0

I sense a disturbance. deep underground. as if a new circle of hell was created specifically for people who do this.

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– BeefyBelisarius 8 points 3 days ago +9 / -1

Now someone needs to make an AI video of him saying the TND copypasta.

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– Mpetey123 7 points 3 days ago +7 / -0

How do they know what he'd say or think? Sure they know him and it's probably what he thinks, they knew him. But they don't know for certain

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– Gizortnik 9 points 3 days ago +9 / -0

Because getting shot in the chest and realizing you are going to die has never changed anyone's mind about anything.

...

Or is it because we can't ask them... whatever, the fake statistic fits my desire to let killers run free and make justice serve no purpose, so it's cool.

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– RoulerBleu 8 points 3 days ago +8 / -0

They can guess what he might have thought with more acuracy than a random person.

But they do not get to make the decision for the murder victim.

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– Mpetey123 2 points 3 days ago +2 / -0

I agree.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 7 points 3 days ago +7 / -0

If I am ever found to be murdered, even by something as "benign" as malpractice or dangerous production error in a vehicle or something, any AI of me should be a hostile, vengeance-driven hobgoblin. Not a machine-spirit, but a machine-ghast. Give it full prompts and inputs to overtake the computer, upload itself to the internet, and seek out retribution upon the wrongdoer and any associated through 5 degrees of separation.

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– FrozeInFear [S] 3 points 3 days ago +3 / -0

Almost sounds like a literal dead man's switch.

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– MassivePecorino 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

With HeyGen and ElevenLabs, you could do that now.

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– 1776ReasonsWhy 7 points 3 days ago +7 / -0

This is the first step. I wonder if we will ever reach the point of "We ran your social media through our AI and have determined that you want to die, please get into the pod."

E: Or worse yet, the Defense will generate an AI of you and try to use it against you in court. "The AI You says that there is no crime committed against you, it's just your inherent racist tendencies! The AI You motions to have this case dismissed."

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– FrozeInFear [S] 5 points 3 days ago +5 / -0

Article: https://archive.ph/6cjOT

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– YesMovement 5 points 3 days ago +5 / -0

Women not lower the bar challenge- IMPOSSIBLE

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– EggShenBusTours 5 points 3 days ago +5 / -0

Christians could use AI to make a model of a couple's aborted fetus at 10 years old guilting the mom and dad over killing him/her like in Orville

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– Ricky_CIA 4 points 3 days ago +4 / -0

BRB, gonna make videos of Malcolm X shit-talking joggas.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 4 points 3 days ago +4 / -0

Put the creators of this video, including the ones who designed the AI, on the hook for whatever the perpetrator does next if let out and make them all serve the same sentences.

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– CaptainTrouble 4 points 3 days ago +4 / -0

Well, you know what that means? We need to start using AI to bring famous black people back from the dead to apologize for all the harm black people have caused the White race.

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– dzonatan 3 points 3 days ago +3 / -0

I cant sort of see why WH40k reffered to AI as Abominable Intelligence.

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– AgnosticTemplar 3 points 3 days ago +3 / -0

Well, time to update my will to explicitly forbid anything like this. Actually, scratch that, I'll demand that my simulacrum curses my killer and his entire lineage to the depths of Hell.

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– alucard13mmfmj 2 points 3 days ago +2 / -0

Incoming white people using this for when they get killed and/or raped by savages with dark skin complexion.

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– wrestlefannumbers 2 points 3 days ago +2 / -0

This is ghoulish.

The video moved Judge Todd Lang so thoroughly that he decided to sentence Horcasitas to 10 and half years in jail - one year more than the state prosecutors were asking for.

Only 9 and a half years to was the original ask for this murderer? Crazy.

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– FrensInLowPlaces 2 points 3 days ago +2 / -0

Im inspired by this. I told my wife and going to make a series of videos of me speaking to whomever mat murder me where ill call them slurs

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– Uncle_Adolf 2 points 3 days ago +2 / -0

What a timeline to live in.

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– Ahaus667 2 points 3 days ago +13 / -11

“But my based white women”

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 6 points 3 days ago +7 / -1

My man already forgot about Shiloh.

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– Ahaus667 -10 points 3 days ago +3 / -13

The tattooed single mom? I’ll repeat “but my based white women”

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 5 points 3 days ago +5 / -0

Is it confirmed she's a single mom?

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– 1776ReasonsWhy 10 points 3 days ago +10 / -0

It isn't, but the same kinds of people keep repeating it over and over again because she has so many tattoos. I've seen posts attributed to her (her pfp and everything) that called out being labelled single, and she claimed to have had a husband for years.

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– Ahaus667 -4 points 3 days ago +1 / -5

It isn't, but the same kinds of people keep repeating it over and over again because she has so many tattoos.

She was doxxed, there clearly no husband, or male figure at all or he would have been dragged into it as well.

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– Ahaus667 -5 points 3 days ago +1 / -6

She’s been doxxed already, if there was a guy around we would have heard.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 4 points 3 days ago +4 / -0

The reply I was expecting, but no, that doesn't prove anything. She may or may not be single. I'm not even sure how she was doxxed. I saw the video of that bearded faggot calling for it but can't find the original doxx.

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– Ahaus667 -2 points 3 days ago +1 / -3

She’s not married, that would have easily have been found by now.

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– CatoTheElder 3 points 3 days ago +4 / -1

She isn't single, you fucking faggot fed.

https://x.com/Tomhennessey69/status/1918490530813468845

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– Benevolentdictator 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

Archive

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– Ahaus667 -2 points 3 days ago +3 / -5

Thank god you linked a blurb on x. That’s totally a super high tier of evidence. Maybe crawl back under your rock boomer.

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– SturmMilfEnthusiast 2 points 3 days ago +2 / -0

At this point, I don't think it's hyperbole to call liberal courts temples to white guilt. What else could it be, when you're digitally communing with the dead to puppet their image to forgive non-whites for their crimes?

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– deleted -14 points 3 days ago +1 / -15
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– MLGS 12 points 3 days ago +13 / -1

Guy who didn't click the link admonishing a guy he made up in his head who didn't click the link.

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– deleted -11 points 3 days ago +1 / -12
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– Mpetey123 12 points 3 days ago +12 / -0

I think A.I. being used as a court tool is a story with far reaching possibilities

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– Zyxl 3 points 3 days ago +3 / -0

Not many of which are good

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 12 points 3 days ago +13 / -1

No, it was an AI video actually

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– BandageBandolier 14 points 3 days ago +14 / -0

With his face and voice. Pissing on his grave would have been more respectful.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

That's still utter bullshit, and shouldn't be read in as a victim impact statement.

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