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Kyiv Independent, funded by USAID in 2022 and 2023, posts video claiming that Donald Trump is a Russian asset (www.youtube.com)
posted 76 days ago by AntonioOfVenice 76 days ago by AntonioOfVenice +82 / -1
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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 24 points 76 days ago +24 / -0

Source for claim in title is an article in which it admitted:

The Kyiv Independent clarified that its own operations were not affected by the U.S. aid freeze, as it no longer receives U.S. taxpayer-funded grants. While it previously benefited from such support in 2022 and 2023, the outlet now sustains itself primarily through small monthly donations from its community.

Question: why is the 'Kyiv' [sic] 'Independent' [sic] creating English-language videos? To ask the question is to answer it.

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– Gizortnik 7 points 76 days ago +7 / -0

I would be less mad at Ukraine if they weren't stealing their own weapons funding ... during a war

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 2 points 76 days ago +2 / -0

I'd be more mad if Ukraine (1) were actually a real country and (2) wasn't run by the Western deep state.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 76 days ago +3 / -0

Ukraine's a real country.

That is the only challengeable point in your sentence.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 2 points 76 days ago +2 / -0

Doesn't look real to me. Look at any map in 1990. Do you see any state called 'Ukraine' there? Those lands were just Russia, same as they had been for 200 years, and the people have always been called 'Little Russians'.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 76 days ago +2 / -0

Russia likes absorbing it's neighbors. Ask Poland. Most of those countries have ethnic groups that founded their nations. The Ukranians are Kyievan Rus that, in many cases, have lived outside the control of Russia; whether it's the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, or portions of the Ottoman Empire, or Austro-Hungarian Empire.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 3 points 76 days ago +3 / -0

Russia likes absorbing it's neighbors. Ask Poland.

Poland was an actual state. Ukraine never was. And of course, Poland was partitioned by three countries, only one of which was Russia.

Most of those countries have ethnic groups that founded their nations. The Ukranians are Kyievan Rus

Kievan Rus was founded by Vikings, who in any case first founded Novgorod, which is in Russia. 'Ukrainians' are certainly not Kievan Rus. In fact, the heart of the supposed Ukrainian nation is the parts of the land that were ethnically cleansed of Poles after WW2. It's totally fake.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 76 days ago +2 / -0

That argument would also re-iterate that Latvia, Estonia, and Finland aren't real states either. They are, because their people established them.

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– SuurSuomi39_II 5 points 76 days ago +5 / -0

Question: why is the 'Kyiv' [sic] 'Independent' [sic] creating English-language videos?

Odd lack of any Ukrainian accent in the reporters and analysists, they just have casual American and British accents, so much for Kiev's ''independence''.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 20 points 76 days ago +20 / -0

TRUMP BOUGHT TVs FROM A RUSSIAN FRONT COMPANY! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!!

None of these claims were even touched by Steele or Mueller and they had to manufacture the gayest plan in history to pin the Russia connection on George Papadopolous, so I can't even fathom the realm of bullshit this guy is operating in.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 76 days ago +4 / -0

THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN

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– SoctaticMethod1 18 points 76 days ago +18 / -0

So.....this gets Trump providing aid to Ukraine how?

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– cccpneveragain 12 points 76 days ago +12 / -0

Guys this just in, I've confirmed it he's a Russian agent. In 1969 Trump was seen at a bar ordering a vodka tonic and the bartender used Russian vodka!

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– SophiesBoyfriend 7 points 76 days ago +7 / -0

It goes further- the US senate confirmed all his picks. Are our senators russian agents too?

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 4 points 76 days ago +4 / -0

And the American people elected him.

All Russian BOTS.

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– YouAreAPirate 5 points 76 days ago +5 / -0

*Kiev

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 4 points 76 days ago +4 / -0

They just moved from "Kiev" to "Kyiv" on a dime when it suited them, the same way they started calling transgenderism 'gender-affirming care'.

I considered adding a 'sic' in the title, but decided against polluting the title.

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– YouAreAPirate 1 point 75 days ago +1 / -0

They're all unironic bots. No introspection, no emotions, no thoughts, no questions, just repeat talking points and repeat next talking points. I'm gonna keep calling it Kiev and I hope it burns whatever tiny part of human inside of them that they haven't snuffed out.

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– deleted 1 point 76 days ago +1 / -0

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